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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 22:09:20 GMT
Saw this on FB today. Who does this? From article in the Washington Post: "Two medical staffers at a military hospital in Florida were barred from caring for patients after they were seen in disturbing images mishandling a newborn, making obscene gestures and calling babies “mini Satans.” One video shows a female staffer in gloves and medical scrubs holding the infant by the armpit, moving the arms and body as music played in the background. One photo shows a staffer flipping a middle finger at the infant. Its caption reads: “How I currently feel about these mini Satans.” The video can be seen here: www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/navy-surgeon-applauds-those-who-reported-baby-photos/611442913 |
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Sept 20, 2017 23:06:34 GMT
I think this is so incredibly unprofessional. They should be disciplined at minimum if not terminated
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Post by Anna*Banana on Sept 20, 2017 23:28:18 GMT
Were these civilian or military nurses?
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Post by deekaye on Sept 20, 2017 23:32:05 GMT
The news last night identified them as "corpsman", so I think that they are military?
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Post by Anna*Banana on Sept 20, 2017 23:34:30 GMT
Holy crap, it was a Navy Nurse! Wow. A family friend is an OB/GYN, military doctor at Jacksonville... Can't wait to hear what he has to say about this.
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Post by Really Red on Sept 21, 2017 0:14:02 GMT
Holy crap, it was a Navy Nurse! Wow. A family friend is an OB/GYN, military doctor at Jacksonville... Can't wait to hear what he has to say about this. They came out and said these two were NOT nurses. Did they not tell the truth? I am scandalized. They should be fired and kicked out of the service. Disgusting. |
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Post by tkdmom on Sept 21, 2017 0:44:04 GMT
According the article they were identified as corpsman. Corpsman are not nurses. They showed the infant's face. That is a HIPPA violation. It would also be considered a deliberate HIPPA violation since they purposely posted it to snapchat. This in most institutions would be immediate termination. The can face civil action from the parents on behalf of the child, and criminal action(federal level). Child abuse I doubt would stick.
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Post by Grom Pea on Sept 21, 2017 1:04:59 GMT
According the article they were identified as corpsman. Corpsman are not nurses. They showed the infant's face. That is a HIPPA violation. It would also be considered a deliberate HIPPA violation since they purposely posted it to snapchat. This in most institutions would be immediate termination. The can face civil action from the parents on behalf of the child, and criminal action(federal level). Child abuse I doubt would stick. HIPAA it's the health insurance portability and accountability act. It deals with keeping your health care information private. While inappropriate that they did this and took photos, I'm not sure if it violates HIPAA unless it dealt with mishandling of their records |
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Post by laureljean on Sept 21, 2017 1:38:41 GMT
That is just sick! As a granny of a newborn, I am appalled and so much more than angry. She could have hurt the babies she was messing with.
She should be dishonorably discharged.
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Post by mcscrapper on Sept 21, 2017 1:46:26 GMT
This is despicable behavior and they should be disciplined both from the military and by their state. From what I've read, they are not licensed medical staff but this is definitely a HIPAA violation and could be considered patient abuse. I really cannot believe how these idiots can even begin to justify their actions.
I'm also willing to be they have done this before.
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Post by crittsmom on Sept 21, 2017 3:41:20 GMT
If this happened where I worked you would be terminated. It would be considered a HIPAA violation where I work (right or wrong).
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Post by zella on Sept 21, 2017 3:58:04 GMT
According the article they were identified as corpsman. Corpsman are not nurses. They showed the infant's face. That is a HIPPA violation. It would also be considered a deliberate HIPPA violation since they purposely posted it to snapchat. This in most institutions would be immediate termination. The can face civil action from the parents on behalf of the child, and criminal action(federal level). Child abuse I doubt would stick. PLEASE NOTE THIS. These women are NOT nurses! They are the military equivalent of medical assistants or nursing assistants. As an RN I get pissed off when people with minimal training are called (or call themselves) nurses. No offense intended here, but we nurses go through a LOT to get those letters after our name! My ex held this job in the Air Force back in the late 80's to early 90's. He went to class full time plus for 3 1/2 months, and I expect it's very similar in the navy. Yes, this is a HIPAA violation. They can most certainly face criminal charges for this. And I guarantee that their training included HIPAA regulations, because everyone in the medical field has to take this training. I hope they are dishonorably discharged, as I think that is appropriate. I don't think this is child abuse; I do think it shows incredible lack of judgment, and clearly they shouldn't be working with babies given their obvious distaste for these tiny patients. |
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Post by zella on Sept 21, 2017 4:07:43 GMT
According the article they were identified as corpsman. Corpsman are not nurses. They showed the infant's face. That is a HIPPA violation. It would also be considered a deliberate HIPPA violation since they purposely posted it to snapchat. This in most institutions would be immediate termination. The can face civil action from the parents on behalf of the child, and criminal action(federal level). Child abuse I doubt would stick. HIPAA it's the health insurance portability and accountability act. It deals with keeping your health care information private. While inappropriate that they did this and took photos, I'm not sure if it violates HIPAA unless it dealt with mishandling of their records HIPAA privacy rules also cover identifying patients. You aren't allowed, for example, to even confirm or deny if a person is in the hospital unless you have written consent to do so. Showing the face of a patient violates the patient's privacy. So yes, this is a HIPAA violation. It's no different than if they'd posted a photo of themselves with an elderly patient who was unconscious. Huge violation of privacy. |
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 21, 2017 4:31:57 GMT
No offense intended here, but The CNAs I worked with as well as office staff had extensive training about HIPPA. It's pretty basic beginner information for people that only go through a few weeks of training and have no letters behind their name. |
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Post by mcscrapper on Sept 21, 2017 6:28:08 GMT
PLEASE NOTE THIS. These women are NOT nurses! They are the military equivalent of medical assistants or nursing assistants. As an RN I get pissed off when people with minimal training are called (or call themselves) nurses. No offense intended here, but we nurses go through a LOT to get those letters after our name! My ex held this job in the Air Force back in the late 80's to early 90's. He went to class full time plus for 3 1/2 months, and I expect it's very similar in the navy. Yes, this is a HIPAA violation. They can most certainly face criminal charges for this. And I guarantee that their training included HIPAA regulations, because everyone in the medical field has to take this training. I hope they are dishonorably discharged, as I think that is appropriate. I don't think this is child abuse; I do think it shows incredible lack of judgment, and clearly they shouldn't be working with babies given their obvious distaste for these tiny patients. I agree! I hate when people call him/herself a nurse but didn't earn that title as we did. I worked my arse off to earn and keep that privilege. And from what I've read these women could be brought up on child maltreatment charges which is similar to abuse in some states. It absolutely does display totally lack of judgement and character. I would agree that a dishonorable discharge should be the first step in disciplining this trash. SaveSave |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 7:31:09 GMT
If I were the mother of that infant , that little twitsnitch would be looking over her shoulder.
