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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 12:29:29 GMT
Do you think it’s not ok for people to express their opinions here about how Ali presents herself? Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I don't have to like them anymore than you have to like mine. I am getting bashed because I posted a different opinion than others. I'm glad you posted your opinion. I don't agree w/it in this instance. I, however, fail to see where you were "bashed". Unless someone deleted a post I didn't see?
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Post by frenchie on May 3, 2019 13:36:51 GMT
As someone who was bullied in school for the clothes I wore or the stores they came from what someone wears or when they wear them doesn't phase me. I would never judge I know how that feels. I am always uncomfortable when conversations go to someone’s physical appearance (not just here, but also irl) I love the discussions about shipping problems, product releases and that type of thing. We (collectively not judging anyone or pointing fingers) put her down when she has fake eyelashes,when she doesn’t wear make up, when she wears yoga pants and when she wears dresses. She can.not.win... I 100% believe in your right to express whatever opinions about her that you see fit. This is the Ali thread and they belong here. It’s my job to scroll by when something is off to me. hutchfan I just wanted you to know you are not alone in your feelings. This
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Post by scrappyem on May 3, 2019 14:23:54 GMT
I've noticed her very casual appearance in videos lately too. It had me wondering about her depression issues. Hopefully she's getting help if she needs it. I know she's mentioned struggling in the past. But if she just feels like being super causal, then that's her choice and all good. Sometimes I wish I could go to work in my pjs & no make-up. The amount of pressure on women to look a certain way is so annoying but I find myself noticing/judging how other women look and how I look. I noticed it on AE too obviously and really, it's not any of my business, but I still noticed/thought about for at least a minute while watching one of her videos. I notice men's appearance of course, but not nearly to the same degree. This all ties back into the earlier discussion of how women are sold shit to "live our best life" and that includes $100 leggings and a whole lot of Spanx so we "look" a certain way (ie Western heteronormative standard of beauty). Sigh.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 3, 2019 15:17:15 GMT
Thanks for your prospective. I hope you have a wonderful weekend too! Thank you, friend. *pops open the marshmallow bag* *passes it around*
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Post by lasteve1 on May 3, 2019 15:48:38 GMT
I have been off the boards for a few days and it seems like I missed quite a bit around here!
I totally see both sides of the discussion re: the clothing/appearance, but it also seemed like a respectful discussion so hopefully no one walked away from it upset. I personally am in the camp of, I don't care how much you spent on your clothes, but I do think you should put some effort into personal presentation when you show up to work, be it IRL or on a video. I know in my office a minimum level of self grooming/presentation is required and I think that's standard, so it seems only natural to apply a similar standard to those working remotely via video.
But side note, what is with all the J. Crew hate? I bought a shirt there last Saturday for $6. It was at their outlet but still... they are not a "high end" brand. If she was wearing Prada and Gucci then I would understand the use of brands to point out her high income, but idk that J. Crew does that. While it is definitely pricier than Walmart on average, who knows if she is shopping sales/outlets/using coupons?
I am not in the OLW classroom (speaking of... those of you on the OLW thread here I intend to send my monthly update later today, sorry for the delay!) but I want to give Ali the benefit of the doubt with her comments about it only taking an hour and that people can do it. As someone who has participated in the class a number of times the general sentiment I got from other class takers is that many people fell off the wagon with keeping up around March and felt like they didn't have the time to catch up. I know in the past the facebook group has been full of people posting how behind they are, how they don't have the time, how they don't know how to catch up, etc., so I really think that it's meant to be a positive encouragement to get people to feel like they could do it. But I have seen how in some other classes she seems to "phone it in" (the main reason I didn't sign up for the class this year) and could understand how this statement could come across as dismissive.
I like the text on the instagram stories, I was so thrilled when Elise started it and I'm happy to see Ali following. I agree it's not always perfect, but I often watch stories when I can't really turn on sound and if it's just someone talking with no text there is nothing I can do to follow along. I wish instagram had a function to mark stories as unwatched so I would remember to watch it later when I have sound!
I think I'm all caught up now? Now to get back to work... only 3 more hours, bring on the weekend!
