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Post by peano on Nov 17, 2017 4:57:34 GMT
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Peamac
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Post by Peamac on Nov 17, 2017 5:25:34 GMT
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Post by betty on Nov 17, 2017 5:48:54 GMT
 Try having a last name that starts and ends with an S. Then try to order something in the plural or possessive tense. Say a random fictional name like SMOKES... The SMOKES' family Christmas day...seems simple enough. HA!! Good luck with that! I had to reorder the same monogrammed metal bucket 4 times with 3 different mistakes for our wedding. "SMOKESES, SMOKE'S, SMOKES Wedding day and date" ..and we got to keep the mistakes! So we have used them for 18 yrs to hold plants and firewood, catch water during a roof leak, hold ice & drinks, etc. These misspelled buckets are now a permanent fixture (and teaching moment) of our lives. 
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The Birdhouse Lady
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Nov 17, 2017 6:15:03 GMT
 Crap! I'm guilty of this AND I've already ordered our Chritmas cards for this year.  |
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anniebygaslight
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Post by anniebygaslight on Nov 17, 2017 6:45:55 GMT
I have already got my apostrophiser revved up.
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chendra
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Post by chendra on Nov 17, 2017 7:02:04 GMT
I once asked a coworker whose last name is Freeman if I should refer to his family as the Freemans or the Freemen. He just laughed at me and I really wanted to know! I'm going to follow the Wolf example and assume "Freemans".
I do know how to correctly use apostrophes though, so no confusion there.
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Post by gar on Nov 17, 2017 7:25:51 GMT
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 17, 2017 7:30:14 GMT
funsucker!
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Post by Kymberlee on Nov 17, 2017 7:50:45 GMT
Seriously, this is bugging me. I think I should leave off the apostrophe for this but I’m totally second guessing myself. Is it Christmas at the Smith’s (as in the Smith’s house) or Christmas at the Smiths (just more than one Smith). I’ve seen wrong so often that I have no idea anymore. 🤔
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Post by gar on Nov 17, 2017 8:59:27 GMT
Seriously, this is bugging me. I think I should leave off the apostrophe for this but I’m totally second guessing myself. Is it Christmas at the Smith’s (as in the Smith’s house) or Christmas at the Smiths (just more than one Smith). I’ve seen wrong so often that I have no idea anymore. 🤔 If you're wording say, an invite, then 's is correct - "Come and join us for Christmas at the Smith's." or "Come and join us for Christmas with the Smiths." I think!!  |
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Post by Kymberlee on Nov 17, 2017 9:51:26 GMT
I’m actually going to a sign painting party and the sign says Christmas at the Smith’s (with the apostrophe) which I thought was correct and then I thought about it and it seemed not correct and now I’m just all confused about which way is correct. I may just switch it and say Merry Christmas and be done with it. 😲😂
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muggins
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Post by muggins on Nov 17, 2017 10:14:29 GMT
Many years ago I was at a Creative Memories weekend crop. There was a professional monogrammed there to print on the front of people’s albums. He put an apostrophe on every one!!! The Smith’s The Hall’s The Wilcox’s. I kept quiet as I didn’t want anyone to be upset about their album covers. If they didn’t realise, I wasn’t going to tell them.
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Post by gillyp on Nov 17, 2017 10:30:21 GMT
You know what would totally tip me over the edge? An envelope addressed to The Brown's, "The Little Cottage", Any Town. The apostrophe is a pursed-lips-eyebrow-raiser but quotation marks around a house name drives me batshit crazy. It's a name. You don't put quotation marks around your own name do you? Then don't put them around my house name. They are not necessary. Please, they really are not necessary.
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AmeliaBloomer
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Nov 17, 2017 12:55:40 GMT
Seriously, this is bugging me. I think I should leave off the apostrophe for this but I’m totally second guessing myself. Is it Christmas at the Smith’s (as in the Smith’s house) or Christmas at the Smiths (just more than one Smith). I’ve seen wrong so often that I have no idea anymore. 🤔 It would only be "Christmas at the Smith's" if a lone blacksmith lived at your house. And then it would be "Christmas at the smith's," actually. Unless Donald Trump was tweeting it, in which case rules of German apply and all nouns are capitalized. (For your purposes, Christmas at the Smiths works fine - although technically, Smiths' is correct because of the house implication. Just don't do Smith's. Also, don't forget to put in your real last name and not "Smith." LOL.) |
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Post by LisaDV on Nov 17, 2017 13:11:43 GMT
I can't think of anyone I know that does this. However, I'm totally going to be stalking my envelopes and cards this year to see who does.
