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Post by lisae on Mar 14, 2018 21:32:10 GMT
I don't think Randall and Tess are talking about Deja. The viewers aren't invested enough in Deja yet to care what happens to her years down the road. I don't know if they are talking about Deja or not, but I do think many viewers are pretty invested in her. And I think they went out of their way to try to make you more invested in her last week if you didn't already feel that way. I think they have made inroads, but it was mainly because of that one episode. I just see the next season unfolding the way this one did where we find out early what happened (this season it was Jack dying in the fire) and then they spend a long time getting to that point. If they show Deja dead or in jail, are we invested enough in her to care how she got there? We probably should care but I'm not sure enough viewers do considering all the problems and stories they still have to flesh out. It took me a long time to care about Toby. When he had the heart attack I was ready to write him out. Now I really like him and am anxious to see his storyline for next year.
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Post by lisae on Mar 14, 2018 21:32:52 GMT
How did I MISS the screwdriver in her bouquet?? Seriously.... I missed it too. I knew there was something different about it, but I didn't get what it was.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Mar 14, 2018 21:39:05 GMT
How did I MISS the screwdriver in her bouquet?? Seriously.... When they focused on the bouquet we immediately knew something of Jack's was there so we rewound a bit and then both laughed and said *it's a screwdriver*!
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Post by pierkiss on Mar 14, 2018 21:44:46 GMT
I don’t watch this show. Don’t hate me!
Is Milo still going to be on it next season? I saw that he shaved the mustache.
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Post by disneypal on Mar 14, 2018 21:49:01 GMT
Is Milo still going to be on it next season? I saw that he shaved the mustache. Yes - he is still going to be on it - they go back and forth between timelines and he will be in story lines that took place in the past
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Post by Mel on Mar 14, 2018 21:49:57 GMT
Yes, he is still going to be on.
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Post by pierkiss on Mar 14, 2018 21:55:15 GMT
Yes, he is still going to be on. Thanks!
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Post by littlemama on Mar 14, 2018 22:42:54 GMT
Randall didn't say that they hadn't seen the person in 10 years, just that things can be very different 10 years down the road (at least that is how I heard it). I assumed that Beth had passed away and they were going to view her body.
The Deja thing, I don't know. She might have felt disloyal to her mom, she might not have thought it was a compliment to be compared to a man, hard to say. The baseball bat to the car was lashing out- her mom just stood in court and said she didn't want her.
And I dislike Kate intensely and I could not believe that she spread Jack's ashes without the knowledge of the family. It is possible that she had their consent, but that was not shown. The best part of the whole show was the Randall/Kevin dynamic. Kate's wedding was just an annoyance to get through.
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on Mar 14, 2018 23:30:18 GMT
About Toby's first marriage ending - I interpreted what his parents said to mean that he was very depressed and the first wife couldn't handle it and left him. I don't remember the exact words, but that is what I thought.
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Post by zella on Mar 14, 2018 23:40:36 GMT
Randall didn't say that they hadn't seen the person in 10 years, just that things can be very different 10 years down the road (at least that is how I heard it). I assumed that Beth had passed away and they were going to view her body. The Deja thing, I don't know. She might have felt disloyal to her mom, she might not have thought it was a compliment to be compared to a man, hard to say. The baseball bat to the car was lashing out- her mom just stood in court and said she didn't want her. And I dislike Kate intensely and I could not believe that she spread Jack's ashes without the knowledge of the family. It is possible that she had their consent, but that was not shown. The best part of the whole show was the Randall/Kevin dynamic. Kate's wedding was just an annoyance to get through. The family spread Jack's ashes the day of his funeral except for a little bit that Kate kept in the urn. We saw the four of them at Jack's tree. So I don't think Kate needed to ask anyone, since it was just "her" little bit of her dad. My problem with this show is that these characters keep doing things that I don't find believable. Really, Kate disappears for HOURS on her wedding day? Even simple hair and makeup (and a nail polish change. . . she had a cream or pale pastel shade on in the pre wedding shots, then blue for the wedding) takes a couple of hours, and she had friends there, and family. I don't buy it. In the peek at what I presume is a year from now, I definitely read that as Toby has severe depression, and I agree with those who've said he might be bipolar. Nothing needs to have happened; he might just be depressed because that happens to him. I presume the Randall/Tess clip is ten years in the future. That one worries me. There have been a lot of mentions of Beth and alcohol this season. I think something happened to Beth. I think it could be something really "out there" like she drives drunk and kills Annie in a crash. I sure hope not, but that's where my mind went. You guys remember last season when Kate went to the "fat camp" and they introduced that guy who basically said to Kate, "You're going to sleep with me?" Don't you wonder now why they bothered with that storyline? Nothing ever came of it, and in retrospect it was just weird.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 1:05:28 GMT
About Toby's first marriage ending - I interpreted what his parents said to mean that he was very depressed and the first wife couldn't handle it and left him. I don't remember the exact words, but that is what I thought. I'd have to put the show on again to make sure, but I could have sworn that they said that the 1st wife left him and then he was depressed. He's shown signs of depression all along, so I'm sure that the coming attractions will be a bump in the road. Anyone with depression (just like weight issues or any addition or any mental health issues) need to have it checked every so often. Thank God he's got Kate to be there and check on him (even though I think she gives him WAY too much to deal with, far too often!!!!!!).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 1:09:41 GMT
About this:
"In the peek at what I presume is a year from now, I definitely read that as Toby has severe depression, and I agree with those who've said he might be bipolar. Nothing needs to have happened; he might just be depressed because that happens to him."
