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Post by gar on Sept 26, 2017 12:46:59 GMT
Kim Jong Un has accused President Trump of declaring war on his country and says Pyongyang is entitled to shoot down US bombers, even if they're not in NK airspace. This was in response to Trumps tweet that "NK leadership wouldn't be around much longer if they continued their rhetoric" Loose words ramping things up and neither likely to back down and lose face. It's concerning 
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Post by peasapie on Sept 26, 2017 12:52:58 GMT
I honestly have no idea. I hope they both just walk it back. But honestly, KJU & co have been ramping this up for years and no one has a solution.
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Post by maurchclt on Sept 26, 2017 12:53:02 GMT
More than concerning, SCARED!!
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Post by AmandaA on Sept 26, 2017 12:55:05 GMT
I feel like they are two children just looking for an excuse to start a war.... "but he ________ me first mom!" Just like my kids except with them it is touched, looked at, or whatever not shot down a plane, dropped a nuclear bomb......
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Sept 26, 2017 12:56:44 GMT
We have two man babies in charge of countries with devastating weapons engaged in some bullshit pissing contest. It's both ridiculous and frightening.
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Post by gar on Sept 26, 2017 13:03:16 GMT
We have two man babies in charge of countries with devastating weapons engaged in some bullshit pissing contest. It's both ridiculous and frightening. I have to agree. I want to believe that common sense will prevail, that others will have some influence and tone it all down but I don't know enough to know if that's likely or realistic. I sincerely hope it is - that they'll both realise there's too much to lose. I do agree with peasapie that KJU has been ramping it up for years but while there hasn't been a solution, things weren't escalating at the rate they are now! |
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Post by anniebygaslight on Sept 26, 2017 13:21:49 GMT
Two nutters locking horns. It could go either way.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 26, 2017 13:29:05 GMT
Two nutters locking horns. It could go either way. yea We could go to war Or I suppose he could become Trumps new bestie and the POTUSwill be telling us what a great relationship our 2 nations could have if only we would listen to him. But the status quo of ignoring the temper tantrums of North Korean leaders and banding together with other world leaders is off the table. Our POTUS is incapable of diplomacy like that. |
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Sept 26, 2017 13:42:18 GMT
We have two man babies in charge of countries with devastating weapons engaged in some bullshit pissing contest. It's both ridiculous and frightening. I have to agree. I want to believe that common sense will prevail, that others will have some influence and tone it all down but I don't know enough to know if that's likely or realistic. I sincerely hope it is - that they'll both realise there's too much to lose. I do agree with peasapie that KJU has been ramping it up for years but while there hasn't been a solution, things weren't escalating at the rate they are now! NK has been a problem for previous administrations and would've been a problem no matter who was elected this go around. It's unfortunate that the worst possible candidate was elected. I wouldn't fault him if no progress was made with NK - but he's actively poking the hornet's nest and dangerously escalating an already tenuous situation. |
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Post by thundergal on Sept 26, 2017 14:50:04 GMT
Agree with @gar and pudgygroundhogAlso, I was thinking this morning while watching the news that Bush and the GOP used the fact that we were at war as a reason for people to vote for them again in 2004. And I can't help but wonder if trump has also considered that. He may think that being at war might make him more electable in 2020. And no one will ever convince me that winning reelection isn't more important to him than lives...any lives...including Americans. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 26, 2017 14:56:53 GMT
Agree with @gar and pudgygroundhogAlso, I was thinking this morning while watching the news that Bush and the GOP used the fact that we were at war as a reason for people to vote for them again in 2004. And I can't help but wonder if trump has also considered that. He may think that being at war might make him more electable in 2020. And no one will ever convince me that winning reelection isn't more important to him than lives...any lives...including Americans. Yes, I do think Trump desperately WANTS a war on his term. It's profitable for him and his buddies, it helps to pander to his base, and he thinks it will make him look good. He likely is one of those who thinks being shot by guns doesn't hurt, and casualties won't affect his family so he's all in--he has no problem sacrificing anyone else. He also needs reminded that his assumption that war would only take place IN NK--on their ground is not mutually exclusive, war can happen right here on our soil as well. |
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Post by gar on Sept 26, 2017 15:19:16 GMT
. Our POTUS is incapable of diplomacy like that. That's what worries me - he has no diplomacy skills nor any interest in conducting himself in a more civilised fashion, he's just meeting KJU at his level. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 15:37:41 GMT
. Our POTUS is incapable of diplomacy like that. That's what worries me - he has no diplomacy skills nor any interest in conducting himself in a more civilised fashion, he's just meeting KJU at his level. One is no better than the other IMO. I'm not sure which one is the more unstable of the two. Any sane person would think "I'll be the better person and not bring myself down to that level" but it doesn't seem that Trump has the ability to do that which considering the position he's in as President, you would expect him to do so. Threatening to wipe a country out isn't going to work .....what the heck is Trump going to do when Russia and China will get in on the act? That is the worrying thing about all this. He's poking the puppy expecting only the puppy to bite back. He needs to seriously think of who else is going to join that puppy but there again he probably doesn't care, all he wants to do is win, whatever the cost is to anyone else. |
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Sept 26, 2017 16:33:41 GMT
It is only a question of who loses it first.
