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Post by canadianscrappergirl on Dec 31, 2017 0:42:30 GMT
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Post by Zee on Dec 31, 2017 0:46:16 GMT
I saw it last night and I'm so disgusted and angry for his family that I can't even begin. Swat team came and shot a 100% innocent, unarmed person. "He reached for his waist band" ok...sure he did.
I had no idea this was a thing and I hope the piece of shit who did this gets the book thrown at him.
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Post by Legacy Girl on Dec 31, 2017 0:48:09 GMT
Horrible. And the potential for future devastation is even more horrific.
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Post by canadianscrappergirl on Dec 31, 2017 0:51:21 GMT
I saw it last night and I'm so disgusted and angry for his family that I can't even begin. Swat team came and shot a 100% innocent, unarmed person. "He reached for his waist band" ok...sure he did. I had no idea this was a thing and I hope the piece of shit who did this gets the book thrown at him. I feel awful for his mom. I agree they seemed very trigger happy. Later in the news they said the world health association have added video game addictions as a mental health disorder. To think this idiot got pissed about a video game is just crazy. Hope he never sees daylight. |
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Dec 31, 2017 0:53:10 GMT
That's horrific!
I hope the pranker gets locked up for life, and the swat officer is fired.
They both ended that young innocent man's life, and devastated his family.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 1:00:55 GMT
This is neither a prank nor some "crazy person". This is a deliberate attempt to cause grievous harm to someone. I feel for the family and the officer.  |
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Post by canadianscrappergirl on Dec 31, 2017 1:13:06 GMT
This is neither a prank nor some "crazy person". This is a deliberate attempt to cause grievous harm to someone. I feel for the family and the officer. I titled it that because that is what the news called it. Crazy or not he needs to never be released. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 31, 2017 1:23:03 GMT
This unfortunately caused a fatality, but swatting has been going on for a long time. It was generally with celebrities homes being stormed by the police/swat teams. Locked gates slowed them down making time to evaluate the situation.
I am trying to remember if I saw flashing red lights in the videos........ That would at least warn homeowners that it was the police and not just someone yelling with a gun, particularly if there was a TV on in the house behind the man. They stated he was standing in the screen doorway and he could well not have even heard what was being said.
It was and will continue to be a big mess all the way around, primarily the death of an innocent man in his home!
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Post by georgiapea on Dec 31, 2017 1:28:14 GMT
They have to be able to trace the phone call to prosecute the person who did this. The nature of the call would lead police to treat him as violent and armed. I can't bring myself to blame law enforcement at this time. There will be a thorough investigation of everything that happened, as it happened.
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Post by katlady on Dec 31, 2017 1:37:15 GMT
LAPD arrested someone tonight in connection with this.
“Los Angeles resident Tyler Barriss, 25, was arrested as a suspect in the case by the Los Angeles Police Department, the LAPD confirmed Saturday. He was taken into custody on a fugitive warrant in Los Angeles Saturday afternoon.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 31, 2017 1:39:43 GMT
To nail the guy so quickly there had to be more info.
Phone calls today, scammers/spammers somehow create fake phone numbers all the time.
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Post by Horse scrap on Dec 31, 2017 1:46:37 GMT
This happened in my home state. Yes there are flashing police lights, an officer on the loud speaker telling him to keep him hands up. Which he did, but if I understand correctly, put them back down, reached for his waist, and is shot.
I am NOT blaming the victim. I am NOT blaming the officer. He was doing his job based on the info given. They have arrested the caller. Arrest is pending the other gamer.
As the wife of an officer, I can assure you that I have little doubt the officer woke that day and thought "what the heck! I think I'll kill an innocent man". Please remember he is human, and will also live with this awful tragedy.
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Post by Zee on Dec 31, 2017 1:54:33 GMT
A recent case I read about involved a shooting of another innocent man, only they used rubber bullets and he's alive. Non-lethal methods need to be incorporated. And am I wrong for thinking it's completely unnecessary to shoot a man when you can't even see a weapon?
The ONLY good thing that can come out of this is possible re-evaluation of how police respond.
Officers I'm sure don't intend to kill people, but sometimes they don't try hard enough not to. Done on this subject...it's making me really angry.
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Post by Zee on Dec 31, 2017 1:56:10 GMT
They have to be able to trace the phone call to prosecute the person who did this. The nature of the call would lead police to treat him as violent and armed. I can't bring myself to blame law enforcement at this time. There will be a thorough investigation of everything that happened, as it happened. Are you fucking kidding...say your DH comes to the door, has no idea what's going on, raises arms, then reaches for the door or whatever because he's just shocked, and he's shot dead. Oh well! His fault I guess! |
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Post by Zee on Dec 31, 2017 1:58:43 GMT
But let me guess...no one's DH would be in that position because he'd never dream of making a wrong move or cross the wrong person.
You know what, this could happen just from cutting a person off in traffic.
We should NOT be ok with this.
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Post by Baseballmom23 on Dec 31, 2017 2:03:42 GMT
I have little doubt the officer woke that day and thought "what the heck! I think I'll kill an innocent man". Please remember he is human, and will also live with this awful tragedy. I wish everyone could/would go through the "shoot, don't shoot" simulator. It puts you in situations that police officers face everyday and you experience the split second decision that they have to make. It's a terrible situation all around and I feel for everyone involved (except the jerk who made the call) SaveSave |
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 31, 2017 3:01:31 GMT
They've been playing the 911 call on the news and part of me can't believe it was taken seriously. He sounded like he was making it up as he went along. I can understand the police being on edge, but they should be trained to de-escalate the situation and use nonlethal weapons IMHO.
