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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 3:27:38 GMT
"In the wake of a slew of allegations of sexual harassment, assault and rape that have emerged over the last 10 days, Harvey Weinstein has been expelled from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, the organization that hosts and votes for the Oscars, with which he was virtually synonymous throughout his four decades in the business. Since its founding in 1927, the Academy has only previously expelled one other member: Carmine Caridi, an actor who violated policy against loaning out screeners... Now, though, the Academy will face more difficult decisions: how to deal with the not inconsiderable number of others among its membership of 8,427 who have checkered pasts of their own and who now are being targeted by those who want to purge the industry of sexual predators." www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/harvey-weinstein-is-but-academy-decide-how-deal-members-who-behave-badly-1048923
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 15, 2017 15:46:44 GMT
I read that his own brother said he should be ousted and banned.
Let's hope that they continue calling out these a-holes and giving them suitable repercussions.
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Post by allison1954 on Oct 15, 2017 15:52:55 GMT
Yet Roman Polanski and Bill Cosby are still in.
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Post by refugeepea on Oct 15, 2017 16:07:25 GMT
Yet Roman Polanski and Bill Cosby are still in. A convicted child rapist who fled the country. He wins an Oscar to standing applause.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Oct 15, 2017 16:52:58 GMT
Yet Roman Polanski and Bill Cosby are still in. I was JUST thinking this.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 15, 2017 17:10:35 GMT
Weinstein actively campaigned for Polanski to be released when arrested in Switzerland in 2009 and facing extradition to the US. Woody Allen is another predator he helped. Schwarzeneggar is another name to add to the list of sexual harrassers & predators. He admits to getting "rowdy" on ocassion. I'm wondering if with the quick decision to remove Weinstein, the Academy is hoping people will applaud the action and forget about the others? ETA Source of quotes PBS Newshour article
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Post by oaksong on Oct 15, 2017 17:33:17 GMT
It's about damn time. It's not just women that are targeted, but men and children. So disgusting.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Oct 15, 2017 17:44:24 GMT
Weinstein activiely campaigned for Polanski to be released when arrested in Switzerland in 2009 and facing extradition to the US. Woody Allen is another predator he helped. Schwarzeneggar is another name to add to the list of sexual harrassers & predators. He admits to getting "rowdy" on ocassion. I'm wondering if with the quick decision to remove Weinstein, the Academy is hoping people will applaud the action and forget about the others? ETA Source of quotes PBS Newshour article Makes more sense now, not so? I have the same feeling about the Academy as I have about some of the reporters (yep, still on the same tirade, still smarting but resolute) too little, too late, guys.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Oct 15, 2017 18:28:10 GMT
Yet Roman Polanski and Bill Cosby are still in. A convicted child rapist who fled the country. He wins an Oscar to standing applause. This. I remember watching that when it happened and being disgusted with the whole of Hollywood. When this all broke I was wondering why now? Then I realized who the author of the expose in The New Yorker was. Started to make a lot more sense then.
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Post by valleyview on Oct 15, 2017 18:45:05 GMT
Don't forget to add Oliver Stone.
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Post by smasonnc on Oct 15, 2017 19:53:31 GMT
If they ban all the perpetrators, who will be left to make movies?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 20:13:38 GMT
If they ban all the perpetrators, who will be left to make movies? Oh, I don't know. WOMEN! ??!? Not that women are perfect, but FFS, give us a couple thousand years to dominate the world and see how we go. We can't do much worse.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 21:36:16 GMT
As long as there is casting, there is going to be casting couches in one way or another, mental and/or physical.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 15, 2017 23:38:20 GMT
As long as there is casting, there is going to be casting couches in one way or another, mental and/or physical. Not if women are believed when they speak up. The corporate world used to be Mad Men and Good Girls Revolt and, IME, that isn't the way offices operate today. Sure there are corporate cultures like Fox News still, but they aren't the norm anymore. SaveSave
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 15, 2017 23:38:57 GMT
If they ban all the perpetrators, who will be left to make movies? SaveSave
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Post by pyccku on Oct 16, 2017 0:11:58 GMT
Yeah, this isn't a Hollywood thing. There have always been good old boys who take advantage of their power to get a little something on the side. Everyone turns a blind eye because 'boys will be boys' and 'it's just locker room talk' and all that.
When a woman speaks up, it's assumed that she just wants money. So women don't speak up, because they aren't believed. Then when a bunch of them all speak up at once, it's assumed that they are all after money. You just can't win, so the men get away with it.
