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Post by disneypal on Mar 14, 2018 13:21:21 GMT
I didn't see a thread so thought I would start one.
What did everyone think of the season finale of This is Us? I thought it was good but of course now I am more interested in next season after seeing the little hints they showed us at the end.
I liked that Dan Lauria and Wendie Malick played Toby's parents and I am still curious why his brother didn't come to his Bachelor Party in Las Vegas or his wedding...hope we find out more about that next season.
I can't believe the season is over and we have to wait until the Fall for new shows!!
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Post by tiffanyr on Mar 14, 2018 13:24:34 GMT
I thought it was really good and like you I am now more interested in what's coming next season! Did you notice that Kevin was on the plane with Beth's cousin?!?! I'm wondering what causes Toby's depression but I was glad to see Kate seems to be taking care of him!
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Post by idahomom on Mar 14, 2018 13:27:36 GMT
And Randall and Tess aren't ready to go visit her yet. Who? Mom? Deja?
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Post by disneypal on Mar 14, 2018 13:34:38 GMT
I know - so many questions for next season
Why is Toby depressed? His brother? His parents? His dog? Another baby loss?
We see that Kevin and Beth's cousin met at the wedding but why are they going to Vietnam? (or so it seems that is where they are going)
Who is it time to for Tess to visit? Her mom? Deja? Annie? and where is this person and why hasn't she visited them?
Why did Deja get so mad at Randall when Toby's mom said she looked like him?
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Post by tiffanyr on Mar 14, 2018 13:43:35 GMT
And Randall and Tess aren't ready to go visit her yet. Who? Mom? Deja? Here is my theory on Randall & Tess at the ending. I think Deja wreaked havoc on their family (just like Beth's cousin wreaked havoc on Beth's family when they were young) and Tess resents Deja for it. Now Deja is in jail/prison and Randall is making Tess go with him to visit her. Why did Deja get so mad at Randall when Toby's mom said she looked like him? This threw me off too! I'm not sure what happened there. We see that Kevin and Beth's cousin met at the wedding but why are they going to Vietnam? I was thinking they were going to Cali...never thought about Vietnam. I wondered where the connection was with the photo he was looking at...but I bet that is it! |
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Post by kristi521 on Mar 14, 2018 14:03:38 GMT
And Randall and Tess aren't ready to go visit her yet. Who? Mom? Deja? Here is my theory on Randall & Tess at the ending. I think Deja wreaked havoc on their family (just like Beth's cousin wreaked havoc on Beth's family when they were young) and Tess resents Deja for it. Now Deja is in jail/prison and Randall is making Tess go with him to visit her. Why did Deja get so mad at Randall when Toby's mom said she looked like him? This threw me off too! I'm not sure what happened there. We see that Kevin and Beth's cousin met at the wedding but why are they going to Vietnam? I was thinking they were going to Cali...never thought about Vietnam. I wondered where the connection was with the photo he was looking at...but I bet that is it! I think the picture is of Jack's brother that I believe they said was killed in the Vietnam war. Maybe I am remembering wrong and he was MIA? |
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Post by cme37 on Mar 14, 2018 14:07:57 GMT
Kevin and the cousin (I can't remember her name) are going to Vietnam. They announced they were getting ready to land there.
My theory about Toby is that maybe he is bipolar. He is so over the top with some of the things he does and it makes sense to me that he would crash at some time. Also I wonder if he went into a severe depression during his first marriage and this is why it ended but he didn't tell anyone that was the reason.
I thought Randall and Tessa were talking about Deja. I never even thought about Beth.
I can't believe we have to wait about six months for it to come back!
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Post by melrandamom on Mar 14, 2018 14:10:25 GMT
Why did Deja take a bat to Randall's car??? Is she mad the cousin said she looked like him? Fall is to far away.
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Post by mom on Mar 14, 2018 14:15:32 GMT
I think Toby is bipolar. I also think its possible the tension between him, his mom & dad, and brother cause him to go into depression.
I think Deja is in jail. When Toby's mom told her she looked like Randall it reminded her that she will always be different & not one of the biological kids. Randall mentions its been 10 years (is that right??) since they've seen her. I do wonder what she could have done that after 10 years, 1) she is still in jail and 2) why they haven't been able to forgive her before now. It must have been something huge.