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Post by joblackford on May 3, 2019 17:43:37 GMT
I am not in the OLW classroom (speaking of... those of you on the OLW thread here I intend to send my monthly update later today, sorry for the delay!) but I want to give Ali the benefit of the doubt with her comments about it only taking an hour and that people can do it. As someone who has participated in the class a number of times the general sentiment I got from other class takers is that many people fell off the wagon with keeping up around March and felt like they didn't have the time to catch up. I know in the past the facebook group has been full of people posting how behind they are, how they don't have the time, how they don't know how to catch up, etc., so I really think that it's meant to be a positive encouragement to get people to feel like they could do it. But I have seen how in some other classes she seems to "phone it in" (the main reason I didn't sign up for the class this year) and could understand how this statement could come across as dismissive. No worries about the OLW thread lasteve1 - thanks for doing that! I think we're all starting to suffer from OLW (or whatever year long project we're doing) fatigue by April or May, if not before, so I would agree that that might have been what AE was talking about with the whole one hour thing. I'm not in the classroom so I didn't see and hear it or know how it came across, but I could give her the benefit of the doubt on that.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 20:13:22 GMT
My 2 cents. I have had an insane week. A series of heavy rains flooded my car and fried a lot of the electronics. My car has long had an issue with leaking and even though there was a class action law suit, and we were paid out, the issue has continued. But now the company is saying, not their problem. So I either fight or I get a new car. I had my kitchen floor replaced yesterday - and this AM, the washing machine flooded because the door was damaged when it was moved. My son still isn't any better. A project at work blew up so I have been trouble shooting that all week long. Suffice to say, I haven't focused on what I am wearing at all. Cos I just do not have time or energy to do so. So you never know, there could be a lot of drama going on in Ali's life that has shifted her focus, or maybe she read our comments about her clogs and wanted to be more casual. Who knows. My personal opinion, I couldn't care less what Ali wears. I know others feel differently. And that's ok. hutchfan I'm sorry to hear you were bullied at school about your clothes. Bullying for any reason is horrible. I was the skinny, nerdy kid at school with the boyish haircut and hand me down brother clothes. So not cool and I have a ton of hangups from those years. If I could go back and tell my shy, uncoordinated self to hold my head up high and realise that none of that matters, I would! I also think a lot of the feelings around Ali center around burn-out. The frequent releases of similar product, increasing prices, repeating projects that used to be a once a year gig, means higher pressure/expectation on Ali to improve/be different. The Ali fatigue ball has started to gain serious speed. There is only so long that a person wants to pay for million dollar chipboard before they say no more, my cup has runneth over. Or maybe I just have a lot of water on my mind. Counting down to HAPPY HOUR now :-)
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Post by hutchfan on May 3, 2019 20:22:25 GMT
My 2 cents. I have had an insane week. A series of heavy rains flooded my car and fried a lot of the electronics. My car has long had an issue with leaking and even though there was a class action law suit, and we were paid out, the issue has continued. But now the company is saying, not their problem. So I either fight or I get a new car. I had my kitchen floor replaced yesterday - and this AM, the washing machine flooded because the door was damaged when it was moved. My son still isn't any better. A project at work blew up so I have been trouble shooting that all week long. Suffice to say, I haven't focused on what I am wearing at all. Cos I just do not have time or energy to do so. So you never know, there could be a lot of drama going on in Ali's life that has shifted her focus, or maybe she read our comments about her clogs and wanted to be more casual. Who knows. My personal opinion, I couldn't care less what Ali wears. I know others feel differently. And that's ok. hutchfan I'm sorry to hear you were bullied at school about your clothes. Bullying for any reason is horrible. I was the skinny, nerdy kid at school with the boyish haircut and hand me down brother clothes. So not cool and I have a ton of hangups from those years. If I could go back and tell my shy, uncoordinated self to hold my head up high and realise that none of that matters, I would! I also think a lot of the feelings around Ali center around burn-out. The frequent releases of similar product, increasing prices, repeating projects that used to be a once a year gig, means higher pressure/expectation on Ali to improve/be different. The Ali fatigue ball has started to gain serious speed. There is only so long that a person wants to pay for million dollar chipboard before they say no more, my cup has runneth over. Or maybe I just have a lot of water on my mind. Counting down to HAPPY HOUR now :-) So sorry to hear that you are going through all that. I hope you have a much better weekend!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 20:58:59 GMT
Do you think it’s not ok for people to express their opinions here about how Ali presents herself? Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I don't have to like them anymore than you have to like mine. I am getting bashed because I posted a different opinion than others. I’m glad you expressed your opinion. I don’t share it on this occasion. I agree everyone is entitled to their opinions. I can’t agree you’ve been “getting bashed” for yours. I think people have been reacting to your comments by respectfully explaining their perspectives. And I think you’ve been acknowledged, supported, empathised with and given *hugs*.