ETA: When someone mentions 'rape culture' - this is what they're talking about. The woman is discredited and questioned, and many times just quietly goes on her own way.
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Post by leslie132 on Oct 16, 2017 1:00:28 GMT
With all of this talk going on it reminds me of the two child actors from the 90's Corey Hamm and Cory? They were "rumored" to be passed around Hollywood as young actors and it wrecked havoc on them. It made me sick that there could be such sickness in Hollywood and enough cowards to cover it. I know it's not the same but it's very similar IMO!!!
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Post by zella on Oct 16, 2017 1:20:36 GMT
I say this every time we hear about bad behavior in Hollywood.
I've known, still do know, people on the fringes of Hollywood or fully in it. And what I have heard from these people is that virtually EVERYONE in Hollywood is a colossal ass. These are nasty people, people that, if you knew what they were really like, you'd be appalled and disappointed by. They aren't people you'd want as friends or neighbors.
There are a few who are genuine. But it is a very small minority. Very few. Hollywood attracts a certain type of person and rewards bad behavior of all kinds.
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Post by scrapngranny on Oct 16, 2017 1:43:01 GMT
I have been sort of puzzled why Harvey Weinstein has been singled out so loudly, when sexual harassment has been an integral part of Hollywood since its inception. His behavior was disgraceful, but he is certainly not the only one guilty of this practice.
Will others now be outed and given the same harsh consequences? Will Hollywood really clean house and stop the pervasive sexual harassment, and publicly denounce the offenders, or did Weinstein cross the wrong people and is being destroyed for other reasons.
Hollywood will certainly be better without him.
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Post by gillyp on Oct 16, 2017 2:04:19 GMT
As long as there is casting, there is going to be casting couches in one way or another, mental and/or physical. Not if women are believed when they speak up. The corporate world used to be Mad Men and Good Girls Revolt and, IME, that isn't the way offices operate today. Sure there are corporate cultures like Fox News still, but they aren't the norm anymore. SaveSaveIn every business I’ve worked in there have been predatory males and the women don’t speak up because they are scared they will lose their jobs or they see an alliance as a way to an easier life in the work place. It was certainly still happening when I left banking 11 years ago and I believe it is still happening now.
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Post by **Angie** on Oct 16, 2017 3:13:00 GMT
Yet Roman Polanski and Bill Cosby are still in. Have any "big name" actresses accused either of them? I think Weinstein is only getting this *appropriately* heavy treatment because of the actresses that are accusing him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 4:34:40 GMT
It's GREAT that this is a topic on social media, but Hollywood is just the beginning. This has been going on forever, in ALL forms of work and life, with anyone in the position of power who happens to be a douche. I hope they all pay!!
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Post by gillyp on Oct 16, 2017 6:24:54 GMT
It's GREAT that this is a topic on social media, but Hollywood is just the beginning. This has been going on forever, in ALL forms of work and life, with anyone in the position of power who happens to be a douche. I hope they all pay!! This. However, the sleazeballs won’t all pay and to be quite honest I don’t believe it will stop, either. This will continue to happen because it’s pretty much a fact of life in some work areas, regrettably. It’s not just men either, there are predatory females in power too. I have been propositioned in the workplace a couple of times when younger and have spent an awards dinner with a senior manager’s hand on my leg, which was as far as anything went and which I moved away from whenever I could. In Weinstein’s case it’s not his actions which anger me (and they do, a lot) so much as his whining that he’s sorry and needs help. Had the first woman not spoken out and had others not joined her he would still be doing it.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Oct 16, 2017 6:50:25 GMT
One little bit of perfectly timed justice to share with all of you who have been harassed #metoo Our on site project office was designed on the "hub and spoke" system, all radiating off the central core where the co-ordinator/ receptionist sat. I had been harassed by a certain B for about three months, on and off. Our HR manager sat on his butt at cushy head office and did zip, zero, nada about my complaints. Our PM was a good friend of B, same level of non-action. He believed me, he just didn't want to act. I had just come back from working overseas, the assignment was temporary and I needed to work my way back into the local org, so I was trying to stick it out. The only other woman, incidentally, was the said co-ordinator and she was B's girlfriend at the time, hated and did not believe me. I was the only one in the co-ord office, sending a fax, I heard someone coming into the central area and then B was looming over me, saying something awful and just about to do something when the CEO, who was on an unannounced visit to site, appeared from one of the other spokes. It was a very satisfying process after that. I send all of the #metoo peas good thoughts. ETA: I should have posted on Really Red 's thread.
