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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 17:35:50 GMT
But, now that it affects THEM (the only time many on the right give a flying f(#*$ about anything), will they make the same demands when it comes time to help those affected by this storm? www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-25/hurricane-harvey-puts-cruz-cornyn-in-political-bind-over-aid"With Hurricane Harvey set to be the most damaging storm to hit the U.S. in a dozen years, Congress may be called upon to provide billions in extra storm relief this fall to help with the recovery. That could put Texas Republican Senators John Cornyn and Ted Cruz-- and Vice President Mike Pence -- in a political bind, forcing them to choose between quick aid and their own past demands for spending cuts to offset emergency disaster funds. The Federal Emergency Management Agency disaster relief fund had just $3.8 billion as of July 31, with most of that set to be spent by the end of September. The House has proposed adding $6.8 billion in the fiscal year that starts Oct. 1. Those funds are likely insufficient. A report Friday from CoreLogic estimated that Hurricane Harvey would cause $39.6 billion of damage alone to homes in its immediate path. That figure is closer to the aid package that Congress approved in early 2013 for the East Coast to recover from Superstorm Sandy, which topped $50 billion.
Cruz and Cornyn voted against the final Sandy aid package. During that debate, they voted for an amendment that would have cut domestic spending to pay for the emergency funding."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 17:42:28 GMT
And yes, these relief bills often have other funding tied to them. Congress has had riders on bills since congress began. Just as any Harvey relief will likely have. And the "riders" are often related to ther areas' disaster needs. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270469/Obama-signs-50BILLION-Hurricane-Sandy-relief-approved-Congress-months-superstorm-ravaged-Northeast.html"GOP leaders cut spending in the Senate bill unrelated to disasters. One would have transferred $1billion for training Iraqi policemen to instead be used to bolster security at U.S. diplomatic missions. The shift in money followed a September 11 terrorist attack on the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, where the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans were killed. Also deleted were $188million for an Amtrak expansion project that included new, long-planned tunnels from New Jersey to Penn Station in Manhattan, and another $150million for fisheries disasters that states such as Alaska and Mississippi could have shared. After all the cost-cutting, 179 House Republicans still voted against the disaster aid package with only 49 favoring it. GOP leaders had to rely on yes votes from 192 Democrats to pass it." |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 18:56:53 GMT
The general consensus of Republicans in Congress is not to vote money to help others like the Sandy relief vote demonstrated. But if it's their state or district then they want as much money as they can get their little hands on for their state/district.
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Post by peabay on Aug 26, 2017 19:15:59 GMT
Hope they all voted for Hurricane Sandy relief.
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Post by burningfeather on Aug 26, 2017 19:34:21 GMT
I'm just checking in to see if anyone is crying "too soon" like they do on other political posts that get posted DURING a catastrophic event.
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 26, 2017 19:43:03 GMT
I'm just checking in to see if anyone is crying "too soon" like they do on other political posts that get posted DURING a catastrophic event. Eh since the POTUS can be concerned with a pardon, announcing a firing/resignation, and banning transgender people from military service DURING a catastrophic event, that sort of limitation no longer seems to matter. |
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Post by pierogi on Aug 26, 2017 19:43:45 GMT
Hope they all voted for Hurricane Sandy relief. No, they did not.  |
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Post by burningfeather on Aug 26, 2017 19:47:25 GMT
I'm just checking in to see if anyone is crying "too soon" like they do on other political posts that get posted DURING a catastrophic event. Eh since the POTUS can be concerned with a pardon, announcing a firing/resignation, and banning transgender people from military service DURING a catastrophic event, that sort of limitation no longer seems to matter. Oh, I didn't realize that the world and government came to a stop during every other catastrophic event. I thought it was just deemed "too soon" to talk about here. Got it. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 26, 2017 20:02:44 GMT
Yes, we know about it here n NJ/NY/CT
I just had decided not to post, but since someone else did, here is a local article.
New Jersey Real-Time News
Texas Republicans hit by Hurricane Harvey voted against Sandy aid for N.J.
Updated on August 26, 2017 at 2:27 PMPosted on August 26, 2017 at 10:57 AM
By MaryAnn Spotomspoto@njadvancemedia.com,
NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
With Texas now having to deal with the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey, lawmakers there will be looking for federal disaster aid - after they voted against a crucial aid package for New Jersey and New York following Hurricane Sandy in 2012.
The Dallas News says eight Texas representatives in 2013 voted against replenishing the National Flood Insurance Program, which was already running out of money ahead of Sandy.
All but one member of the Republican delegation from Texas also voted no on a second bill providing $50.5 billion in aid for Sandy victims.
Early projections are that Harvey, which came ashore Friday night as a Category 4 storm, could cause $40 billion in damages.
Gov. Chris Christie, who had announced his bid for the GOP presidential nod, had specifically called out Sen. Ted Cruz in 2015 for his "no" vote when Texas had already received aid for flooding in previous disasters.
Opposition to the Sandy spending package delayed relief to New Jersey, New York and Connecticut by nearly three months.
As part of the compromise in getting the bill passed, Sandy aid funds would also have to be used for future disasters in other states.
MaryAnn Spoto may be reached at mspoto@njadvancemedia.com. Follow her on Twitter @maryannspoto. Find NJ.com on Facebook.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 20:30:55 GMT
It's never TOO SOON to discuss and make democratic decisions that help human flourishing.