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Post by LilyRose on Mar 14, 2018 14:18:45 GMT
Here is my theory on Randall & Tess at the ending. I think Deja wreaked havoc on their family (just like Beth's cousin wreaked havoc on Beth's family when they were young) and Tess resents Deja for it. Now Deja is in jail/prison and Randall is making Tess go with him to visit her. This threw me off too! I'm not sure what happened there. I was thinking they were going to Cali...never thought about Vietnam. I wondered where the connection was with the photo he was looking at...but I bet that is it! I think the picture is of Jack's brother that I believe they said was killed in the Vietnam war. Maybe I am remembering wrong and he was MIA? Thanks for starting a thread, I’ve been dying to discuss this. I may hop on the “Deja is in jail” bench. I just pulled up my recording from last night and rewatched the scene where Beth and Randall play Worst Case Scenario. The first thing one of them suggests is, “Deja never turns this around and winds up in jail”. Hmm. And so yes, maybe Tess resents that and doesn’t want to see Deja. But remember, Tess liked the idea of foster care so much that she became a social worker, so I’m not sure if that rings true. But if not that, then I don’t know who they are visiting. Beth, Annie? Maybe someone’s grave? Kevin and Beth’s cousin are Vietnam-bound. You hear an announcement made on the plane that they will soon be arriving in Vietnam. I’m sure it has to do with Jack’s brother. Good point about Toby's brother not coming. Wonder why? I loved seeing older Jack. ETA: I forgot to mention Deja and the baseball bat. What’s up with that? I’m not sure I buy it, but my mom thinks that the “spitting image” comment made Deja think that Randall may be her real father she never knew about, and now she’s pissed.  |
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Post by ginacivey on Mar 14, 2018 14:55:16 GMT
i hope the 'exhale' means we can concentrate a little less on the gaping hole that jack left
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 15:15:50 GMT
Well, this show (as usual) had tears swelling in my eyes and my throat in a knot within the first 20 seconds. Only to continue. I am intrigued with the "forward/future" scenes as well. Yes, many questions. But that is what makes a great ending. I thought Kate's dress was beautiful. The only thing I am disappointed in is that Deja is becoming a huge part of this story. I really like the "Big 3" aspect. Regardless, this is a typical emotional ride that only Ken Olin is grand at writing, directing, and producing. This is his age genre. I loved Thirty-Something (back in the day) when I was a young mother and later with Brothers & Sisters (binging now-did not see when on tv). It is great to see that he has not lost his touch with family dynamics and the emotional toll it takes whether positive or negative. I hope he does not retire anytime soon. I am just wondering when his wife Patricia Wettig will show up as a character, or better yet, his daughter who now is an actress. GOOD STUFF!!
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Post by lisae on Mar 14, 2018 17:16:13 GMT
I don't think Randall and Tess are talking about Deja. The viewers aren't invested enough in Deja yet to care what happens to her years down the road. And we aren't going to become invested if we think she brings this kind of sadness to Randall and Tess. I think the 'her' is Beth, Rebecca or Annie. One of them could be sick or something could have happened to Randall and Beth's marriage though I hope not.
I had to agree with Toby's parents that Kate is high maintenance. That doesn't mean they should have waited until then to say anything but then I know from experience you can not talk someone out of marrying who they want to marry. Seeing the preview shows us that the tables are apparently going to turn. I don't think it will be anything Kate does that causes Toby's depression but something else, maybe his work.
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Post by brina on Mar 14, 2018 17:42:25 GMT
Why did Deja get so mad at Randall when Toby's mom said she looked like him? I can tell you from the standpoint of an adopted child I always bit my tongue when somebody told me I looked like a member of my family. Add in that she is dealing with anger at her mother for relinquishing parental rights. Add in that she may not know her bio father at all. Add in that a white stranger is saying that a black child looks like her father, who is not her biological father - can be interpreted as racism. |
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Post by ginacivey on Mar 14, 2018 17:45:41 GMT
Add in that a white stranger is saying that a black child looks like her father, who is not her biological father - can be interpreted as racism. what? people tell my oldest son all the time that she looks like me and we aren't biologically related is it possible that they have some of the same features? she told the girls they look like their mother - probably because of similar features gina |
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Post by Monica* on Mar 14, 2018 17:46:16 GMT
I never thought the "her" Randall and Tess refer to was Deja. Hmmm. I assumed it was Beth, because as soon as that scene ends, they switch to a shot of Beth at the reception. Although it would be just like them to throw us a curveball!