I didn't read the attached article, but according to the report I saw, the caller sent the police to the wrong house.
The caller also has a history of calling in bomb threats.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Dec 31, 2017 3:58:22 GMT
A recent case I read about involved a shooting of another innocent man, only they used rubber bullets and he's alive. Non-lethal methods need to be incorporated. And am I wrong for thinking it's completely unnecessary to shoot a man when you can't even see a weapon? The ONLY good thing that can come out of this is possible re-evaluation of how police respond. Officers I'm sure don't intend to kill people, but sometimes they don't try hard enough not to. Done on this subject...it's making me really angry. ITA! I can't agree enough with this post. And I feel so angry too. |
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Post by theroadlesstraveledp on Dec 31, 2017 4:04:48 GMT
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Dec 31, 2017 4:10:15 GMT
They've been playing the 911 call on the news and part of me can't believe it was taken seriously. He sounded like he was making it up as he went along. Well of course it sounds that way now that you know the motive behind it. Hindsight is always 20/20. If you didn't know the background of the call, you probably would view it differently. This is what I hate about 24 hour news cycles. There is never any time for an investigation to bear out. We get small bits of information and run with it and off we go making judgements. We also sit in our comfortable houses with our safe jobs and we are more than experts on how we would handle things if in the shoes of military, fire and police. Thats what drives me bonkers in these conversations. Many naysayers of police tactics have gone through those shooting simulations another pea has mentioned and every time they come out making the wrong decision in the heat of the moment. It is an eye opening experience. There are many videos out there showing them too. Its easy to sit back and say what we think should happen but till you walk in those shoes and you have to make those calls, try very hard not to make the judgements based on what the media is portraying. |
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 31, 2017 18:54:31 GMT
They've been playing the 911 call on the news and part of me can't believe it was taken seriously. He sounded like he was making it up as he went along. Well of course it sounds that way now that you know the motive behind it. Hindsight is always 20/20. If you didn't know the background of the call, you probably would view it differently. This is what I hate about 24 hour news cycles. There is never any time for an investigation to bear out. We get small bits of information and run with it and off we go making judgements. We also sit in our comfortable houses with our safe jobs and we are more than experts on how we would handle things if in the shoes of military, fire and police. Thats what drives me bonkers in these conversations. Many naysayers of police tactics have gone through those shooting simulations another pea has mentioned and every time they come out making the wrong decision in the heat of the moment. It is an eye opening experience. There are many videos out there showing them too. Its easy to sit back and say what we think should happen but till you walk in those shoes and you have to make those calls, try very hard not to make the judgements based on what the media is portraying. I do understand that the police were obviously in a tense situation, but stand by what I said about listening to the call. There is a huge disconnect between what the caller was alleged to have done and what the SWAT team met at that house. That no one on the team was trained to pick up on that is the very least of what they should learn from this horrific crime. Questions I have include why we're there no other calls to 911 about an alleged gun shot or domestic violence incident? There is a lot to be investigated and a lot to be learned. The criminal is the caller sitting 1000+ miles away, but he was able to use the police to carry out his crime. |
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Post by pierkiss on Dec 31, 2017 19:32:55 GMT
That’s heartbreaking. And that m-fer who called that in as a “joke” needs to spend the rest of his pathetic life in prison.
I don’t know how I feel about the officer who shot the man.
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Post by anxiousmom on Dec 31, 2017 21:22:20 GMT
They have to be able to trace the phone call to prosecute the person who did this. The nature of the call would lead police to treat him as violent and armed. I can't bring myself to blame law enforcement at this time. There will be a thorough investigation of everything that happened, as it happened. Are you fucking kidding...say your DH comes to the door, has no idea what's going on, raises arms, then reaches for the door or whatever because he's just shocked, and he's shot dead. Oh well! His fault I guess! I saw this last night on the news while with my younger son. He said he had definitely heard of this kind of thing before. As we were talking though, I said that if I opened the door to a swat team I would probably freak the f*ck out and throw my hands all kind of places too. This whole 'prank' thing makes me mad as all kinds of hell. What kind of person does this?? You would HAVE to know that calling out a swat team would lead to some kind of horrible ending...do you have no soul whatsoever?  ?? |
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Post by flute4peace on Dec 31, 2017 22:33:47 GMT
This happened in my home state. Yes there are flashing police lights, an officer on the loud speaker telling him to keep him hands up. Which he did, but if I understand correctly, put them back down, reached for his waist, and is shot. I am NOT blaming the victim. I am NOT blaming the officer. He was doing his job based on the info given. They have arrested the caller. Arrest is pending the other gamer. As the wife of an officer, I can assure you that I have little doubt the officer woke that day and thought "what the heck! I think I'll kill an innocent man". Please remember he is human, and will also live with this awful tragedy. Amen amen amen & amen. This is also my home state. It's beyond devastating for all involved. |
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Post by flute4peace on Dec 31, 2017 23:00:31 GMT
There's not always time to sit & listen to a call before responding. I have a family member who carries a bullet due to responding to a similar call. Shots fired, man down, domestic disturbance, hostage situation. Except that it was real and the guy opened fire on responding officers, and my relative is **** lucky to be alive.
I'm not in any way saying the police did or didn't handle this situation correctly. That's for the KBI to determine. Every call is different and that's what makes law enforcement so incredibly difficult (look at what happened in CO today).
It's easy/tempting for me to sit here and Monday Morning QB, and I'm not afraid to admit that I've been struggling with doing just that, but the truth is that I have exactly zero training in LE, and I'm not privy to the details of this specific case (and neither is anyone else in the general public), so the best I can do is pray for all parties involved.
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