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Post by pjaye on Jan 24, 2018 1:47:51 GMT
Interesting report about Melania cancelling her trip to the Davos World Economic Forum with Trump
Melania’s Davos cancellation is a ‘subliminal message’ aimed directly at Trump The video is at the end and they discuss this:
here's what Melania put on Twitter: 
Definitely interesting, a year as FLOTUS and 13years of marriage and she posts a photo of herself with this handsome, young, slim, uniformed man instead of her husband. I don't think the message is that "subliminal' at all, it's very pointed and directed at her husband. It looks like she's reached her limit, especially with the porn star revelations and his "you remind me of my daughter" comments.
However she is still the First Lady, should she be expected to suck it up and continue to attend official events/travel with him? Do you think she has an obligation to fulfil aspects of the role, no matter how she is personally feeling? or is it OK to ditch official duties when your POTUS husband's affair is plastered all over the news? (of course for the previous 8 years this wasn't something that needed discussion) |
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 24, 2018 1:56:59 GMT
I could not care less what she does. I think the role of first lady is antiquated.
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Post by librarylady on Jan 24, 2018 1:59:55 GMT
Will he even make the trip to Davos? The Swiss have been protesting his attendance for 2-3 weeks.
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Post by librarylady on Jan 24, 2018 2:01:52 GMT
Just read the article in the original post.
I think CNN is making much ado about nothing.
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 24, 2018 2:02:31 GMT
I would love to see her take a more prominent role in the White House like many other wives have in the past. It isn't mandatory, but she has a platform and I would love her to use it. I really thought it was an odd picture to choose, but if I had heard so many "stories"- true or not, I would be really ticked off.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 24, 2018 2:03:11 GMT
I think CNN is making much ado about nothing. Why is that? |
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Post by imsirius on Jan 24, 2018 2:04:44 GMT
I think if she wants out, she should get out, I’m sure she has an ironclad prenup in which she would get nothing.
She has done nothing as First Lady, so if she divorced him and left, it would mean squat. She is no Michelle Obama or Laura Bush.
I'm sure if she did leave, Ivanka would be happy to take the role anyway. 🤮
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Post by lucyg on Jan 24, 2018 2:06:49 GMT
The role of First Lady, in general? I think it is helpful to her husband if she fulfills the traditional role. But it is not a requirement and she isn't obligated to do anything. Someone else can handle what she would otherwise do, or it can go undone.
This family in particular? I am unable to separate how much I despise her husband from what I think she should or should not do. I hope she rips out his effing black hole of a heart and eats it for breakfast.
That would be a greater service to this country than any hostessing duties she might otherwise perform.
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Post by scrapngranny on Jan 24, 2018 2:07:15 GMT
I think Melania is a hostage. She is fighting back quietly. Every single time she is any where near him you can see the hate in every fiber of her body.
Im sure she is wrapped up in an air-tight pre-nup that would cause her to lose the only thing important (ok, the money is up there pretty far too) to her, her son. Trump is a vile human being. He humiliates her daily.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 24, 2018 2:07:37 GMT
I hope she rips out his effing black hole of a heart and eats it for breakfast.  |
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Post by librarylady on Jan 24, 2018 2:08:29 GMT
I think CNN is making much ado about nothing. Why is that? She has not been a real presence at state functions during this past year. We see her pop up here and there, but most of the time she is invisible. His trip was on, then off, and apparently back on again. If she reads the news, she knows the Swiss are demonstrating against him. Why would she eagerly pop over to Davos to be in the middle of that? If she had made a habit of always being at functions--then there might be a story. (Perhaps she wants to stay home and do her hair. LOL) |
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Post by imsirius on Jan 24, 2018 2:09:57 GMT
