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Post by sunraynnc on Oct 21, 2017 1:59:02 GMT
But Weinstein still doesn't think he needs treatment?
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Post by scrapqueen01 on Oct 21, 2017 2:05:02 GMT
People who don't think they have a problem don't think they need treatment. It's common with alcoholics/other addicts until they hit bottom. To us it looks like he can't get any lower. He doesn't see it yet.
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Post by YooHoot on Oct 21, 2017 2:05:39 GMT
I thought I read he was checking himself into rehab?
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Post by 950nancy on Oct 21, 2017 2:19:26 GMT
I thought I read he was checking himself into rehab? That is what I thought too. Perhaps he just said this to get out trouble initially and now that he is in deep, he's bailing. I hope he gets nailed. |
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Post by PLurker on Oct 21, 2017 2:24:27 GMT
People who don't think they have a problem don't think they need treatment. It's common with alcoholics/other addicts until they hit bottom. To us it looks like he can't get any lower. He doesn't see it yet. Perhaps he doesn't see it yet because it's normal to him. His normal. Yuk. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 21, 2017 2:27:17 GMT
After hearing the stories I don't understand why more people didn't say something sooner. He is a creep of epic proportions. I know he owned a company but still warn other women.
I also thought I read that he had checked himself into rehab but if he doesn't think he has done nothing wrong or doesn't think he has a problem then it won't help. He kept saying it was consentual but I don't think he understands the meaning of the word and what normal is. I think I would have run out of the room screaming if he did some of the things I heard that he did and I certainly would warn a friend if she was going to have to deal with him.
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Oct 21, 2017 3:16:43 GMT
Narcissist.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Oct 21, 2017 3:25:38 GMT
I don't think he needs treatment, he needs jail time.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 21, 2017 3:31:12 GMT
He is only going to treatment to appease those saying he has a problem and set himself up for his second chance and return to Hollywood. It probably never occurred to him he'd be required to participate in a program and admit to a problem when he signed himself into rehab.
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Post by dewryce on Oct 21, 2017 4:01:51 GMT
But isn't he in sex addiction rehab? He rapes and assaults women. How is that sex addiction?
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Post by anniebygaslight on Oct 21, 2017 4:12:25 GMT
I thought he was playing the misunderstood victim by pretending that he needed treatment and sympathy rather than punishment.
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Post by gar on Oct 21, 2017 7:17:51 GMT
I didn't know there was a treatment for being a sexual predator and asshole of epic proportions. He probably thought it'd get him the sympathy vote and he could work his way back into Hollywood.
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Post by miominmio on Oct 21, 2017 8:16:47 GMT
But Weinstein still doesn't think he needs treatment? He doesn't need treatment, he needs jail time. |
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Post by Peamac on Oct 21, 2017 12:45:00 GMT
I strongly agree with ALL of the above comments!
I imagine his thinking was: Check myself into rehab to get sympathy and get out of Dodge while the heat is on. Oops, that makes me look like I'm saying that I did something I shouldn't have. Better backtrack a bit so I'm not "admitting" that I'm legally liable for my actions. Meh- I'll just wait for the lawyers to figure it out, that's why I pay them the big bucks.
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Post by anonrefugee on Oct 21, 2017 13:35:30 GMT
After hearing the stories I don't understand why more people didn't say something sooner. He is a creep of epic proportions. I know he owned a company but still warn other women. I don't understand that either, and it bothers me. I understand those starting out not speaking up at the time - I don't get how they kept quiet years later, after they've been successful for a long time. Gwyneth Paltrow is being praised, yet she could have been vocal at least a decade ago. Especially when you consider her family in the business. Isn't Steven Spielberg her Godfather? In the Penn State scandal we condemned the staff that was aware, or had a suspicion, and did nothing until it was widely known. Those people didn't have agents and a PR company supporting them. This time we're calling them heroes for speaking out after it already became news. |
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Oct 21, 2017 14:31:29 GMT
After hearing the stories I don't understand why more people didn't say something sooner. He is a creep of epic proportions. I know he owned a company but still warn other women. I don't understand that either, and it bothers me. I understand those starting out not speaking up at the time - I don't get how they kept quiet years later, after they've been successful for a long time. Gwyneth Paltrow is being praised, yet she could have been vocal at least a decade ago. Especially when you consider her family in the business. Isn't Steven Spielberg her Godfather? In the Penn State scandal we condemned the staff that was aware, or had a suspicion, and did nothing until it was widely known. Those people didn't have agents and a PR company supporting them. This time we're calling them heroes for speaking out after it already became news. I agree about Gwyneth P. I do not think she should be praised at all. I said as much, actually more, on the thread when Hw's story first broke and I took a pea beating. I agreed with some of them and said so, others, NSM. Pealand is like that. My point had to do with GP saying she was harassed (?) or worse when doing the lead for Emma. She then went back years later and did Shakespeare in love. I was not victim shaming, at least I did not intend to. I was querying how on earth a woman could voluntarily embrace, literally embrace, her tormentor. I am not as familiar with the Penn state scandal but I take your point. |
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Post by busy on Oct 21, 2017 14:39:22 GMT
I think the Penn State scandal is an entirely different scenario because the people being maligned for not coming forward are not the victims.
I’m never going to judge a victim for whether or not they want to come forward. It’s complicated, scary, and they are generally inviting widespread abuse.
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Post by anonrefugee on Oct 21, 2017 16:03:54 GMT
I think the Penn State scandal is an entirely different scenario because the people being maligned for not coming forward are not the victims. I’m never going to judge a victim for whether or not they want to come forward. It’s complicated, scary, and they are generally inviting widespread abuse. I agree with you about being complicated. I am in a male dominated field and it took me a few days to even post #metoo for concern of what long term colleagues would think. Maybe I shouldn't have followed Gwyneth comment with the Penn State comment. However, there are people speaking out who were not his victims but in the know. They aren't heroic after keeping a secret for decades while they had power themselves. I'll just have to agree to disagree with those that feel that's acceptable. ETA busy I'm not directing my agree to disagree comment at you. I should probably stop typing. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Oct 21, 2017 16:07:35 GMT
I thought he was playing the misunderstood victim by pretending that he needed treatment and sympathy rather than punishment. Yes, and probably at the advice of a very expensive team of attorneys, who will try to spin this. |
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Post by pyccku on Oct 21, 2017 16:48:48 GMT
He's here in AZ, not far from where I live. I didn't realize that the facility treated rape addiction, I guess that's useful info.
He's a creep who should be in jail.
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Post by busy on Oct 21, 2017 21:38:39 GMT
I think the Penn State scandal is an entirely different scenario because the people being maligned for not coming forward are not the victims. I’m never going to judge a victim for whether or not they want to come forward. It’s complicated, scary, and they are generally inviting widespread abuse. I agree with you about being complicated. I am in a male dominated field and it took me a few days to even post #metoo for concern of what long term colleagues would think. Maybe I shouldn't have followed Gwyneth comment with the Penn State comment. However, there are people speaking out who were not his victims but in the know. They aren't heroic after keeping a secret for decades while they had power themselves. I'll just have to agree to disagree with those that feel that's acceptable. ETA busy I'm not directing my agree to disagree comment at you. I should probably stop typing. I guess I haven’t seen any non-victims being praised for coming forward. People like Tarantino who said he knew enough that he should have done something but didn’t... he’s been pretty thoroughly dragged, as far as I’ve seen. Those people aren’t heroes. I do hope that their stories open the eyes of others - that we have responsibilities to each other and we shouldn’t turn a blind eye when we see suspicious patterns. But they shouldn’t be lauded for “bravery” in coming forward. |
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