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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 18:35:02 GMT
As a teacher, I want to know: how much more is going to be asked of me? As it is, I am sometimes a parent to these kids - I help them plan for college and I get on them to get their homework done so they can pass their classes. I encourage them when they need it and I give them a stern talking to when they slack off. I do a lot of that, because many parents don't seem to care. I know that they love their children, they just don't have the time at the end of the day to check grades, or they don't have a computer and can't log in to the system like I can. As it is, I am sometimes a nurse to these kids - I supply them with bandaids, feminine pads, kleenex and remind them to wash their hands and use the sanitizer. As it is, I am sometimes a counselor to these kids - I listen to them when they have a problem that they don't know how to deal with and don't know who to talk to. I spend money out of my own pocket to buy books, pencils, fun stuff for the classroom. I spend time out of my evenings and weekends looking for new ideas, best practices, and ways to get them motivated. I have given them food from my own lunch when they were hungry. Always, I am an advocate for these kids. I will speak up for them when they are being treated badly, I will write letters of recommendation, I will give them hugs and cheer like you wouldn't believe when I watch them march across the stage in May. And now I am being asked to become an armed guard for them. There was always the expectation that if the unthinkable happened, I would be the one who goes in the hall and locks the door. I'm the one who turns off the lights and makes sure the kids have the safest, best hiding places. I'm the one who has thought about the angles that are visible from the hall and whether or not it's safer to stay in the classroom, or to try to get into the interior workroom with an extra door in the way. Now it's going to be my job to have a weapon, secure the weapon, train with the weapon, and learn when and when not to shoot the weapon? I'm going to be the one who locks my kids in the room and then goes searching for the bad guy? That's the point at which I draw the line. I'm not Superman, I'm only a teacher. BRAVA!!!! This was exactly what I was thinking when I heard about the proposal to arm teachers. I do SO much already that is NOT teaching the curriculum and now we're assuming teachers can take on another task--and not just ANY old task. The task of protecting their lives by potentially using a fire arm? NO! No, I will NOT! No! I CANNOT! No. I don't want this to be the end of my career in education, but if they make me be armed in class, it will be. NO ONE is going to force anyone to be armed. That's a hysterical reaction. IF this is a solution that gets put into place, it will be done by willing participants who will then be trained and able. It won't be in your purse, your drawer or hanging from your hip. It will not be something you have to deal with in the course of your teaching day. It will be in a locked gun safe in the room of a willing, trained and capable person. It will not be utilized except in the case of an active shooter. It will just exist to be there in case needed. Much like a fire extinguisher.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 18:39:57 GMT
As Yale’s Dr. Mark Rosen observed when the rule was first suggested, the link between financial acumen and mental illness is extraordinarily weak: “Someone can be incapable of managing their funds but not be dangerous, violent or unsafe,” said Dr. Marc Rosen, a Yale psychiatrist who has studied how veterans with mental health problems manage their money. “They are very different determinations." Statement from the National Council on Disability: "NCD is a nonpartisan, independent federal agency with no stated position with respect to gun-ownership or gun-control other than our long-held position that restrictions on gun possession or ownership based on psychiatric or intellectual disability must be based on a verifiable concern as to whether the individual poses a heightened risk of danger to themselves or others if they are in possession of a weapon. Additionally, it is critically important that any restriction on gun possession or ownership on this basis is imposed only after the individual has been afforded due process and given an opportunity to respond to allegations that they are not able to safely possess or own a firearm due to his or her disability. NCD believes that SSA’s final rule falls far short of meeting these criteria." There's a reason the ACLU and dozenS of mental health groups have urged the repeal of the law Obama put in place.
And it isn't because they don't care if mentally unstable people are handling guns. I happen to know a couple of people fits this criteria to a t. In fact one of the guys has my sister handle his financial dealings with SSA because he is not mentally capable of doing it on his own. Now if someone cannot handle their their own financial affairs what makes you think they can handle the responsibility that goes with owning a gun?
So you can repeated and bold the part about ACLU etc from now until the cows come home but in this they are dead wrong. Because hundreds of mental health professionals from dozens of mental health groups are telling us that they are very different determinations and that it must be based on a verifiable concern as to whether the individual poses a heightened risk of danger to themselves or others if they are in possession of a weapon. NOT a blanket determination for all. And should be imposed only after the individual has been afforded due process and given an opportunity to respond to allegations that they are not able to safely possess or own a firearm due to his or her disability.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 20:47:31 GMT
I happen to know a couple of people fits this criteria to a t. In fact one of the guys has my sister handle his financial dealings with SSA because he is not mentally capable of doing it on his own. Now if someone cannot handle their their own financial affairs what makes you think they can handle the responsibility that goes with owning a gun?