The role of First Lady, in general? I think it is helpful to her husband if she fulfills the traditional role. But it is not a requirement and she isn't obligated to do anything. Someone else can handle what she would otherwise do, or it can go undone. This family in particular? I am unable to separate how much I despise her husband from what I think she should or should not do. I hope she rips out his effing black hole of a heart and eats it for breakfast.That would be a greater service to this country than any hostessing duties she might otherwise perform. 😂😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by imsirius on Jan 24, 2018 2:11:42 GMT
I think Melania is a hostage. She is fighting back quietly. Every single time she is any where near him you can see the hate in every fiber of her body. Im sure she is wrapped up in an air-tight pre-nup that would cause her to lose the only thing important (ok, the money is up there pretty far too) to her, her son. Trump is a vile human being. He humiliates her daily. I agree. The look of contempt every time they are together is very obvious. Her smile never reaches her eyes. You see her with Barron, or anyone else for that matter, she has genuine happiness. |
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Post by pierkiss on Jan 24, 2018 2:12:19 GMT
I think if she wants out, she should get out, I’m sure she has an ironclad prenup in which she would get nothing. She has done nothing as First Lady, so if she divorced him and left, it would mean squat. She is no Michelle Obama or Laura Bush. I'm sure if she did leave, Ivanka would be happy to take the role anyway. 🤮 Actually, I think if she leaves him it sends a very powerful message to the women in this country who may be in a similar situation in their own marriages. That they do not have to stand by their partner no matter what. That they have self worth, and that they absolutely deserve better, and to be treated with respect and dignity and love by the person they are with. And if they cannot change their behavior and become a person who does that, that it’s okay to leave. |
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Post by papersilly on Jan 24, 2018 2:12:27 GMT
I think the GOP will "encourage" her to participate with him more for the optics and because her approval rating is higher than his. Maybe they hope having her by his side will make him more likable. Who knows.
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Post by librarylady on Jan 24, 2018 2:13:37 GMT
My mother always said, "If you marry for money, you earn every penny of it."
I do think Melania has paid deeply for whatever money she enjoys in this union.
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Post by PLurker on Jan 24, 2018 2:13:58 GMT
I hope she rips out his effing black hole of a heart and eats it for breakfast. Yeah, lucyg tell us how you really feel. Don't hold back!  |
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Post by pierkiss on Jan 24, 2018 2:14:19 GMT
Now, In the event she leaves him and her role as FLOTUS, will I be sad to see her go? No way. She has not done anything even remotely interesting or worthwhile in her role. She has this great big platform she can use for so much good and to enact so much change in our country, and she is not using it. It’s a shame.
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Post by mom on Jan 24, 2018 2:16:06 GMT
She has not been a real presence at state functions during this past year. We see her pop up here and there, but most of the time she is invisible. His trip was on, then off, and apparently back on again. If she reads the news, she knows the Swiss are demonstrating against him. Why would she eagerly pop over to Davos to be in the middle of that? If she had made a habit of always being at functions--then there might be a story. (Perhaps she wants to stay home and do her hair. LOL) I agree with this. Had she already been known for always being in attendance then this could be a big story. But she does what she wants, and sometimes that means not being his sidekick. So I don't read much into this at all. SaveSave |
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Post by lucyg on Jan 24, 2018 2:18:05 GMT
I don't think you can settle child custody with a pre-nup. That's something to be decided by a judge in real time as needed. And no judge on this planet, not even one bought and paid for by Donald Trump, would give him custody of a 12yo who wanted to stay with his loving, attentive mother who has done the actual child-rearing.
Trump may have her on $$$, but he hasn't got her on custody of Barron, not by a long shot.