At first when they showed Toby in bed and Kate talking about medication, I thought it was heart-related. But then seeing the glassy look in his eyes, I thought depression. I wonder if they will tie in his parents' concerns they voiced and he will discover they were right all along. They were right that he does have to tip toe around her so as not to set her off. Even though they're married now, still not convinced this is the right union for either of them.
I'm looking forward to some new themes next season. Definitely need to move on from the "Dad's dead and we're all broken" theme which was emotional and beautiful, but played out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 17:50:13 GMT
Well, this show (as usual) had tears swelling in my eyes and my throat in a knot within the first 20 seconds. Only to continue. I am intrigued with the "forward/future" scenes as well. Yes, many questions. But that is what makes a great ending. I thought Kate's dress was beautiful. The only thing I am disappointed in is that Deja is becoming a huge part of this story. I really like the "Big 3" aspect. Regardless, this is a typical emotional ride that only Ken Olin is grand at writing, directing, and producing. This is his age genre. I loved Thirty-Something (back in the day) when I was a young mother and later with Brothers & Sisters (binging now-did not see when on tv). It is great to see that he has not lost his touch with family dynamics and the emotional toll it takes whether positive or negative. I hope he does not retire anytime soon. I am just wondering when his wife Patricia Wettig will show up as a character, or better yet, his daughter who now is an actress. GOOD STUFF!! Did you know that some of the actors from ThirtySomething are actually behind This Is Us (producing, directing...)?? I'll pull up their names when my headache is totally gone, but I know that Ken Olin is one of them....... It does give that same vibe, right?? As far as last night's show: I was disappointed that Kate went off for HOURS to work out her issues. Everyone walks on eggshells with her, and I totally understand her grief, but if I were her sibling or parent, I'd be pissed that she can't formulate words to let people know she's okay at this point! Her mom was worried and then guilty for possibly saying the wrong thing to her. It was RIDICULOUS that the mom had to wait until right before the wedding to hear that Kate wasn't mad at her. Sorry, but that's selfish. Her mom deserves more respect than that. Seems like she still needs better therapy to work past this (or just to work on it). As far as the dreamy scenes with the parents getting remarried, it was so sweet!! The makeup is great, isn't it? They might have aged them a tad too much, but it's cool to see them young, old, etc...... The only thing I didn't appreciate was hearing in the previews that there would be a "special guest". Jack is now a "special guest"? As far as Toby's depression, his parents were BOTH worried about this and discussed it with him before he got married. Apparently he was depressed when his 1st wife left. He's handling a lot, always being the one to reign in Kate and be happy for both of them. MAYBE she'll get a little more grounded once she's helping him through his issues. About Kevin & the cousin going to Vietnam..... Jack has mentioned in a few shows that his brother passed away in Vietnam and didn't come home. Maybe Kevin wanted to go there just to find out more information?? Maybe the cousin had some work there and Kevin wanted to come along? Or maybe Kevin had a gig there and she came along? We'll have to wait and see. It would be SO cool if he were still alive........ Then again, I waited a week to see if Jack was really somehow still alive and they had a renewal of vows (even though she's remarried). I think that Russell and Tess were going to see Deja. It's cool to show Tess working in social work in the future--I could see that! But if they haven't seen her in years, I'm wondering if she's alive. And I HOPE that they're not referring to Beth and she's dead.  |
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Post by brina on Mar 14, 2018 17:53:41 GMT
Add in that a white stranger is saying that a black child looks like her father, who is not her biological father - can be interpreted as racism. what? people tell my oldest son all the time that she looks like me and we aren't biologically related is it possible that they have some of the same features? she told the girls they look like their mother - probably because of similar features gina I didn't say it was, but that it could be interpreted as such, "they all look alike," type of comment. She is a teenager dealing with a great deal of emotional upheaval and this stupid woman tells her she looks like a man she is not related to. And she is also angry with him - with them - she blames them for convincing her mother to relinquish custodial rights. Would you want to be told you look like somebody with whom you are that angry? Somebody you blame for breaking up your family? |
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Post by workingclassdog on Mar 14, 2018 18:23:12 GMT
I think Randall and Tess going to see 'whoever' isn't Deja.. I think it's too obvious. This show always turns the tables. Maybe it's the younger sister? I dunno?