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Post by pondrunner on Nov 17, 2017 13:22:27 GMT
Seriously, this is bugging me. I think I should leave off the apostrophe for this but I’m totally second guessing myself. Is it Christmas at the Smith’s (as in the Smith’s house) or Christmas at the Smiths (just more than one Smith). I’ve seen wrong so often that I have no idea anymore. 🤔 If you're wording say, an invite, then 's is correct - "Come and join us for Christmas at the Smith's." or "Come and join us for Christmas with the Smiths." I think!! Christmas at the Smiths' if there is more than one Smith. Smith's if it's only one Smith. |
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janeinbama
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Post by janeinbama on Nov 17, 2017 13:23:13 GMT
There is a shoppe in a local boutique that prints the tiles with family names. She puts apostrophe in EVERYTIME!!! I was given one as a gift and I just removed the apostrophe - it left a light place, but could not stand it. I keep wondering how she handles all the other aspects of her business if she doesn't know punctuation rules, what about IRS rules? |
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Post by gar on Nov 17, 2017 13:58:17 GMT
If you're wording say, an invite, then 's is correct - "Come and join us for Christmas at the Smith's." or "Come and join us for Christmas with the Smiths." I think!! Christmas at the Smiths' if there is more than one Smith. Smith's if it's only one Smith. Isn’t Smith, as a family, a singular noun - the Smith Family, their house is the Smith’s house. Unless you mean multiple families called Smith? 😀 |
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Post by pondrunner on Nov 17, 2017 14:02:45 GMT
Christmas at the Smiths' if there is more than one Smith. Smith's if it's only one Smith. Isn’t Smith, as a family, a singular noun - the Smith Family, their house is the Smith’s house. Unless you mean multiple families called Smith? 😀 Yes, it's the Smith family - a collective noun. But Smiths' is a plural possessive and therefore correct in this context. When you take out the word family you change it from a collective noun phrase (Smith family) to a possessive which is either singular (smith's) or plural (Smiths') |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 14:06:32 GMT
Love this!
Our last name ends in -os (Xxxxos, for example) and my husband and I have a long running joke where we pluralize our last name by removing the -os and adding -ii. Our friends just refer to us as "The Xxxxii" now, and I'm pretty sure we used that on our Christmas cards a few years ago!
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milocat
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Post by milocat on Nov 17, 2017 15:03:12 GMT
This writer cringes whether people are making their names irregular nouns or possessive forms. Yet she can't use a space between her two words pretty cringe worthy!
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AmeliaBloomer
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Nov 17, 2017 15:14:41 GMT
gar This is from the Chicago Manual of Style, one of the two major style manuals used in the US: IMPORTANT CONCLUSION: Those Smiths sure throw a lot of parties. I might stop by the Smiths' this weekend when I'm feeling peckish. (Peckish: nod to British English.)
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Post by PaperAngel on Nov 17, 2017 15:30:58 GMT
PSA: If you have an unusual last name, please use "The Doe Family" rather than "The Does;" otherwise, you risk everyone on your mailing list, including family oddly, addressing future correspondence, gifting monogrammed items, etc. with your plural last name (eg. Jane Does). Ugh!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 17, 2017 15:44:02 GMT
If you're wording say, an invite, then 's is correct - "Come and join us for Christmas at the Smith's." or "Come and join us for Christmas with the Smiths." I think!! Christmas at the Smiths' if there is more than one Smith. Smith's if it's only one Smith. Yes, this. I see it written incorrectly so.many.times. I have to just ignore it otherwise my head will explode. |
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Post by scorpeao on Nov 17, 2017 15:53:11 GMT
My SigO's last name is Ramirez. I've given him personalized household items as gifts, and I struggle with the personalization because of that stupid Z. My fix? The Ramirez Family. The Ramirezes looks so wrong to me.
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Post by anniefb on Nov 17, 2017 17:01:29 GMT
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Post by perumbula on Nov 17, 2017 17:07:25 GMT
My SigO's last name is Ramirez. I've given him personalized household items as gifts, and I struggle with the personalization because of that stupid Z. My fix? The Ramirez Family. The Ramirezes looks so wrong to me. That's because you're trying to use English rules on a Spanish word. Writing "The ___________ Family" is such an easy fix I don't know why more people don't do it. My sister has a last name that's a verb and ends in -s. We mostly just speak of them as the __________ family. Pluralizing their name is too many esses for my mouth to handle at once. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 17:09:54 GMT
 Apostrophes used to show plural form make me Love, The Zingermack's
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Post by scorpeao on Nov 17, 2017 17:14:40 GMT
My SigO's last name is Ramirez. I've given him personalized household items as gifts, and I struggle with the personalization because of that stupid Z. My fix? The Ramirez Family. The Ramirezes looks so wrong to me. That's because you're trying to use English rules on a Spanish word. Writing "The ___________ Family" is such an easy fix I don't know why more people don't do it. My sister has a last name that's a verb and ends in -s. We mostly just speak of them as the __________ family. Pluralizing their name is too many esses for my mouth to handle at once. I posted the link on FB and a friend chimed in that when she got married she had to look up how to make her new last name plural....The Bushes. I laughed. That's a funny one and I'd pluralize the F out of it. |
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anniebygaslight
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Post by anniebygaslight on Nov 17, 2017 18:00:14 GMT
Christmas at the Smiths' if there is more than one Smith. Smith's if it's only one Smith. Isn’t Smith, as a family, a singular noun - the Smith Family, their house is the Smith’s house. Unless you mean multiple families called Smith? 😀 Yep. |
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Apostrophes used to show plural form make me