So you can repeated and bold the part about ACLU etc from now until the cows come home but in this they are dead wrong. Because hundreds of mental health professionals from dozens of mental health groups are telling us that they are very different determinations and that it must be based on a verifiable concern as to whether the individual poses a heightened risk of danger to themselves or others if they are in possession of a weapon. NOT a blanket determination for all. And should be imposed only after the individual has been afforded due process and given an opportunity to respond to allegations that they are not able to safely possess or own a firearm due to his or her disability. “Disability rights groups also objected to the bill. The American Civil Liberties Union joined the protest and in a letter to members of Congress, urged for its repeal. “We oppose this rule because it advances and reinforces the harmful stereotype that people with mental disabilities, a vast and diverse group of citizens, are violent,” the letter says. “There is no data to support a connection between the need for a representative payee to manage one’s Social Security disability benefits and a propensity toward gun violence.” As usual I had to go elsewhere to find out what you are trying to say. In the process I looked at what SDDI considers Mental - Cognitive. Psychological & Psychistric Disorders. Here’s the list... *ADHD - Attention Deficit. *. Anxiety Disorder. * Autsim & Aspergers * Bipolar Disorder. * Depression *Alochol or Drug Addition * Panic Attacks * Organic Mental disorder (including organic brain syndrome) * PTSD *Schizophrenia I also read the letter the ACLU wrote against this bill. And they are wrong. 1. Look at that list above. In order to receive SSDI benefits you have to be diagnosed with a disability. The list above are the mental disabilities that qualify one for SSDI. Out of that list in all honesty would you be ok with any person who has been diagnosed with one of these disorders be able to own guns? I wouldn’t. I would think that at the same time these folks qualify to receive SSDI because of their mental disability it would automically disqualify them from owning guns. But it doesn’t. It’s not until “ because of mental impairment they use a representative payee to help manager their benefits” . It’s at that point their names were given to a registry. 2. And this is why I disagree with the AC!U and disability right groups pushing the notion this law reinforces the stereotype that folks with mental disabilities are all violent. First anyone who has been diagnosed with a mental illness should not be allowed to own guns period. The reason is their mental ability to reason has been affected to some degree depending how serious their illness is. It’s wrong for the ACLU and disability groups to come out against the law because they believe it reinforces the stereotype that all people with mental illness are violent. By doing so they are removing a means of keeping guns out of the hands of people who shouldn’t have them. What they should have been doing is acknowledging that when folks who are receiving SSDI Benifits because of a mental illness reach a point because of mental impairments they use a representative payer to help manager their benefits they shouldn’t own guns. Not because they are violent but because they don’t have the mental capacity to safely handle the guns. The ones I know that are receiving SSDI are because their disability is a mental illness. It’s 2 brothers and a sister. They are not violent but neither do they have the reasoning ability one should have if they are to own guns. It would be like giving an 8 year old a gun with no supervision. The ACLU and disability groups were wrong in their reason for coming out against the law. And by doing so it gave the GOP cover to repeal it. I MO
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 22:34:30 GMT
Reuters..
“JUST IN: Trump calls for end of gun-free zones near schools, endorses idea of teachers and others in schools being armed if they had special training”
Yea that’s going to solve everything. Idiot.
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 21, 2018 22:41:32 GMT
Reuters.. “JUST IN: Trump calls for end of gun-free zones near schools, endorses idea of teachers and others in schools being armed if they had special training” Yea that’s going to solve everything. Idiot. Holy shit! I hope congress ignores him on this one.
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Post by imsirius on Feb 21, 2018 22:42:36 GMT
Soooo,, when I posted a door barricade for schools, I was told that schools couldn't afford Kleenex, but they will be able to afford the salaries of armed guards?
Again, I would never EVER send my child to a school with guns inside. Locked up or not. By the time the locked gun safe gets open and bullets put in, many will still be dead already. It's not right to have guns in schools..it just isn't.
How about changing your gun laws first? Gee, what a novel idea.
