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Post by anniefb on Aug 15, 2017 19:39:47 GMT
American here -- Aaron and Erin are homonyms in my book. They are definitely not in Australia but at least that explains why I had trouble understanding people's names. Not in New Zealand either. |
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Post by anonrefugee on Aug 15, 2017 20:11:15 GMT
They are definitely not in Australia but at least that explains why I had trouble understanding people's names. Not in New Zealand either. once again- learn something from the Peas! |
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Post by riversong1963 on Aug 15, 2017 21:36:31 GMT
Where I am, Aaron is pronounced with a short "a" as in hat. Erin is pronounced with a short "e" as in nest. What's funny to me is that my niece, also born and raised in the Bronx, but who now lives in PA, is married to a man named Aaron. And she pronounces it Airin. She has assimilated.  |
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Post by joblackford on Aug 15, 2017 23:30:17 GMT
I've lived in MN my whole life (44 yrs), but about half the time was northern MN next to the Canadian border. And the last half in Southern Minnesota. I know I picked up accents from both places. My ex-husband's step dad is Don. And his sister is Dawn. To me they are the exact same word. Pronounced the exact same. My family would tease me about saying them wrong. They grew up in the same state I did, I never heard them say it different.  This is a very interesting discussion. Ferry, fairy, very, Mary, merry, etc all sound the same to me too. Is it Dahh-n instead of the O in Don sounding like the one in Dot? See comment about math-whiz lacking skills above, it applies here! I pronounce Dawn to rhyme with the name Sean/Shaun (or my pronunciation of shorn!) - all the same "au" sound. Whereas Don rhymes with gone/on. English around the world is very messed up/wonderful/flexible/confusing! |
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Post by refugeepea on Aug 16, 2017 1:54:49 GMT
I'm still confused on Shimelle's name I thought it was Shim-L.  It has been a while since I've seen her videos. |
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Post by warrior1991 on Aug 16, 2017 12:49:56 GMT
hhmm. . . . Dawn, Sean, Don, on, and gone all sound the same to me. Well, they do when I say them.  |
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Post by melanell on Aug 17, 2017 0:41:34 GMT
joblackford "Ferry" and "fairy" are pronounced the same, at least they are in my world. 😁 Same here. As are "Erin & Aaron"---exactly the same. Don & Dawn are darn close if not the same as well. I come from an area where people tend to speak a little quickly and so we can be lazy about our letters. We drop consonants and we're pretty wishy washy about vowels. We substitute vowel sounds or clip them entirely. For instance, in a regular day to day conversation, I'd probably say something like "Airn & Airn", I wouldn't really do a good job of enunciating both syllables in either name. If I work at it, I can put the "aww" in Dawn. But normally it'd be Don & Don. I once knew a guy named Ron and I thought it was short for Ronald for years & years, and finally I found out it was short for Aaron & I was shocked, because I never hear that name pronounced to sound like "Ron" at the end at all. If someone says both syllables, it still sounds like Air-in. Turns out he started the nicknames himself based only on spelling, not sound, and he did it because he was tired of people confusing his name with "Erin". Save |
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Post by melanell on Aug 17, 2017 0:46:44 GMT
joblackford "Ferry" and "fairy" are pronounced the same, at least they are in my world. 😁 I pronounce them differently. Fairy has a slightly longer more open vowel and rhymes with Mary (as I say it). Ferry rhymes with very. To me they are all the same---fairy, ferry, very, marry, Mary, merry, hairy, Carrie, cherry, Larry, Terri, berry, dairy, sherry, etc.--all rhyme. Married rhymes with harried, carried, & varied. Save |
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Post by melanell on Aug 17, 2017 0:53:09 GMT
Where I am, Aaron is pronounced with a short "a" as in hat. I'm sitting here trying to say this and it's like I can't even get my mouth to move that way, LOL! I think I don't use nay words where that type of "a" comes before an "r". Because just trying to say the "ar" part of your description of "Aaron" is stumping me. I keep trying, but only "air" comes out of my mouth. Save |
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Post by artbabe on Aug 17, 2017 15:02:29 GMT
Have lived my whole life in Ohio.