It will come down to something random, a pi$$ing contest, a "minder" (as ineffective as they seem to be on both sides) being MIA on any given day. What a sad thought. The two man babies thoroughly deserve each other but the rest of humanity will be collateral damage.
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Post by casii on Sept 26, 2017 16:54:22 GMT
It is only a question of who loses it first. It will come down to something random, a pi$$ing contest, a "minder" (as ineffective as they seem to be on both sides) being MIA on any given day. What a sad thought. The two man babies thoroughly deserve each other but the rest of humanity will be collateral damage. Yes, as we've seen before, if one day Trump sounds coherent and logical, it's because he's been reined in. The minute he's left to his own devices, we find out what he really thinks and it's always a shit show. Pardon my French. It will be sad that true war may erupt because the pissing contest comes down to a tweet while someone is feeling constipated. |
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Post by suzastampin on Sept 26, 2017 17:12:21 GMT
Agree with @gar and pudgygroundhog Also, I was thinking this morning while watching the news that Bush and the GOP used the fact that we were at war as a reason for people to vote for them again in 2004. And I can't help but wonder if trump has also considered that. He may think that being at war might make him more electable in 2020. And no one will ever convince me that winning reelection isn't more important to him than lives...any lives...including Americans. IF we are around in 2020 to vote. Hillary was right when she said we didn't want this man with the nuclear codes. I have never worried what a president would do before Trump. He's all about winning (Charley Sheen) and be damned what happens to all of us. I'm sure he thinks his buddy Putin will be on his side, but I think he will have a rude awakening. Trump may have the best Generals, but that doesn't mean he will listen to them. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 17:27:34 GMT
I don't know what the answer is, but we cannot just sit back and wait for that frickin' despicable, evil POS KJU to send his missles our way. Otto Warmbier's parents gave an interview this morning on Fox. InterviewWhen Otto first came home, there was barely any information given on exactly what happened to him. I thought maybe we would never know. And I really wondered why NK even sent him home. For a New York minute I thought well, they were going to let him die with his family. Now knowing more about the condition he was in--fat fuck KJU, IMO, was sending the US a message. NK couldn't even cover up his condition so IMO they absolutely wanted us to know what they did. I'm so sick to my stomach. Trump's a loose cannon. But there is no frickin way KJU will ever be anything less than barbaric and evil. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 26, 2017 17:38:06 GMT
Agree with @gar and pudgygroundhog Also, I was thinking this morning while watching the news that Bush and the GOP used the fact that we were at war as a reason for people to vote for them again in 2004. And I can't help but wonder if trump has also considered that. He may think that being at war might make him more electable in 2020. And no one will ever convince me that winning reelection isn't more important to him than lives...any lives...including Americans. IF we are around in 2020 to vote. Hillary was right when she said we didn't want this man with the nuclear codes. I have never worried what a president would do before Trump. He's all about winning (Charley Sheen) and be damned what happens to all of us. I'm sure he thinks his buddy Putin will be on his side, but I think he will have a rude awakening. Trump may have the best Generals, but that doesn't mean he will listen to them. Once the buttons are pushed, Putin will have his wishes filled, we will not be here and neither will North Korea... probably South Korea and Japan will be gone, might take parts of Canada, Mexico and China. |
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