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 21, 2018 22:56:10 GMT
Well hell. Maybe this is how this administration kills the public school system in this country. If they do this, teachers will leave, students will get yanked. Not all of course. Then maybe some charter or private schools open up that advertise gun free education facilities. Suddenly all the students, parents, and teachers flock to those schools. Funding for the public schools dries up, forcing more and more cuts and ever expanding class sizes. More teachers leave. Public school dies out, and Betsy DeVos and Donald Trump effectively privatize education in this country. Can’t afford private school? Guess there’s no education for you!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 23:17:50 GMT
Ken Thomas...
“.@ckaster captured this image of @potus' note card during WH listening session w/students and parents affected by school shootings.”
And the last comment written on the card was “I hear you”. And one of the questions was “What would you most want me to hear about your experience.”
What a complete idiot! These kids were shot at in their school. That is why they were at this meeting, that is their experience. What a dumb question to ask these kids.
Another question is “What can we do to make you feel safe”.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 21, 2018 23:28:31 GMT
Because hundreds of mental health professionals from dozens of mental health groups are telling us that they are very different determinations and that it must be based on a verifiable concern as to whether the individual poses a heightened risk of danger to themselves or others if they are in possession of a weapon. NOT a blanket determination for all. And should be imposed only after the individual has been afforded due process and given an opportunity to respond to allegations that they are not able to safely possess or own a firearm due to his or her disability. “Disability rights groups also objected to the bill. The American Civil Liberties Union joined the protest and in a letter to members of Congress, urged for its repeal. “We oppose this rule because it advances and reinforces the harmful stereotype that people with mental disabilities, a vast and diverse group of citizens, are violent,” the letter says. “There is no data to support a connection between the need for a representative payee to manage one’s Social Security disability benefits and a propensity toward gun violence.” As usual I had to go elsewhere to find out what you are trying to say. In the process I looked at what SDDI considers Mental - Cognitive. Psychological & Psychistric Disorders. Here’s the list... *ADHD - Attention Deficit. *. Anxiety Disorder. * Autsim & Aspergers * Bipolar Disorder. * Depression *Alochol or Drug Addition * Panic Attacks * Organic Mental disorder (including organic brain syndrome) * PTSD *Schizophrenia I also read the letter the ACLU wrote against this bill. And they are wrong. 1. Look at that list above. In order to receive SSDI benefits you have to be diagnosed with a disability. The list above are the mental disabilities that qualify one for SSDI. Out of that list in all honesty would you be ok with any person who has been diagnosed with one of these disorders be able to own guns? I wouldn’t. I would think that at the same time these folks qualify to receive SSDI because of their mental disability it would automically disqualify them from owning guns. But it doesn’t. It’s not until “ because of mental impairment they use a representative payee to help manager their benefits” . It’s at that point their names were given to a registry. 2. And this is why I disagree with the AC!U and disability right groups pushing the notion this law reinforces the stereotype that folks with mental disabilities are all violent. First anyone who has been diagnosed with a mental illness should not be allowed to own guns period. The reason is their mental ability to reason has been affected to some degree depending how serious their illness is. It’s wrong for the ACLU and disability groups to come out against the law because they believe it reinforces the stereotype that all people with mental illness are violent. By doing so they are removing a means of keeping guns out of the hands of people who shouldn’t have them. What they should have been doing is acknowledging that when folks who are receiving SSDI Benifits because of a mental illness reach a point because of mental impairments they use a representative payer to help manager their benefits they shouldn’t own guns. Not because they are violent but because they don’t have the mental capacity to safely handle the guns. The ones I know that are receiving SSDI are because their disability is a mental illness. It’s 2 brothers and a sister. They are not violent but neither do they have the reasoning ability one should have if they are to own guns. It would be like giving an 8 year old a gun with no supervision. The ACLU and disability groups were wrong in their reason for coming out against the law. And by doing so it gave the GOP cover to repeal it. I MO I agree with you and think the other huge issue the ACLU and disability groups are overlooking is while they're arguing about studies linking the mental illness to violent crime - they're completely ignoring the multitude of studies linking mental illness with suicide. 100% disabled with mental, cogitative and psychological and psychistric disorders should have been enough even before the unable to handle their affairs.
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Post by LeaP on Feb 22, 2018 0:16:29 GMT
"I hear you." These are Trump's notes for the meeting with students today. link
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 22, 2018 0:28:47 GMT
He has his presidential number embroidered on his dress shirt cuffs. Wow.