Just because he seems depressed, and Kate says he's going to see his doctor to get his meds checked or changed, doesn't have to insinuate that it's bipolar. Only because I have a bipolar daughter and I've had to figure it all out since she began preschool, am I very familiar with it. He DOES exhibit a lot of severe "over the top" periods, but I don't see him fitting all of the symptoms. He seems like he's got anxiety and depression. We'll see.........
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Post by melanell on Mar 15, 2018 1:42:58 GMT
I took Deja's reaction to Toby's mom's comment differently than most of you seem to have. I took the comment, combined with her taking out her emotions on the car, and paired it up with the fact that last week they made a point to show us, once again, A.)The scene where Randall tells Deja that he sees himself in her and B.) The scene where he reminds her that if she works hard she can have the fancy car and big-ass house.
And when I add those things up, I see a girl who left their house thinking life was about to get better for her & her mom, for real this time. And then they barely get back home and the downward spiral of her life with her mom picks right back up again, and now she's back with Randall & Beth, but her mom is still there and she probably was hoping that Beth & Randall were going to help her mom to improve their immediate situation. Now, that wasn't necessarily a fair or logical or reasonable hope, but I bet a girl that age would have that hope.
Instead, her mom up & leaves. And that had to be a shock. previously, she was taken from he mom, but her mom never left her. And now, she can't be feeling good about herself. She can't be feeling confident about anything happening now or anything that will happen in the future. And when Toby's mom said that to her, I imagine she thought back to him saying that he saw himself in her and her thought was "No, I am nothing like the successful, happy, popular Randall. I am a nobody whose own mother doesn't even want her!", and I'm sure that made her angry, and if she no longer believes she can achieve a good life like Randall did, then the fancy-ass car is one more dream Randall put in her head that she now doesn't believe she can ever achieve. So she therefore took her anger and hurt and fear, etc., out on the car.
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Post by melanell on Mar 15, 2018 1:49:52 GMT
I don't think they meant that the character has been demoted to special guest status on the show. I think they simply meant that we have a surprise special guest "at" the wedding. Because let's face it, most of us weren't expecting to ever see an older Jack or to see him at a current day wedding.
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Post by Rhondito on Mar 15, 2018 2:05:52 GMT
I was irritated the entire episode by Kate searching for something of her dad's to have at the wedding. Why didn't she just borrow the necklace Kevin wears? She could have worn it pinned under her dress, or worked into her bouquet. But I guess that's too logical and would've made half of the episode unnecessary.
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Post by 5peanutsnana on Mar 15, 2018 3:11:00 GMT
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Post by christinec68 on Mar 15, 2018 3:22:20 GMT
I was irritated the entire episode by Kate searching for something of her dad's to have at the wedding. Why didn't she just borrow the necklace Kevin wears? She could have worn it pinned under her dress, or worked into her bouquet. But I guess that's too logical and would've made half of the episode unnecessary. It annoyed me that she didn’t pack the shirt herself.
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Post by melanell on Mar 15, 2018 3:28:07 GMT
I was irritated the entire episode by Kate searching for something of her dad's to have at the wedding. Why didn't she just borrow the necklace Kevin wears? She could have worn it pinned under her dress, or worked into her bouquet. But I guess that's too logical and would've made half of the episode unnecessary. It annoyed me that she didn’t pack the shirt herself. Yeah, that seemed like a weird choice for a plot device. I get that needed a handy reason for his parents to launch into their "Kate's too needy" rant, but that was an odd way to make it happen. I had a few sentimental items I wanted at my wedding, and while I did ask someone to set them in a certain spot for me, I got them ready and make sure they made it to the venue myself.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Mar 15, 2018 5:11:53 GMT
I feel like it has something to do with Annie only because she has not been in any flash-forward scenes. We see grown Tess but no grown Annie. I wonder if something happened to Annie that maybe was partly Deja's fault, and not necessarily that Deja is in jail but that they are estranged. Would Tess be able to forgive someone who might have hurt Annie?
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Post by brina on Mar 15, 2018 11:31:45 GMT
Let me throw this curve ball...... Could Randall and Deja actually be 'related' somehow through his father? Think about those apartments. Didn't his dad live there? Didn't the mom or grandma of Deja's live there also? Also, this still bothers me..... Why did Rebecca marry Miguel - Jack's best friend? while they are similar types of places, I don't think they are the same - Randall was born in Pittsburgh I believe. They are now in NJ. After his relationship with Randall's birth mother William came out as gay - I don't think he would have had other children.