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Post by hutchfan on May 3, 2019 21:45:37 GMT
Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I don't have to like them anymore than you have to like mine. I am getting bashed because I posted a different opinion than others. I’m glad you expressed your opinion. I don’t share it on this occasion. I agree everyone is entitled to their opinions. I can’t agree you’ve been “getting bashed” for yours. I think people have been reacting to your comments by respectfully explaining their perspectives. And I think you’ve been acknowledged, supported, empathised with and given *hugs*. And I have respectfully explained my perspective too. And I am truly grateful for the support and hugs from the wonderful peas here. Hopefully you can move on like I am. Have a wonderful weekend!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 22:03:30 GMT
I’m glad you expressed your opinion. I don’t share it on this occasion. I agree everyone is entitled to their opinions. I can’t agree you’ve been “getting bashed” for yours. I think people have been reacting to your comments by respectfully explaining their perspectives. And I think you’ve been acknowledged, supported, empathised with and given *hugs*. And I have respectfully explained my perspective too. And I am truly grateful for the support and hugs from the wonderful peas here. Hopefully you can move on like I am. Have a wonderful weekend! Right back 'atcha Babe!
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Post by gynergy on May 4, 2019 22:10:46 GMT
Clothes people wear doesn't affect me I would never make comments about anyone's outfits no matter what they are wearing or when they are wearing them based on what I went through in school. I am sorry if my opinion is upsetting anyone. What I do care about is the product I am purchasing, if it doesn't meet my standards then I don't have to buy it. How the company or those that work for the company treat their customers are what is important to me not their clothes they are wearing. With all due respect, I don't know if you are in the OLW classroom, but Ali's dial-it-in lack of enthusiasm was reflected in her work (slapping some labels on photos, scribbling some trite, repetitive journaling, slapping some chipboard asterisks on it, and shoving it into pockets to the point that a piece of chipboard flew across the room apparently), and her attitude towards customers (I know you can do it, guys), so top that with clearly not giving a shit about presentation IS disrespecting your customer, who paid for content that at the very least shouldn't be so visibly uninspired. Coming here to talk about the outfit is SYMBOLIC of the feeling of being disrespected. Her attitude is so externalized that yes, I wonder if she needs to step back from this shit and have her own life again. Edited to add: And yes, I'm done with anything of Ali's I have to pay for.
Yes, what bothers me as a customer isn’t so much her choice of clothes, where she buys them or how she grooms herself, for aesthetic or “body shaming” purposes ,but as if relates to an apparent lack of investment & lack of engagement in her work (class prep & video) or something not being OK with her personally. Even when I’m in a tough place (I live with depression & anxiety) and can’t manage make up & the straightening iron, I go to work in clean, work-appropriate clothing that’s in good condition and with clean, neat hair. If she’s having a tough time, better to just acknowledge it up front (Hey guys, this is a challenging time right now and I may seem a little off from My typical self. But I’m still really glad to be here showing you how I did ... and I hope to be feeling much better/more like myself next month.). Maybe it’s the therapist in me, but I prefer the up front approach — not to make excuses for poor work but to acknowledge lower energy level and that it’s not about May’s OLW video.
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Post by craftymom101 on May 4, 2019 22:31:49 GMT
I don’t think Ali is having a tough time (I’ve seen this reason given for her possible appearance lately). I think the messy, boho, unkempt, haphazard way of dressing is “in” right now and she is following the trend. Elise Cripe is another one who always looks “messy” to me (oversized clothes, messy hair, slouchy overall style). It’s not my personal style at all.
I’ve noticed Ali’s lack of enthusiasm for her own products and projects for awhile now and it’s disheartening as a customer. She was one of my favorite scrapbookers and I always loved how she combined products in new and interesting ways. She’s gone away from technique-based scrapbooking to a much simpler style that isn’t nearly as innovative or inspiring. I understand she wants to promote her products but I wish her style was more than slapping a label sticker on a photo and slipping it in a pocket.
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Post by hutchfan on May 4, 2019 23:00:41 GMT
I loved her Life Artist and A Designer's Eye books. I miss pages like those.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 13:36:20 GMT
My 2 cents. I have had an insane week. ...... Counting down to HAPPY HOUR now :-) Yes you have! Hope very much that things are improving!
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Post by cbscrapper on May 5, 2019 18:24:18 GMT
Or bio labs. Seriously, this is one of Brené Brown's go-to words. And now she's rephrasing it as "having to courage to." Huh, I’ve been working real hard in maintaining my cool & always being in control? ( at least at work and in public ) guess I should stop? That one got my attention too. She obviously doesn’t work in a demanding, stressful field.
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Post by mom on May 5, 2019 19:11:58 GMT
Anyone else love seeing Ali post about Simon + prom?
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Post by hutchfan on May 5, 2019 19:32:29 GMT
Anyone else love seeing Ali post about Simon + prom? I loved her post and was so happy he had a wonderful time!