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Post by peasquared on Feb 22, 2018 0:40:30 GMT
Okay, I listened to pretty much all of the "listening" event and heard his comments on arming teachers. I have a few thoughts that probably have already been stated, but here goes.
1. My daughter is a teacher. About the end of April, they can no longer make copies in the office because the budget has been depleted. Who is going to pay for training these teachers, coaches and admin?
2. Gia mentioned keeping the gun in a safe in the classroom. The president said that statistics show that an attack such as last weeks, generally lasts 3-4 minutes. That isn't enough time for a teacher to get his/her kids to safety, unlock a safe and go find the shooter. One of the teachers was shot just trying to shut his door. What about if the coach is a armed employee? What, he's going to carry his safe with him to the gym or the field? No, it'll be in his office who knows how far away. 3. The president claims that schools are a target because they are gun free zones so that shooters think, great no one will be shooting back. The schools are a target because the shooter is/was a student and is looking for revenge. Also, in most school shootings of this magnitude, the shooter/s most often take their own lives. So, the threat of bullets coming toward them is not a concern, getting the most carnage is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 1:08:48 GMT
Because hundreds of mental health professionals from dozens of mental health groups are telling us that they are very different determinations and that it must be based on a verifiable concern as to whether the individual poses a heightened risk of danger to themselves or others if they are in possession of a weapon. NOT a blanket determination for all. And should be imposed only after the individual has been afforded due process and given an opportunity to respond to allegations that they are not able to safely possess or own a firearm due to his or her disability. “Disability rights groups also objected to the bill. The American Civil Liberties Union joined the protest and in a letter to members of Congress, urged for its repeal. “We oppose this rule because it advances and reinforces the harmful stereotype that people with mental disabilities, a vast and diverse group of citizens, are violent,” the letter says. “There is no data to support a connection between the need for a representative payee to manage one’s Social Security disability benefits and a propensity toward gun violence.” As usual I had to go elsewhere to find out what you are trying to say. In the process I looked at what SDDI considers Mental - Cognitive. Psychological & Psychistric Disorders. Here’s the list... *ADHD - Attention Deficit. *. Anxiety Disorder. * Autsim & Aspergers * Bipolar Disorder. * Depression *Alochol or Drug Addition * Panic Attacks * Organic Mental disorder (including organic brain syndrome) * PTSD *Schizophrenia I also read the letter the ACLU wrote against this bill. And they are wrong. 1. Look at that list above. In order to receive SSDI benefits you have to be diagnosed with a disability. The list above are the mental disabilities that qualify one for SSDI. Out of that list in all honesty would you be ok with any person who has been diagnosed with one of these disorders be able to own guns? I wouldn’t. I would think that at the same time these folks qualify to receive SSDI because of their mental disability it would automically disqualify them from owning guns. But it doesn’t. It’s not until “ because of mental impairment they use a representative payee to help manager their benefits” . It’s at that point their names were given to a registry. 2. And this is why I disagree with the AC!U and disability right groups pushing the notion this law reinforces the stereotype that folks with mental disabilities are all violent. First anyone who has been diagnosed with a mental illness should not be allowed to own guns period. The reason is their mental ability to reason has been affected to some degree depending how serious their illness is. It’s wrong for the ACLU and disability groups to come out against the law because they believe it reinforces the stereotype that all people with mental illness are violent. By doing so they are removing a means of keeping guns out of the hands of people who shouldn’t have them. What they should have been doing is acknowledging that when folks who are receiving SSDI Benifits because of a mental illness reach a point because of mental impairments they use a representative payer to help manager their benefits they shouldn’t own guns. Not because they are violent but because they don’t have the mental capacity to safely handle the guns. The ones I know that are receiving SSDI are because their disability is a mental illness. It’s 2 brothers and a sister. They are not violent but neither do they have the reasoning ability one should have if they are to own guns. It would be like giving an 8 year old a gun with no supervision. The ACLU and disability groups were wrong in their reason for coming out against the law. And by doing so it gave the GOP cover to repeal it. I MO I disagree with your assessment. I'm going with the constitution and the assessment of hundreds of mental health professionals from dozens of mental health groups that say they are very different determinations and that it must be based on a verifiable concern as to whether the individual poses a heightened risk of danger to themselves or others if they are in possession of a weapon. NOT a blanket determination for all. And should be imposed only after the individual has been afforded due process and given an opportunity to respond to allegations that they are not able to safely possess or own a firearm due to his or her disability.