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Post by disneypal on Mar 15, 2018 11:42:31 GMT
I feel like it has something to do with Annie only because she has not been in any flash-forward scenes. We see grown Tess but no grown Annie. That is sort of my thoughts too - I think they want us to think it is Deja or Beth but it will actually have something to do with Annie - that's my guess. Not sure what that could be.
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Post by Really Red on Mar 19, 2018 20:43:17 GMT
I feel like it has something to do with Annie only because she has not been in any flash-forward scenes. We see grown Tess but no grown Annie. That is sort of my thoughts too - I think they want us to think it is Deja or Beth but it will actually have something to do with Annie - that's my guess. Not sure what that could be. I finally got to watch this episode. Very interesting. I think either Beth or Annie is dead as well. I think Deja was probably responsible, inadvertently, for her death. I don't know who they want grown Tess to see, though
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Post by myshelly on Mar 19, 2018 21:01:45 GMT
Randall didn't say that they hadn't seen the person in 10 years, just that things can be very different 10 years down the road (at least that is how I heard it). I assumed that Beth had passed away and they were going to view her body. The Deja thing, I don't know. She might have felt disloyal to her mom, she might not have thought it was a compliment to be compared to a man, hard to say. The baseball bat to the car was lashing out- her mom just stood in court and said she didn't want her. And I dislike Kate intensely and I could not believe that she spread Jack's ashes without the knowledge of the family. It is possible that she had their consent, but that was not shown. The best part of the whole show was the Randall/Kevin dynamic. Kate's wedding was just an annoyance to get through. Why did she need their permission? The family went together to spread the ashes. Everyone spread their share, then Kate alone asked if she could keep some of her part. No one else wanted to keep any. Those were hers.
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Post by melanell on Mar 20, 2018 1:23:07 GMT
Randall didn't say that they hadn't seen the person in 10 years, just that things can be very different 10 years down the road (at least that is how I heard it). I assumed that Beth had passed away and they were going to view her body. The Deja thing, I don't know. She might have felt disloyal to her mom, she might not have thought it was a compliment to be compared to a man, hard to say. The baseball bat to the car was lashing out- her mom just stood in court and said she didn't want her. And I dislike Kate intensely and I could not believe that she spread Jack's ashes without the knowledge of the family. It is possible that she had their consent, but that was not shown. The best part of the whole show was the Randall/Kevin dynamic. Kate's wedding was just an annoyance to get through. Why did she need their permission? The family went together to spread the ashes. Everyone spread their share, then Kate alone asked if she could keep some of her part. No one else wanted to keep any. Those were hers. Not only that, but going by Randall & Kevin's reactions, I thought they were quite pleased that she was able to do that.
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Post by magenta on Mar 20, 2018 1:55:07 GMT
Did anyone recognize the guy in the ice cream parlor? It was driving me crazy until I looked him up. He was a contestant on American Idol years ago. I knew he looked familiar.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Mar 20, 2018 2:51:23 GMT
My friend google totally knew who he was: Linky
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Post by PeachStatePea on Mar 25, 2018 23:56:02 GMT
I just got around to watching this.
I don't think Randall and Tessa were talking about Deja because that's too obvious and this show likes to plant false clues.
Rebecca and Miguel - I kind of remember one of them saying they were together because they both loved Jack and that was a strong bond between them.
I liked seeing Kevin and Beth's cousin together in the future. Also, at the end of the episode where Jack died they showed a clip of him in VietNam and said something like "we haven't seen the last of Jack", so I see a storyline of seeing Jack there during the war and Kevin there now.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Mar 26, 2018 2:39:15 GMT
Let me throw this curve ball...... Could Randall and Deja actually be 'related' somehow through his father? Think about those apartments. Didn't his dad live there? Didn't the mom or grandma of Deja's live there also? Also, this still bothers me..... Why did Rebecca marry Miguel - Jack's best friend? I don’t find it all that strange that they got married. During one episode this season you see them reconnect (on FB I think?), and Rebecca somehow mentions they hadn’t seen each other in 5 years. So that puts to rest any concerns that they may have gotten together immediately after Jack’s death, which wouldn’t be so believable. I can understand how meeting up 5 years later could lead to.a relationship given their history and shared (mostly happy) memories. Miguel is probably the one man that could understand the depth of her feelings for Jack and accept them as part of their marriage.
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Post by jumperhop on Mar 26, 2018 2:54:00 GMT
I just wanted to say thank you to Toby’s parents for saying exactly what I was thinking. Jen
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Post by scrappintoee on Mar 26, 2018 22:37:26 GMT
I finally watched last night. It's so interesting to read everyones' theories on what might happen. I can't believe the season is OVER already !!!!!!!
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