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Post by Skellinton on May 5, 2019 19:37:20 GMT
Anyone else love seeing Ali post about Simon + prom? I don’t follow her, but went to check it out. That is really sweet and great that they are so supportive of him! I also really like that Chris was texting Ali updates, I may not agree with her business decisions but she seems to be doing right by her kids. I love the comments about letting your kids be who they are and supporting and fostering that. All kids should have parents that believe and practice that.
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Post by marg on May 5, 2019 20:07:57 GMT
I loved her Life Artist and A Designer's Eye books. I miss pages like those. I was just looking at those books this weekend. I almost gave them away a few years ago and am so glad I didn't. They're great to go back to.
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Post by mom on May 5, 2019 20:44:20 GMT
Anyone else love seeing Ali post about Simon + prom? I don’t follow her, but went to check it out. That is really sweet and great that they are so supportive of him! I also really like that Chris was texting Ali updates, I may not agree with her business decisions but she seems to be doing right by her kids. I love the comments about letting your kids be who they are and supporting and fostering that. All kids should have parents that believe and practice that. I agree, completely.
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Post by pancakes on May 6, 2019 3:24:46 GMT
Did the Peas decide if she is or isn’t pregnant? Her recent IG story at the Blazers game really had me thinking about it again...
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Post by craftymom101 on May 6, 2019 4:08:10 GMT
Did the Peas decide if she is or isn’t pregnant? Her recent IG story at the Blazers game really had me thinking about it again... Me, too!
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Post by jennyap on May 6, 2019 8:10:36 GMT
Did the Peas decide if she is or isn’t pregnant? Her recent IG story at the Blazers game really had me thinking about it again... I didn’t see that but someone posted this from the game on FB and I was definitely thinking the same...
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Post by julie5 on May 6, 2019 9:54:21 GMT
Did the Peas decide if she is or isn’t pregnant? Her recent IG story at the Blazers game really had me thinking about it again... Was just coming to post the same thing.
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Post by dawnnikol on May 6, 2019 11:36:45 GMT
This reminds me of a Jennifer Garner thing I read about something she said on Ellen. Found it!I'm sure if there's something to tell her customers, she will at some point.
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Post by julie5 on May 6, 2019 11:42:37 GMT
Well I had a 7 month baby bump right before my hysterectomy. But my pain from my uterus was such that I wasn’t able to enjoy leisure activities. And I don’t recall Ali having the “had 2 kids” bump all along. :shrugs: I don’t care one way or another. I’d have another kid if I could but I can’t so I have a dog I spoil rotten.
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Post by sneakylatina on May 6, 2019 16:18:23 GMT
Did the Peas decide if she is or isn’t pregnant? Her recent IG story at the Blazers game really had me thinking about it again... I don't think she is, but I see why people think she might be from the photo, and maybe she is, but she posted again on a thread when someone asked about Noom and said she'd "fallen off" but was back on it and that it helps her with portion control and the psychology aspect of eating... She has discussed in OLW that she's gained weight and is unhappy about it/ not used to it, due to the antidepressant she's taken and she's hitting her mid-ish 40s, and doesn't exercise/walk consistently, so it's pretty normal to develop some belly. If she's pregnant, I'm not sure she would be back on Noom (a dieting app) and watching her portions. Is she's not pregnant, I could also see her not dressing to "hide" weight gain, since this is a new development for her; she's just doing her thing... But who knows! It would be cute if she is. The photo is cute, too.
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Post by pancakes on May 6, 2019 16:56:07 GMT
Did the Peas decide if she is or isn’t pregnant? Her recent IG story at the Blazers game really had me thinking about it again... I don't think she is, but I see why people think she might be from the photo, and maybe she is, but she posted again on a thread when someone asked about Noom and said she'd "fallen off" but was back on it and that it helps her with portion control and the psychology aspect of eating... She has discussed in OLW that she's gained weight and is unhappy about it/ not used to it, due to the antidepressant she's taken and she's hitting her mid-ish 40s, and doesn't exercise/walk consistently, so it's pretty normal to develop some belly. If she's pregnant, I'm not sure she would be back on Noom (a dieting app) and watching her portions. Is she's not pregnant, I could also see her not dressing to "hide" weight gain, since this is a new development for her; she's just doing her thing... But who knows! It would be cute if she is. The photo is cute, too. Well, the reason why I was wondering is because in the IG story (not the photo), there was a clip of her putting on a Blazers t-shirt, which showed the lower abdomen region. A lot of the weight was lower, not up by her stomach...it was down near her intestines/uterus area. I mean, you are probably right — it was just an odder place to gain weight, as opposed to the midsection. No judgment either way from me. It just re-sparked the thought.
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Post by julie5 on May 6, 2019 18:33:59 GMT
Well I’m not calling her fat, glass house and all. But she looks pregnant. There’s a difference.
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