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Post by scrappinmama on Feb 22, 2018 1:25:04 GMT
"I hear you." These are Trump's notes for the meeting with students today. linkHe doesn't know how to show empathy so someone had to remind him. Unbelievable. And he has his presidential number on his sleeves.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 22, 2018 1:25:31 GMT
Well hell. Maybe this is how this administration kills the public school system in this country. If they do this, teachers will leave, students will get yanked. Not all of course. Then maybe some charter or private schools open up that advertise gun free education facilities. Suddenly all the students, parents, and teachers flock to those schools. Funding for the public schools dries up, forcing more and more cuts and ever expanding class sizes. More teachers leave. Public school dies out, and Betsy DeVos and Donald Trump effectively privatize education in this country. Can’t afford private school? Guess there’s no education for you! May be more so then you are thinking....................
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 1:32:19 GMT
trump May, 2016.
“Crooked Hillary said that I want guns brought into the school classroom. Wrong!”
trump February, 2018..
Reuters...
“Trump says arming teachers could help prevent school massacres”
Politico..
“Trump floats expanding concealed carry on school campuses politi.co/2EKGkgY”
MSNBC...
“President Trump on concealed carry for teachers: "If you had a teacher who was adept at firearms, they could very well end the attack very quickly."
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Post by pierogi on Feb 22, 2018 2:26:27 GMT
"I hear you." These are Trump's notes for the meeting with students today. linkBwah! Remember how hysterical conservatives were that Obama used a teleprompter? Trump doesn't even know how to interact with children without cheat notes!
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Feb 22, 2018 2:45:57 GMT
These are Trump's notes for the meeting with students today. and that is most likely NOT his handwriting... so he had to have someone actually WRITE the comments "I hear you" and 'what can we do to make you feel safe' ?!? Really? And Trump interacting with children (in any meaningful way) is an oxymoron, just like 'jumbo shrimp' is. I also heard a comment or two from him re: arming teachers... something about '20% should be a good number' like, 20% of teachers packing heat is enough to be a deterrent. I don't know who came up with that number, but it's ludicrous-- so the armed teachers are supposed to abandon their classroom to go after the perpetrator in an active shooter situation?!? I don't THINK so!!!
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Post by PLurker on Feb 22, 2018 3:17:34 GMT
"I hear you." These are Trump's notes for the meeting with students today. link He doesn't know how to show empathy so someone had to remind him. Unbelievable. And he has his presidential number on his sleeves. I was gonna say pretty much same. When the POTUS has to be tutored in "Being a Human 101" and showing empathy. Can you imagine that meeting and coming up with making notes that shouldn't be necessary above 5-6th grade level for the current POTUS?! Notes and cheat sheets are supposed to be for the HARD stuff.... not a reminder to be a good person. Ugh!!!!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 22, 2018 3:23:35 GMT
He was not visible throughout the whole video. Could very well be a good photoshop job!
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Post by imsirius on Feb 22, 2018 13:52:47 GMT
"I hear you." These are Trump's notes for the meeting with students today. linkHe doesn't know how to show empathy so someone had to remind him. Unbelievable. And he has his presidential number on his sleeves. They probably embroidered the 45 so he can remember what number he is. 😂🤪😋
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 13:55:06 GMT
CNNChris Lu.. “McMaster might be pushed out due to his briefing style. Pompeo and Mattis “patiently answer Trump’s questions, regardless of the premise. McMaster, meanwhile, is the person who delivers the news that Trump doesn't want to hear.” #ChildPresident” It seems trump doesn’t like it because McMaster tells the truth based on facts and not the truth based on trump’s alternative facts. From the article... “The decision was also driven by the White House's challenge attracting top talent for jobs in the administration due to Trump's "blacklist" of individuals who have criticized the President, his personality and the Russia investigation, according to a senior Republican source. “ I also think that can’t attract top talent because trump is on their “blacklist”.
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Post by imsirius on Feb 22, 2018 13:56:55 GMT
I don't understand why the solution is to ADD MORE GUNS ?!!
Why the fuck can they not just make it HARDER to get a gun. Ban the military style weapons.