Ken Olin does great TV but never did like thirtysomething. LOVED Brothers & Sisters. And how long will it be before his wife is on this show. She ALWAYS ends up on his shows.. lol
Anyways, I was thinking Kate sitting on the log with her dad was letting go of some of her issues and she is going to be more grounded. To me she kinda wrapped it all up right before she got married. Talking to her mom and such. Now we are going to see her taking on Toby's issues. Whatever that may be?
Anyways.. this final episode is WAY TO EARLY.. we need a few more.. lol.. SIX MONTHS... uggggg
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Post by cadoodlebug on Mar 14, 2018 19:18:56 GMT
I took a very simplistic approach to the comment about Deja looking like Randall while the two daughters look like Beth. Beth is a gorgeous woman and to be told, as a young woman, that you look like Randall is not a compliment. I'm sure there are other, deeper meanings we're supposed to glean from the scene but those were my first thoughts.
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Post by Mel on Mar 14, 2018 19:59:08 GMT
Anyways, I was thinking Kate sitting on the log with her dad was letting go of some of her issues and she is going to be more grounded. To me she kinda wrapped it all up right before she got married. Talking to her mom and such. Now we are going to see her taking on Toby's issues. Whatever that may be? Anyways.. this final episode is WAY TO EARLY.. we need a few more.. lol.. SIX MONTHS... uggggg I think you're on the right track with the Kate thing. I do think that the person they are visiting is Deja. She might not be in jail though. I wonder if beating up Randall's car is just the tip of the iceberg and she does something more to alienate Tess which is why she doesn't see her for 10 years. Maybe Randall, Beth, and Annie have kept in touch with her through all of those years, and it's just Tess that doesn't. Maybe now she is ill/dying and that's why Randall is trying to get Tess to "visit" her. I like the sober Kevin. It would be pretty cool to see him go to Vietnam and learn more about his Uncle (and Jack). Maybe he will turn out to be alive and just didn't want to come home because of the turmoil that was his life at home (alcoholic/abusive Father0. I'm not sure what to think of Toby being in bed. I'm hoping it's not a long-term thing though. I loved the Rebecca/Kate pre-wedding chat. I also loved Kevin's toast, and the exhale part. Chris Sullivan(Toby) was on Jimmy Kimmel last night too but he didn't give anything away! Other than he did say that he is forever trying to slip in the phrase "this is us" but they always catch him and make him retake the scene without it. LOL |
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Post by MrsLeftyFixIt on Mar 14, 2018 19:59:18 GMT
Let me throw this curve ball......
Could Randall and Deja actually be 'related' somehow through his father? Think about those apartments. Didn't his dad live there? Didn't the mom or grandma of Deja's live there also?
Also, this still bothers me.....
Why did Rebecca marry Miguel - Jack's best friend?
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Post by tommygirl on Mar 14, 2018 20:10:18 GMT
I took a very simplistic approach to the comment about Deja looking like Randall while the two daughters look like Beth. Beth is a gorgeous woman and to be told, as a young woman, that you look like Randall is not a compliment. I'm sure there are other, deeper meanings we're supposed to glean from the scene but those were my first thoughts. This was my first thought as well. I am interested to see if Kevin and Beth's cousin/sister are going to find Jack's brother. Tess and Randall -who are they going to see? I first assumed Deja but this show does like to do the unexpected. Loved Kate and Toby's wedding but wondered why Kevin didn't offer Kate the use of Jack's necklace? I guess it would have been too simple a solution. It was really weird that Toby's brother did not come to the wedding. Loved the fact that Kate made progress in her journey of mourning her dad. I also loved her healing with her relationship with her mom too. I am still waiting for us to learn more about Miguel and his relationship with Rebecca. They seem so platonic. I wish they showed their love for each other more. I am wondering if Beth is going to have an alcohol problem at some point. She enjoys a drink. Right now her character is a little too wise and perfect. Didn't her father have addiction issues? I don't think she will like Kevin and her cousin/sister as a couple. I hate that the season is over already. It will be a long wait for the next season! |
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Post by melanell on Mar 14, 2018 20:34:23 GMT
I don't think Randall and Tess are talking about Deja. The viewers aren't invested enough in Deja yet to care what happens to her years down the road. I don't know if they are talking about Deja or not, but I do think many viewers are pretty invested in her. And I think they went out of their way to try to make you more invested in her last week if you didn't already feel that way.  |
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Post by cadoodlebug on Mar 14, 2018 20:38:16 GMT
Loved Jack's screwdriver in Kate's bouquet!