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Post by gar on Oct 16, 2017 8:13:28 GMT
One little bit of perfectly timed justice to share with all of you who have been harassed #metoo Our on site project office was designed on the "hub and spoke" system, all radiating off the central core where the co-ordinator/ receptionist sat. I had been harassed by a certain B for about three months, on and off. Our HR manager sat on his butt at cushy head office and did zip, zero, nada about my complaints. Our PM was a good friend of B, same level of non-action. He believed me, he just didn't want to act. I had just come back from working overseas, the assignment was temporary and I needed to work my way back into the local org, so I was trying to stick it out. The only other woman, incidentally, was the said co-ordinator and she was B's girlfriend at the time, hated and did not believe me. I was the only one in the co-ord office, sending a fax, I heard someone coming into the central area and then B was looming over me, saying something awful and just about to do something when the CEO, who was on an unannounced visit to site, appeared from one of the other spokes. It was a very satisfying process after that. I send all of the #metoo peas good thoughts. ETA: I should have posted on Really Red 's thread. Sounds like you had a narrow escape! Sadly I'm sure you're far rom alone
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Post by peabay on Oct 16, 2017 11:20:53 GMT
If they keep going with this, the Academy is going to be pretty pretty pretty empty. (channeling Larry David.)
I'm sure there are a lot of people in Hollywood, male, female, gay and straight who are up all night rethinking many of their encounters over the years.
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Post by imsirius on Oct 16, 2017 14:12:58 GMT
With all of this talk going on it reminds me of the two child actors from the 90's Corey Hamm and Cory? They were "rumored" to be passed around Hollywood as young actors and it wrecked havoc on them. It made me sick that there could be such sickness in Hollywood and enough cowards to cover it. I know it's not the same but it's very similar IMO!!! Corey Feldman was just on Tyler Henry's show. He spoke about it. Said he wants to out someone who is a child predator in Hollywood for decades. Both he and Corey Haim were victims but there are hundreds. Said the person is still doing it but everyone's afraid to speak out. Mabe this will help him and give him the courage.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 15:26:53 GMT
With all of this talk going on it reminds me of the two child actors from the 90's Corey Hamm and Cory? They were "rumored" to be passed around Hollywood as young actors and it wrecked havoc on them. It made me sick that there could be such sickness in Hollywood and enough cowards to cover it. I know it's not the same but it's very similar IMO!!! Corey Feldman was just on Tyler Henry's show. He spoke about it. Said he wants to out someone who is a child predator in Hollywood for decades. Both he and Corey Haim were victims but there are hundreds. Said the person is still doing it but everyone's afraid to speak out. Mabe this will help him and give him the courage. God I hope so. Save
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Post by oh yvonne on Oct 16, 2017 16:36:52 GMT
I remember the Corey's stories were met with skepticism because of their drug abuse problems, etc. So I sort of get why they were dismissed, they seemed to enjoy that life when they were young. It sad what happened to them, I don't doubt their stories at all.
I won't forgive ol' Meryl Streep standing in enraptured at the thought of Roman Polanski being given an Oscar. I was a fan of hers since I was a teen, and that disappointed me so much.
The continued adoration of Woody Allen sickens me. I remember I even started a thread, I was so outraged about all the evidence against him. He was defended here, and it totally disgusts me. He's such a 'comedic genuis' etc. Does he still get a pass? My God even a Judge ruled against him with relationship with his daughter, it was what was it? Concerning, unnatural or something? Creepy, depraved man. He should be a pariah, every much as that fat bastard should be.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 18:40:41 GMT
With all of this talk going on it reminds me of the two child actors from the 90's Corey Hamm and Cory? They were "rumored" to be passed around Hollywood as young actors and it wrecked havoc on them. It made me sick that there could be such sickness in Hollywood and enough cowards to cover it. I know it's not the same but it's very similar IMO!!! Corey Feldman was just on Tyler Henry's show. He spoke about it. Said he wants to out someone who is a child predator in Hollywood for decades. Both he and Corey Haim were victims but there are hundreds. Said the person is still doing it but everyone's afraid to speak out. Mabe this will help him and give him the courage. There's a video circulating on line of him as a guest on "The View" think it was 2013 when he said it had happened to him and Barbara Walters dismissed his allegations and told him he was "damaging an entire industry" He also said that the abuse was the reason that Corey Haim turned to drugs. Which actually makes sense as I think most drug addicts turn to drugs to " forget" something in their past or to escape reality. Can't find the link to the video at the moment but will link it when I find it. ETA
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