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Post by Grom Pea on Sept 21, 2017 14:54:21 GMT
HIPAA it's the health insurance portability and accountability act. It deals with keeping your health care information private. While inappropriate that they did this and took photos, I'm not sure if it violates HIPAA unless it dealt with mishandling of their records HIPAA privacy rules also cover identifying patients. You aren't allowed, for example, to even confirm or deny if a person is in the hospital unless you have written consent to do so. Showing the face of a patient violates the patient's privacy. So yes, this is a HIPAA violation. It's no different than if they'd posted a photo of themselves with an elderly patient who was unconscious. Huge violation of privacy. Thank you for the clarification. I always thought it was just the records. So basically if you are a hospital worker and you see your friend at the hospital you can't really call them by name if other people are standing right there then? I assume that's why they have that 3 feet space between the counter and the line so someone can't overhear medical or personal info? |
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Sept 21, 2017 15:23:08 GMT
Since they are corpsmen, will they be court martialed? I was so appalled and angry at what I saw so I'm all for throwing the book at them.
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Post by peabay on Sept 21, 2017 15:31:01 GMT
Absolutely disgraceful behavior. I clicked on that on FB thinking "how bad can it be." It's so freaking bad. What the hell is wrong with them?
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Post by scrappyesq on Sept 21, 2017 15:42:25 GMT
The one who held the baby by the armpits should definitely be fired. The slightest wrong move with a newborn could be catastrophic.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Sept 21, 2017 15:51:07 GMT
The one who held the baby by the armpits should definitely be fired. The slightest wrong move with a newborn could be catastrophic. This. What she did was dangerous. |
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Post by oh yvonne on Sept 21, 2017 15:58:08 GMT
I couldn't even watch the video, it's so upsetting to me! Just ditto what everyone else has said here.
Fire them, or whatever you need to do to get them out of healthcare for good.
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Post by melissa on Sept 21, 2017 17:18:26 GMT
So basically if you are a hospital worker and you see your friend at the hospital you can't really call them by name if other people are standing right there then? You can call your friend my name if you run into them at the hospital while they are a patient. What you cannot do is tell your other friends that the friend is in the hospital. |
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Post by kate on Sept 21, 2017 17:33:34 GMT
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Post by anniefb on Sept 21, 2017 17:59:13 GMT
I didn't want to watch the video but this is disgusting.
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Post by oh yvonne on Sept 21, 2017 18:47:06 GMT
I just read that response from the Naval Surgeon General and dang, you can't get much better than that!
and GOOD. These idiots should be shaking in their boots right now!
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Post by missbennet on Sept 21, 2017 18:48:26 GMT
I also expected it to not be that bad, but I was cringing at how tiny that baby was and those shoulder movements plus "dancing". The baby will be fine I trust, but the mother must be just incandescent over that.
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Post by deanna on Sept 21, 2017 18:56:49 GMT
I'm also a REAL RN, and all I can say about this is it's incredible that this behavior is taking place at all!! The persons involved in this would have been fired on the spot (or when it came to light) at the hospital I worked in. No question about it. The CNA's that I worked with were much more professional than these people!! They were my right hands!! I loved working with them!
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Post by zella on Sept 21, 2017 19:40:35 GMT
HIPAA privacy rules also cover identifying patients. You aren't allowed, for example, to even confirm or deny if a person is in the hospital unless you have written consent to do so. Showing the face of a patient violates the patient's privacy. So yes, this is a HIPAA violation. It's no different than if they'd posted a photo of themselves with an elderly patient who was unconscious. Huge violation of privacy. Thank you for the clarification. I always thought it was just the records. So basically if you are a hospital worker and you see your friend at the hospital you can't really call them by name if other people are standing right there then? I assume that's why they have that 3 feet space between the counter and the line so someone can't overhear medical or personal info? EDITED again, because I realized I basically said the same thing as Melissa, lol!: So, what Melissa said. Also, strictly speaking you shouldn't use personally identifying information around people who don't work in that facility. So if I was talking with a fellow nurse on a unit and said "Is Sue doing better today?" and there were visitors standing nearby, that'd be okay because Sue is a common name and it doesn't identify the person. If I said her full name, though, that wouldn't be okay, because the fact that Sue Smith is a patient is private information. And yes, the 3 feet is supposed to provide privacy. In some places signs are posted that state that privacy in this area cannot be guaranteed, so both the medical provider and patient are aware and can make the choice to move to a more private area if desired. Not surprisingly photos or videos of people in medical settings can never be used without written permission. I know that sometimes people slip up; we're not perfect. But this case isn't slipping up, it's blatant. Mean spirited too. |
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