Regarding Rebecca and Miguel: I had a cousin who passed away and his widow told me she would never remarry because he was the love of her life. She met a man and surprised everyone by marrying him. She used to write that my cousin would always be in her heart but that now she was *content*. To me that meant she was happy but not in the same way she was with my cousin.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Mar 14, 2018 20:39:13 GMT
Why did Deja get so mad at Randall when Toby's mom said she looked like him? I can tell you from the standpoint of an adopted child I always bit my tongue when somebody told me I looked like a member of my family. Add in that she is dealing with anger at her mother for relinquishing parental rights. Add in that she may not know her bio father at all. Add in that a white stranger is saying that a black child looks like her father, who is not her biological father - can be interpreted as racism. I definitely have no experience with the white stranger/black child parent appearance portion of the comment... but.... My daughter (who is now 24 and I was not there the day she was born, and her dad and I have been divorced 10 years.. do the math) and I are night and day... she's blonde, freckles and blue eyes. I have dark hair, eyes, and tan easily. People often don't know I wasn't there the day she was born, or for quite a few years afterward as it isn't something we offer as information to acquaintances. The funniest thing is people often remark how alike we look!! I think it's just a "kind" statement. We have a great relationship and most of the complications are in the past between her and her bio mom. We simply laugh about it, and if the person is close enough, we'll explain that there is a saying in the south.. "feed them long enough, they start to look like you." For us, it is comical and funny. I can't imagine how it would feel with raw and unresolved issues. |
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Post by cadoodlebug on Mar 14, 2018 20:39:33 GMT
I don't think Randall and Tess are talking about Deja. The viewers aren't invested enough in Deja yet to care what happens to her years down the road. I don't know if they are talking about Deja or not, but I do think many viewers are pretty invested in her. And I think they went out of their way to try to make you more invested in her last week if you didn't already feel that way. Did we even have a thread last week? If so, I missed it. It really showed where Deja is coming from and what she has been through. |
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Post by disneypal on Mar 14, 2018 20:45:53 GMT
About Kevin & the cousin going to Vietnam..... Jack has mentioned in a few shows that his brother passed away in Vietnam and didn't come home. Maybe Kevin wanted to go there just to find out more information?? I am wondering if maybe Jack's brother's remains were found and Kevin is going there to bring them home I am also wanting to see more back story with Rebecca and Miguel. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 20:53:39 GMT
I can tell you from the standpoint of an adopted child I always bit my tongue when somebody told me I looked like a member of my family. Add in that she is dealing with anger at her mother for relinquishing parental rights. Add in that she may not know her bio father at all. Add in that a white stranger is saying that a black child looks like her father, who is not her biological father - can be interpreted as racism. I definitely have no experience with the white stranger/black child parent appearance portion of the comment... but.... My daughter (who is now 24 and I was not there the day she was born, and her dad and I have been divorced 10 years.. do the math) and I are night and day... she's blonde, freckles and blue eyes. I have dark hair, eyes, and tan easily. People often don't know I wasn't there the day she was born, or for quite a few years afterward as it isn't something we offer as information to acquaintances. The funniest thing is people often remark how alike we look!! I think it's just a "kind" statement. We have a great relationship and most of the complications are in the past between her and her bio mom. We simply laugh about it, and if the person is close enough, we'll explain that there is a saying in the south.. "feed them long enough, they start to look like you." For us, it is comical and funny. I can't imagine how it would feel with raw and unresolved issues. I LOVE that saying! |
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Post by workingclassdog on Mar 14, 2018 20:53:56 GMT
How did I MISS the screwdriver in her bouquet?? Seriously....
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