Merry, Mary, Marry, Berry, Bury, Barry, Hairy, Harry, Ferry, Fairy, Carry, Carrie - all the same
Erin and Aaron - the same
Don and Dawn - slightly different, but very close.
I think it is interesting that the other people who said that were from Southern California. I'm a long way from there.
Wow. Evidently my speech is much more boring than most English speakers.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 17, 2017 15:46:15 GMT
joblackford "Ferry" and "fairy" are pronounced the same, at least they are in my world. 😁 RIGHT?! Crazy old bat, she was. I guess in Scotland they pronounce them with more distinction between them... I remember it very distinctly, even though it happened when I was about 8 yo, because I pointed at the harbor and said "there's a ferry!" and she thought I was pointing out a fairy... ?! I was so confused because I had no idea what she thought I meant because DUH, I was pointing at a boat and I said ferry, albeit with a longer emphasis on the vowels. I didn't even realize she was talking about fairies... because who the heck points at a harbor and says "look, there's a fairy!" I guess I can hear/pronounce a very slight difference now. Has she seen a real fairy? Not a mistake I would make. I even own the dog breed that was said to have transported fairies through the woods and nope, still haven't seen a fairy. He's a little wide though, don't know how a fairy could actually ride on one. |
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 17, 2017 15:47:47 GMT
To me they sound like half and glasses so I would assume, as others have suggested, it is her Anglicising her accent. I will say there are American pronunciations that sound completely different to me than they do to an American - the name Aaron springs to mind as the most obvious example, where what I hear sounds like the female name Erin. American here -- Aaron and Erin are homonyms in my book. Have you seen the Key and Peele sketch? Not at all the same! Warning: Cussing and mayhem on the video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7FixvoKBw |
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Post by Linda on Aug 17, 2017 16:00:30 GMT
Have lived my whole life in Ohio. Merry, Mary, Marry, Berry, Bury, Barry, Hairy, Harry, Ferry, Fairy, Carry, Carrie - all the same Erin and Aaron - the same Don and Dawn - slightly different, but very close. I think it is interesting that the other people who said that were from Southern California. I'm a long way from there. Wow. Evidently my speech is much more boring than most English speakers. most of America, except parts of the Northeast, have merged the vowels sounds so that there isn't a distinction in pronunciation between Mary, merry, and marry. I grew up in England and then in New England so I actually DO pronounce all three differently. DH who was raised in New England does as well and so does my oldest. My girls who've been raised in Florida - do not. Erin and Aaron - I'm the only one in my family who pronounces those differently - Eh-rin vs Aah-run. Don and Dawn - I also pronounce differently ON vs ORN. We had a go-around with the speech therapist here because she wasn't going to correct my youngest on dat, dis, dose (that, this, those) because that's a dialect....sure, it might be but it's not OUR dialect and I would like her to be able to pronounce them correctly, lol. |
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Post by joblackford on Aug 18, 2017 17:31:35 GMT
Married rhymes with harried, carried, & varied. Married, harried, carried are all the same vowel sound to me, but for some reason varied is different in my accent!  |
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Post by joblackford on Aug 18, 2017 17:35:48 GMT
950nancy I love the A-A-Ron sketch. We have a lot of fun with that joke in our house. But I also have to ask - what dog breed carries fairies around?! I want one!