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Post by Merge on Aug 26, 2017 20:32:38 GMT
I'm eternally disgusted by most of our Texas elected officials.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 20:34:22 GMT
I'm eternally disgusted by most of our Texas elected officials. If only people would vote in greater numbers. Democracy doesn't work well w/o massive education and participation. |
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Post by Merge on Aug 26, 2017 20:43:30 GMT
I'm eternally disgusted by most of our Texas elected officials. If only people would vote in greater numbers. Democracy doesn't work well w/o massive education and participation. We're one of the most heavily gerrymandered states in the country, and, not surprisingly, one of the ones with lowest turnout. People who know they have no chance of making their voice heard don't tend to turn out. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 20:52:42 GMT
If only people would vote in greater numbers. Democracy doesn't work well w/o massive education and participation. We're one of the most heavily gerrymandered states in the country, and, not surprisingly, one of the ones with lowest turnout. People who know they have no chance of making their voice heard don't tend to turn out. Self-fulfilling prophecy, I'm afraid. And g'manding doesn't affect Senate & Governor races. People have to get out more than they are, or we will keeping getting what we've got. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 26, 2017 20:58:26 GMT
If only people would vote in greater numbers. Democracy doesn't work well w/o massive education and participation. We're one of the most heavily gerrymandered states in the country, and, not surprisingly, one of the ones with lowest turnout. People who know they have no chance of making their voice heard don't tend to turn out. What 'they' don't understand is that if they all showed up to vote, even IF their person loses, the adverse vote lets the candidates know they need to clean up their act. Or better, if 'they'' ALL voted, the good guy might win in some cases. |
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Post by librarylady on Aug 26, 2017 20:58:37 GMT
Karma comes around to bite Cruz and Cornyn in the ass.
Unfortunately we, the citizens, have to suffer under their decisions.
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 26, 2017 21:03:07 GMT
We're one of the most heavily gerrymandered states in the country, and, not surprisingly, one of the ones with lowest turnout. People who know they have no chance of making their voice heard don't tend to turn out. What 'they' don't understand is that if they all showed up to vote, even IF their person loses, the adverse vote lets the candidates know they need to clean up their act. Or better, if 'they'' ALL voted, the good guy might win in some cases. I,ve been saying this for years. Voting lets them know we are watching. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 26, 2017 21:06:11 GMT
Karma comes around to bite Cruz and Cornyn in the ass. Unfortunately we, the citizens, have to suffer under their decisions. They article I posted states that other states will get $$$$... I am sure you will. |
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Post by melanell on Aug 26, 2017 21:23:11 GMT
We're one of the most heavily gerrymandered states in the country, and, not surprisingly, one of the ones with lowest turnout. People who know they have no chance of making their voice heard don't tend to turn out.Self-fulfilling prophecy, I'm afraid. I agree. There was "no way" PA would vote for Trump. That was the loud and clear message prior to the election. Well, Trump supporters decided to go out and vote even if they were doomed to lose and they won. You never know when the other side will get complacent in their voting. So vote every time as if you have every chance in the world of being heard, just in case.  Save |
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Post by hop2 on Aug 26, 2017 21:30:57 GMT
Karma comes around to bite Cruz and Cornyn in the ass. Unfortunately we, the citizens, have to suffer under their decisions. They article I posted states that other states will get $$$$... I am sure you will. Hahahahahahahahaha federal aid lol Texas, my advice, DO NOT count on federal aid. It will be: Too late Too little AND if your not careful they will alter your claim to screw you. Just ask the hundreds of people in the NY/NJ area who had to file grievances because the federal flood insurance altered their claims m so they could deny them. Oh, and they'll ask for it back after you've spent it too. Worst program ever |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 0:48:03 GMT
WaPo takes on the Cruz BS about "pork" in the final bill he voted against. www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/08/29/ted-cruzs-claim-that-two-thirds-of-the-hurricane-sandy-bill-had-nothing-to-do-with-sandy/"So was the $50 billion bill filled with pork — two-thirds of which was unrelated to Sandy? No. The Congressional Research Service issued a comprehensive report on the provisions, and it’s clear that virtually all of it was related to the damage caused by Sandy. There may have been some pork in an earlier Senate version, but many of those items were removed before final passage. There were also some items that appear to have been misunderstood. Ryan, for instance, referred in a statement to “non-Sandy expenses,” such as “sand dunes at the Kennedy Space Center, highway repairs in the Virgin Islands, and roof repairs in Washington, D.C.” But Sandy was a storm that stretched far beyond New Jersey and New York as it raced up from the Caribbean. The Smithsonian Institution suffered roof leaks from heavy winds and torrential rain, resulting in a $2 million request. The shoreline near Launch Pads 39A and B at the Kennedy Space Center also suffered major erosion, leaving the ocean less than a quarter-mile away, so $15 million was added to deal with that problem and repair a NASA facility on Wallops Island in Virginia that also was damaged by Sandy. We couldn’t find a line-item for Virgin Islands highway funding, so it appears to have been relatively minor. The bill did wrap in some other 2012 disaster funding, including disasters that had been declared over Alaska Chinook salmon, New England groundfish, Mississippi fisheries and American Samoa bottomfish. Those are the fisheries that the Cornyn spokesman referenced — but they were disaster declarations. So one would think it would make sense to include relief in a disaster bill... Three Pinocchios" |
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