I will never EVER understand the (most) US' love for guns. “ We have a gun problem, but let’s not take them away..oh no..let's BRING MORE!”
Boggles my (living in a safe gun controlled country) mind.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 14:22:26 GMT
Breaking News from trump.
“I never said “give teachers guns” like was stated on Fake News @cnn & @nbc. What I said was to look at the possibility of giving “concealed guns to gun adept teachers with military or special training experience - only the best. 20% of teachers, a lot, would now be able to
....immediately fire back if a savage sicko came to a school with bad intentions. Highly trained teachers would also serve as a deterrent to the cowards that do this. Far more assets at much less cost than guards. A “gun free” school is a magnet for bad people. ATTACKS WOULD END!
....History shows that a school shooting lasts, on average, 3 minutes. It takes police & first responders approximately 5 to 8 minutes to get to site of crime. Highly trained, gun adept, teachers/coaches would solve the problem instantly, before police arrive. GREAT DETERRENT!
....If a potential “sicko shooter” knows that a school has a large number of very weapons talented teachers (and others) who will be instantly shooting, the sicko will NEVER attack that school. Cowards won’t go there...problem solved. Must be offensive, defense alone won’t work!
I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue - I hope!“
I guess someone finally clued him in that it has to be Congress that can ban the sale of bump stocks and not Jeff Sessions.
Last night I read that at one mass shooting it took armed guards just 90 seconds to take down the shooter and by then 5 people were dead. At the Orlando club there was an off duty police officer who engaged with the shooter and yet 49 people died.
Mass shootings don’t just happen at schools. Armed guards are not the answer.
And he sure is fixated on “gun free zones”.
Emphasis on mental health huh. Does that mean you are going to repeal the one law you signed?
But as always with trump its not what he say it’s what he does that matters.
What an idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 15:23:22 GMT
Jill Filipovic.....
“Of course the gun industry's proposed solution to mass shootings is not "let's try the thing that has worked to curtail gun violence in every other peaceful nation on earth" but "buy a billion dollars worth of our products."
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And he continues and why nothing will get done...
“What many people don’t understand, or don’t want to understand, is that Wayne, Chris and the folks who work so hard at the @nra are Great People and Great American Patriots. They love our Country and will do the right thing. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
Will be meeting with Lawmakers today at 11:30 A.M. to discuss School Safety. Next week it will be with our Nation’s Governors. It’s been many years of all talk, no action. We’ll get it done!”
The first step, if they are serious, is to get all military type or verisions of military type weapons off our streets by banning them. And not grandfathering any of them. Until that is done everything else is a useless bandaid to make people think you are doing something so shut up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 15:33:38 GMT
Caroline O
“NRA chief Wayne LaPierre is now incoherently screaming about socialism. This is a new level of insanity for the NRA.
And you know what's causing it? They're scared. Because they know the kids at Stoneman Douglas are more powerful than their money.”
I guess he is speaking at that Republican get together. It will be interesting to see what he said.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 15:38:28 GMT
Kyle Griffin...
This is how Wayne LaPierre describes Democrats just before Pence speaks at CPAC: "A party that is now infested with saboteurs who don't believe in capitalism, don't believe in the Constitution, don't believe in our freedom, and don't believe in America as we know it." (via CBS)
Ah now I understand. He’s talking about Bernie. Gotcha.
And those who support Bernie thought he could win the election because the Republicans didn’t have “emails” to use against him. This is just a sample.
Edited to add...In some ways Sander’s “baggage “ would have been harder to overcome than Hillary’s despite what the Bernie Bros want to believe.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 15:50:50 GMT
ABC News...
“NRA Chief Wayne LaPierre at CPAC: "Some people out there think the NRA should just stick to its Second Amendment agenda, and not talk about all of our freedoms. But real freedom requires protection of all of our rights." abcn.ws/2HEEDiD”
Talking about rights? Fine what about my right to feel safe? What about the right to be able to send our kids to school where there are no armed guards?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 16:02:06 GMT
Elon Musk...
“Falcon fairing half as seen from our catcher’s mitt in boat form, Mr. Steven. No apparent damage… instagram.com/p/BfgRX-lgIt6/“
Its THIS type of stuff that should have our attention, not how to keep our kids safe in our schools.
And that is why trump’s little slogan #MAGA is a sham. If a country has to have armed guards and teachers in the schools to protect the kids then it’s not a great country. Not by a long shot.
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