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Post by anniefb on Aug 18, 2017 17:41:17 GMT
Married rhymes with harried, carried, & varied. ![:)]() Married, harried, carried are all the same vowel sound to me, but for some reason varied is different in my accent! Yep, same here back in New Zillund where unglish is rilly choice  SaveSaveSaveSave |
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Post by caangel on Aug 18, 2017 19:25:06 GMT
Have lived my whole life in Ohio. Merry, Mary, Marry, Berry, Bury, Barry, Hairy, Harry, Ferry, Fairy, Carry, Carrie - all the same Erin and Aaron - the same Don and Dawn - slightly different, but very close. I think it is interesting that the other people who said that were from Southern California. I'm a long way from there. Wow. Evidently my speech is much more boring than most English speakers. most of America, except parts of the Northeast, have merged the vowels sounds so that there isn't a distinction in pronunciation between Mary, merry, and marry. I grew up in England and then in New England so I actually DO pronounce all three differently. DH who was raised in New England does as well and so does my oldest. My girls who've been raised in Florida - do not. Erin and Aaron - I'm the only one in my family who pronounces those differently - Eh-rin vs Aah-run. Don and Dawn - I also pronounce differently ON vs ORN. We had a go-around with the speech therapist here because she wasn't going to correct my youngest on dat, dis, dose (that, this, those) because that's a dialect....sure, it might be but it's not OUR dialect and I would like her to be able to pronounce them correctly, lol. I had a student born and raised in So Cal and I was concerned about her speech. Her mom told me not to worry it was just a Boston accent. Never mind that she had never been to Boston nor around anyone with that accent. |
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Post by Linda on Aug 18, 2017 20:08:09 GMT
I had a student born and raised in So Cal and I was concerned about her speech. Her mom told me not to worry it was just a Boston accent. Never mind that she had never been to Boston nor around anyone with that accent. wierd - poor kid my middle child was 8 when we moved one county north in Florida and at her first Brownie meeting, one of the mums went up to DH and said "I just love her accent - it's SO exotic! Where did you move from?"....a small town about 30 minutes south of here. BUT she had been homeschooled by me up to then and I have a non-Florida accent (mix of English and southern New England) which probably explained DD's 'accent' |
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Post by pancakes on Aug 18, 2017 20:20:57 GMT
American here -- Aaron and Erin are homonyms in my book. Have you seen the Key and Peele sketch? Not at all the same! Warning: Cussing and mayhem on the video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7FixvoKBwA-a-ron? haha, I say, "You done f-ed up, A-a-ron" all the time! |
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 18, 2017 21:47:24 GMT
But I also have to ask - what dog breed carries fairies around?! I want one!  |
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Post by joblackford on Aug 18, 2017 23:49:08 GMT
950nancy haha, I guess I should have looked at your profile picture... duh! That's so cool! I'm sort of fascinated by corgis since I saw a social media post showing all kinds of corgi mixed breeds, all with their delightfully short legs. Someone explained that corgis have a form of dwarfism, which I guess they transmit to their offspring no matter what breed they're crossed with. There are some very cool corgi combos out there. ETA: mentalfloss.com/article/87683/ancient-connection-between-corgis-and-fairies --the last paragraphs are the best. And the internet also tells me that corgis also pulled fairy carts and coaches, so maybe your pup could do the job after all 
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 19, 2017 0:50:19 GMT
950nancy haha, I guess I should have looked at your profile picture... duh! That's so cool! I'm sort of fascinated by corgis since I saw a social media post showing all kinds of corgi mixed breeds, all with their delightfully short legs. Someone explained that corgis have a form of dwarfism, which I guess they transmit to their offspring no matter what breed they're crossed with. There are some very cool corgi combos out there. ETA: mentalfloss.com/article/87683/ancient-connection-between-corgis-and-fairies --the last paragraphs are the best. And the internet also tells me that corgis also pulled fairy carts and coaches, so maybe your pup could do the job after all He's a typical corgi and much more into himself than service for others! We can't go for walks without people yelling "corgi!" Must be nice to have the world at your feet. |
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Post by joblackford on Aug 19, 2017 1:54:23 GMT
950nancy haha, I guess I should have looked at your profile picture... duh! That's so cool! I'm sort of fascinated by corgis since I saw a social media post showing all kinds of corgi mixed breeds, all with their delightfully short legs. Someone explained that corgis have a form of dwarfism, which I guess they transmit to their offspring no matter what breed they're crossed with. There are some very cool corgi combos out there. ETA: mentalfloss.com/article/87683/ancient-connection-between-corgis-and-fairies --the last paragraphs are the best. And the internet also tells me that corgis also pulled fairy carts and coaches, so maybe your pup could do the job after all He's a typical corgi and much more into himself than service for others! We can't go for walks without people yelling "corgi!" Must be nice to have the world at your feet. haha, I know what you mean. I had a pug until recently. Another breed that gets a lot of attention, and that thinks they're the center of the universe. And usually are... Pugs were breed to keep Chinese monks company and later to warm the laps of European royalty. They excel at their jobs of following and sleeping and eating. |
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