tenakee
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Post by tenakee on Sept 25, 2017 3:02:04 GMT
Mom and I are meeting up November 10th to go explore a bit of Sequoia National Park. I'm thinking we might try to make a loop starting over in Three Rivers (we're meeting my brothers there for Friday and Saturday evenings). Maybe going from there to Wuksachi Lodge for a night or two, then up 198 to Montecito Sequoia Lodge or John Muir Lodge for a night or two, then back over to Fresno for our flights out on Thursday.
So, either California Peas or Peas that have visited the area in November: what can we expect as far as weather? is my plan for drive/lodging a realistic one for that time of year? I've checked out the Park website and historical weather info, but I don't really have a sense of the elevation and driving conditions through the area from poking around on the web.
While my main concern is what driving conditions might be like along 198 in mid-November, I'd love any thoughts/ideas/advice from the Peas as to how to best enjoy our time there too! We both like walking/light hiking but nothing TOO taxing as she's older and I'm out of shape, LOL.
Big thanks in advance!!
Valeria
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 4:26:24 GMT
The South Side will most likely be closed. It is typically closed at I believe 10pm to about 9am and is always closed when there is snow as it is a one lane road. You can expect delays for up to 2 hours on the road. So make sure you use the north entrance (Fresno side)
My parents just left there and there is already snow. It began to fall as they left Thursday. So be prepared for conditions that require chains.
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Post by LeaP on Sept 25, 2017 5:26:30 GMT
Be sure to keep chains on hand. After ten yeas of drought, we have had heaps of rain this year. This August and September have been unusually humid and moist and I always see storm clouds forming in the north. Parts of the Sierras have already had snow. If it snows they may require chains or close the roads. The 198 is super windey under the best of circumstances. Take the northern route in if you suspect the weather, though the southern route from 3 Rivers is more scenic.
It will be much cooler because of the elevation. Bring warm clothes. If you are not used to the elevation, be kind to yourself and take your time. Drink more water than you think. Also, be careful around water, lots of people drown every year. You would think it was common sense but people often climb over and past signs (says the person who tromped through frozen streams in Wawona with a crazy dog). Also bring maps, do not take shortcuts with your car's GPS and do not depend on your phone. Keep extra water in your car in case you are stranded.
Insofar as sites, Moro rock is beautiful and the view is spectacular. My dad made it to the top with lots of stops, silly man wore moccasins. Be modern, wear hiking or walking shoes. Nearby is the Grant Forest museum. There is a nice short hike through the non famous trees to the base of Moro rock. All of this is close to Wuksachi Village. As I recall, Crystal Cave is a long walk down and requires reservation and a shuttle bus. Boyden Cave is easier to visit and less crowded but far away on the road to King's Canyon. I love both of the groves and the meadows. If you can, visit both groves and one of the meadows. There isn't much elevation gain/loss so you needn't worry about your fitness.
The food is so so throughout the park, so pack in some healthy snacks. I think the ice cream at Hume Lake is spectacular, but that is probably because I was camping alone with my girls and the dog and discovered the miracle of refrigeration because we had none. This is a Christian camp at the north end of Hume Lake that has accomodation if you find the park is full.
Some of the ranger talks are good and the ones at night often involve fire. If you can, bundle up and go.
Have a great time!
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Post by slicksister on Sept 25, 2017 5:28:09 GMT
I live in the Sequoia National Forest and November is pretty unpredictable. You should definitely have chains. If there is a lot of snow you won't be allowed in the park wthout them. It could be fairly warm and sunny or it could be snowy. Call Wuksachi Lodge or Grant Grove and find out when they are open. Last year in November there was snow.
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Post by ntsf on Sept 25, 2017 6:09:56 GMT
its not just chains.. you should have blanket and shovel, and work gloves and kitty litter (for traction under the tires). and know how to put on chains. If you are ready to make different plans if there is a storm or lots of snow or something.. it is very very variable.
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Post by GiantsFan on Sept 25, 2017 14:56:27 GMT
I was just camping (in a truck camper) in SNP last week!
Sunday - Wednesday we had warm beautiful days, with wispy clouds going by. But the nights were very cool and crisp (like in the 30's). When the sun goes down it's downright cold! It is at 7,000 feet. On Thursday we awoke to rain, which turned to hail, then snow, then back to freezing rain. The weather in the Sierra Nevada is very unpredictable, especially in spring and fall. Keep your eye on the weather and have an alternate plan ready.
We were at Lodgegpole Campground which is about two miles south of Wuksachi Lodge.
I'm an avid hiker and I had trouble with the altitude. Easy trails for you and your mom are the General Sherman Tree trail and the Grant Grove. Weather permitting you can drive into Kings Canyon (actually in KCNP), there is a nice flat-ish meadow hike near the End of Road.
ETA: It's about a 2-2.5 hour drive from Lodgepole (or Wuksachi) to Fresno, so be sure to give yourself plenty of time to catch your flight.
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Post by its me mg on Sept 26, 2017 9:34:52 GMT
I live in the Sequoia National Forest and November is pretty unpredictable. You should definitely have chains. If there is a lot of snow you won't be allowed in the park wthout them. It could be fairly warm and sunny or it could be snowy. Call Wuksachi Lodge or Grant Grove and find out when they are open. Last year in November there was snow. There is nothing more beautiful in the WORLD then Wuksachi in the snow. Holy crap. You could spend your entire life sitting in their restaurant's dining room watching the snow fall from the floor to ceiling windows. G-O-R-G-E-O-U-S!
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Post by Just Beth on Sept 26, 2017 10:54:53 GMT
Be sure to keep chains on hand. After ten yeas of drought, we have had heaps of rain this year. This August and September have been unusually humid and moist and I always see storm clouds forming in the north. Parts of the Sierras have already had snow. If it snows they may require chains or close the roads. The 198 is super windey under the best of circumstances. Take the northern route in if you suspect the weather, though the southern route from 3 Rivers is more scenic. It will be much cooler because of the elevation. Bring warm clothes. If you are not used to the elevation, be kind to yourself and take your time. Drink more water than you think. Also, be careful around water, lots of people drown every year. You would think it was common sense but people often climb over and past signs (says the person who tromped through frozen streams in Wawona with a crazy dog). Also bring maps, do not take shortcuts with your car's GPS and do not depend on your phone. Keep extra water in your car in case you are stranded. Insofar as sites, Moro rock is beautiful and the view is spectacular. My dad made it to the top with lots of stops, silly man wore moccasins. Be modern, wear hiking or walking shoes. Nearby is the Grant Forest museum. There is a nice short hike through the non famous trees to the base of Moro rock. All of this is close to Wuksachi Village. As I recall, Crystal Cave is a long walk down and requires reservation and a shuttle bus. Boyden Cave is easier to visit and less crowded but far away on the road to King's Canyon. I love both of the groves and the meadows. If you can, visit both groves and one of the meadows. There isn't much elevation gain/loss so you needn't worry about your fitness. The food is so so throughout the park, so pack in some healthy snacks. I think the ice cream at Hume Lake is spectacular, but that is probably because I was camping alone with my girls and the dog and discovered the miracle of refrigeration because we had none. This is a Christian camp at the north end of Hume Lake that has accomodation if you find the park is full. Some of the ranger talks are good and the ones at night often involve fire. If you can, bundle up and go. Have a great time! I went to that camp for a week in 5th and 6th grades! Lots of great memories.
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