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Post by librarylady on Oct 26, 2017 18:17:23 GMT
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Post by busy on Oct 26, 2017 18:31:09 GMT
My son would be happy to conduct a lecture on the topic
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Post by GiantsFan on Oct 26, 2017 19:24:07 GMT
Without reading your article - I think it has something to do with the shape of the tail (one is rounder and the other squared) and possibly the color (one is black-black and the other is purple-ish-black) ? ? Maybe the shape of the beak too???
Although I don't know which is which. They are all "crows" to me.
Edited to add. I just read the article and I was close.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 26, 2017 19:28:49 GMT
actually, this is really interesting to me right now! We have (HUGE!!) Chihuahuan Ravens that travel through here, and I just started seeing them again a couple days ago. Next time I see one, I will definitely have to pay closer attention to what they sound like and how they walk / fly.
(eta: after googling, maybe they're not Chihuahuan Ravens after all, because Google says they're intermediate between ravens and crows in size. yup, I think what we have around here are common ravens, not the Chihuahuan ones. )
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Post by 950nancy on Oct 26, 2017 19:29:56 GMT
I saw the ravens at the Tower in London and have been fascinated with them since. They are huge.
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Post by lindas on Oct 26, 2017 19:44:19 GMT
Ravens are a football team that's been playing like a bunch of old crows lately.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 20:05:34 GMT
It's a matter of a pinion.
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Post by katlady on Oct 26, 2017 20:12:35 GMT
I just know ravens are HUGE! Both are gorgeous birds!
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Oct 26, 2017 20:37:35 GMT
So timely... About to renew an old friendship with one of the Ravens at the Tower, Merlina.
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Post by jayfab on Oct 26, 2017 20:42:04 GMT
Very interesting, thanks.
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Post by Nink on Oct 26, 2017 20:45:31 GMT
Am I the only one that thought they were just different names for the same bird? Probably so. 😖
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Post by breetheflea on Oct 26, 2017 20:54:20 GMT
Raven's are the one's saying "Nevermore," while Crows just say "ca-caw?"...
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Post by Lexica on Oct 26, 2017 21:53:25 GMT
That was interesting, thank you.
We had a really strange experience in our backyard when I was a child. Very early in the morning, a large black bird that we thought was a crow landed on the grass area and was obviously very sick. It was making noises and fluttering around, then laying down and calling out. It was very upsetting. Being a bird lover, I went out to see if there was anything about the bird that I could fix. I've removed fishing line and hooks from birds over the years, and wanted to know if I could help this bird. I couldn't see anything tangling it up and my mom told me not to touch it without gloves on. I went back inside and we all stood in the window upstairs watching this poor bird. I was in tears because I could see it suffering.
Then suddenly, there were dozens of big crows (or ravens?) on all of the wires and in the trees in surrounding my backyard. They were all calling out and one or two of them would fly down to the bird on the ground and check it out. The rest of the birds were making one heck of a noise. Once again, the bird on the ground fell over to its side. All of the birds stopped making noise at once. They just looked, as my whole family was doing from the upstairs window. Everything was deadly silent. Then one bird flew down to the ground, looked the bird over, and flew back to the wires. Seconds later, every bird in the yard flew away at once. It was the strangest thing I'd ever seen regarding birds. My little sister said that the dying bird was the king of the crows, and that someone must have poisoned him. Once he died and they all flew away, she decided it was to vote on a new king.
I went out back again and dug a huge hole in the planters and buried the bird, picking it up with gloves on just in case it had something that could hurt me. I've never seen crows all upset en masse like that before. I was impressed that they all seemed to realize this bird was dying and it was obviously very upsetting to them. I had also never seen that many crows in the area, so they had to have all gotten the news and came together to witness this crow die. It was so odd, yet so touching at the same time. I wondered how they knew it was actually dead, because it had been moving and stopping all the while it was down there. I also wondered how they became aware of its distress, and what made them come to witness it. When it was making noises, it wasn't very loud. Not loud enough to carry to wherever these crows were anyway.
Where I live now, I see many crows or ravens daily. There is a very large area of eucalyptus trees near my house and it is frequently filled with crows.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Oct 26, 2017 21:58:40 GMT
DH grew up in the Yukon. Ravens there are ENORMOUS!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 26, 2017 22:04:10 GMT
With West Nile virus the crows are all gone here!!
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Post by katlady on Oct 26, 2017 22:04:59 GMT
Then suddenly, there were dozens of big crows (or ravens?) on all of the wires and in the trees in surrounding my backyard. They were all calling out and one or two of them would fly down to the bird on the ground and check it out. The rest of the birds were making one heck of a noise. Once again, the bird on the ground fell over to its side. All of the birds stopped making noise at once. They just looked, as my whole family was doing from the upstairs window. Everything was deadly silent. Then one bird flew down to the ground, looked the bird over, and flew back to the wires. Seconds later, every bird in the yard flew away at once. It was the strangest thing I'd ever seen regarding birds. My little sister said that the dying bird was the king of the crows, and that someone must have poisoned him. Once he died and they all flew away, she decided it was to vote on a new king. I read once that when crows do this they are remembering where their fellow crow died so they can avoid the place, or see if there is something there that killed the crow (like an animal or human). They associate it with danger. And crows usually stay together in groups. We get so many of them around dusk as they are making their way to where ever they sleep for the night. Sometimes there are a ton of them on the rooftops of the homes here. Crows and Ravens are very smart.
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Post by Dreamsofnyssa on Oct 26, 2017 22:06:47 GMT
Now I know for sure that the super loud birds that sit above the hospital entrance are indeed ravens. Which makes it even more creepy.
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Post by camcas on Oct 27, 2017 0:54:56 GMT
We have mostly crows in Australia When We were kids I used to taunt my younger brother by telling him the crows were calling his name....” mark mark mark” Who am I kidding.... I still tell him that!
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Post by Zee on Oct 27, 2017 0:55:41 GMT
Crows and ravens are so smart. Really cool birds.
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Post by LeaP on Oct 27, 2017 1:03:37 GMT
Thanks for sharing, my neighborhood is full of crows, but I suspect that it is ravens that soar in our nearby mountains. We also have a couple of hawks around the neighborhood. Pretty good for semi-suburban Los Angeles <- people from rural areas think of my neighborhood as urban, being from New York City I think of it as suburbia, the answer is probably somewhere in the middle.
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Post by ~Susan~ on Oct 27, 2017 2:39:53 GMT
Actually my DD and I were talking about this earlier this week. I meant to look it up myself, but you saved me the trouble ☺
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Post by phoenixcov on Oct 27, 2017 10:11:34 GMT
I know they`re not the same birds but I live by a Rookery and very often sit outside and watch the spectacular flying in the sky as they come home to roost.
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Post by missbennet on Oct 27, 2017 12:51:25 GMT
The way I've always differentiated them is socialness - crows travel in a group and hang out together; ravens are more solitary. I don't think ravens ever flock like the way crows do. I looked to see if this was mentioned in the article and didn't see it, but that's what a friend who is a wildlife biologist told me.
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