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Post by imsirius on Jan 24, 2018 2:19:20 GMT
Now, I’m the event she leaves him and her role as FLOTUS, will I be sad to see her go? No way. She has not done anything even remotely interesting or worthwhile in her role. She has this great big platform she can use for so much good and to enact so much change in our country, and she is not using it. It’s a shame. Her platform was ridiculous to begin with FOR HER to choose. How can she condemn others for bullying and cyber bullying when she lives with the king of bullying and racism? How could anyone take her seriously when she stands by a man who is the polar opposite of that platform? I agree with the platform, but not her choosing it. I think she chose it because it was a slap in Trump's face. |
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Post by pierkiss on Jan 24, 2018 2:20:33 GMT
Now, I’m the event she leaves him and her role as FLOTUS, will I be sad to see her go? No way. She has not done anything even remotely interesting or worthwhile in her role. She has this great big platform she can use for so much good and to enact so much change in our country, and she is not using it. It’s a shame. Her platform was ridiculous to begin with FOR HER to choose. How can she condemn others for bullying and cyber bullying when she lives with the king of bullying and racism? How could anyone take her serious when she stands by a man who is the polar opposite of that platform? I agree with the platform, but not her choosing it. I think she chose it because it was a slap in Trump's face. Totally agree with that. |
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on Jan 24, 2018 2:26:31 GMT
I wouldn't have gone with him even before the porn star thing (if that's why she cancelled.) Trump has been begging forever to get invited to this thing, and they laughed him off. I can only imagine how f*cking embarrassing he is going to be.
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Post by imkat on Jan 24, 2018 2:28:27 GMT
What could either of them possibly contribute to Davos?
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Post by sawwhet on Jan 24, 2018 2:30:17 GMT
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Post by jayfab on Jan 24, 2018 2:40:56 GMT
If I were in her shoes and was miserable I would secretly get a lawyer/account/adviser and squirrel away some of his millions somehow. There has to be a way. Then when it was time I'd say "bye felicia"
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 24, 2018 2:52:03 GMT
I think a first lady should represent our country to the best of her ability. I think they are often almost regal.
I do not believe they should be forced to do it if they are not feeling it. I did not vote for a first lady (or man). I votes for the candidate.
She needs to do what is best for her and her son.
What I don't understand is the energy spent on her when there are bigger, more pressing issues that get no coverage at all
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Post by pmm on Jan 24, 2018 2:53:33 GMT
I remember seeing a show about her and her saying that she has her own wealth. She doesn't need DTs.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 24, 2018 2:55:30 GMT
Don't get me wrong...I don't think it's a "story" as such, I just thought that twitter post was interesting and hadn't seen it prior today. Like it or not (for her and the rest of us) they are one of the worlds most watched couples currently so whatever she does invites comment. We all see how childishly Trump reacts publically when things don't go his way, it's a bit scary to speculate how this might have gone down in private. he calls people rude names in public...can you imagine what sort of verbal abuse he probably throws at her in private? I do think it is very telling that was the photo she used and it made me laugh that they said it was a "subliminal" message when it's as close to a slap in the face that any photo could get! Actually, I think if she leaves him it sends a very powerful message to the women in this country who may be in a similar situation in their own marriages. That they do not have to stand by their partner no matter what. That they have self worth, and that they absolutely deserve better, and to be treated with respect and dignity and love by the person they are with. And if they cannot change their behavior and become a person who does that, that it’s okay to leave That is a very good point, it would be a powerful message. I felt conflicted with Hillary too, on one hand I could admire her for sticking it out and continuing to do her job in the face of her husband's stupidity, on the other hand I wished she'd have stood up for herself and say it wasn't OK and that women didn't have to put up with that. It's always been clear that Melania never wanted to be in this role and she probably should have left him before he ran in that case. If she leaves now it will just be another distraction to the shit job he's doing as president and likely be something else he uses as an excuse. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 3:00:29 GMT
1. What goes on between Melania and that idiot she married is between them. I remember when the Monica scandal broke people felt Hillary should leave Bill and she got slammed for not doing it then. That even reared it’s head just recently on this board. It’s these folks marriage and it’s between them and it’s none of our business.
2. I’m not sure there is a traditional role all First Ladies must follow. I think it’s more of making the First Lady’s role their own and one they are comfortable with. And I don’t have a problem with that because if you look at all the past First Ladies since Jackie O, they are all as different as night and day.
3. I’m guessing here but I’m thinking Melania didn’t want trump to run for president and that she and Barron would rather be anyplace else but at the White House. Having said that I think she is trying to do the best she can.
So travel with trump don’t travel with trump it’s her decision and I’m ok with it.
I will say this, if there is a traditional role, I think Melania understands it better than trump.
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