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Post by crimsoncat05 on Mar 22, 2018 22:02:43 GMT
I also heard Rachel Maddow (? maybe it was Chris Hayes) talking about a SECOND woman who had a consensual affair with Trump around the same time, and who was ALSO paid off $150,000 in a non-disclosure agreement in 2016 to keep quiet about it. That case was a bit different because the entity that paid her was AMI, the parent company of the National Enquirer, which is who she gave her story to. They paid her to squash the story, basically. BUT, the head of AMI was a friend of Trump's, so it still has the whiff of his BS all over it. Move along... nothing to see here, nosirree!! /s. 6) And I guess I really don't understand the sway of money or power because the thought of having relations with that man is so disgusting. ^^^ oh, I totally agree!! no matter HOW long ago it might have been; that smarmy smile of his (I'm not thinking anywhere below the neck at all- blech!!!) would have turned my stomach, and not in a good way!
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Post by AmandaA on Mar 22, 2018 23:05:01 GMT
I also heard Rachel Maddow (? maybe it was Chris Hayes) talking about a SECOND woman who had a consensual affair with Trump around the same time, and who was ALSO paid off $150,000 in a non-disclosure agreement in 2016 to keep quiet about it. That case was a bit different because the entity that paid her was AMI, the parent company of the National Enquirer, which is who she gave her story to. They paid her to squash the story, basically. BUT, the head of AMI was a friend of Trump's, so it still has the whiff of his BS all over it. Move along... nothing to see here, nosirree!! /s. 6) And I guess I really don't understand the sway of money or power because the thought of having relations with that man is so disgusting. ^^^ oh, I totally agree!! no matter HOW long ago it might have been; that smarmy smile of his (I'm not thinking anywhere below the neck at all- blech!!!) would have turned my stomach, and not in a good way!I wish they would find a new picture of him with Stormy Daniels to use for news stories... every time I see that one of him all red faced and smirking like a teenage boy that just got laid for the first time, I want to puke .
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Mar 22, 2018 23:21:48 GMT
I also heard Rachel Maddow (? maybe it was Chris Hayes) talking about a SECOND woman who had a consensual affair with Trump around the same time, and who was ALSO paid off $150,000 in a non-disclosure agreement in 2016 to keep quiet about it. That case was a bit different because the entity that paid her was AMI, the parent company of the National Enquirer, which is who she gave her story to. They paid her to squash the story, basically. BUT, the head of AMI was a friend of Trump's, so it still has the whiff of his BS all over it. Move along... nothing to see here, nosirree!! /s. 6) And I guess I really don't understand the sway of money or power because the thought of having relations with that man is so disgusting. ^^^ oh, I totally agree!! no matter HOW long ago it might have been; that smarmy smile of his (I'm not thinking anywhere below the neck at all- blech!!!) would have turned my stomach, and not in a good way! Yep - Karen McDougal. I read an in depth article on her and it was interesting (and icky).
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Post by AmandaA on Mar 22, 2018 23:38:56 GMT
Just saw that she will be talking with Anderson Cooper tonight at 8:00
eta- it will be a recorded interview, not live
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 15:56:24 GMT
This Daniels/EC LLC contract must have been one of the worst contracts ever crafted.
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Post by samantha25 on Mar 29, 2018 21:42:41 GMT
I found this a helpful thread on the contracts, suits, counter-suits, "and/or" signatories, etc. @zingermack .. I liked this post from Seth Abramson and started reading more from him. Do you read his posts? Quite interesting on the Russia story... not sure if it falls in the conspiracy theory or following the trail category, but a good read. TIA
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Post by verdepea on Apr 16, 2018 21:51:00 GMT
Man am I impressed with Stormy Daniels attorney and Stormy. Michael is a shark and he has filled Stormy with confidence. Go Stormy!! We can handle the truth.
And Sean Hannity, maybe it is about real estate. If so it won't matter, because it's not covered under the warrant. I hope you are starting to regret this presidency.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Apr 16, 2018 22:04:17 GMT
wow, he denied there was an affair, then there is the poorly written hush agreement, that is not fully signed by the parties (not a lawyer, but believe that unless all the parties sign an agreement, there is no agreement). and how do you hold made up named people accountable...no one in the agreement used their real name, except for a notary whose only contribution to the document is her seal. looks to me like trump's case should be thrown out. Not a Trump fan at all, and I’m hoping the agreement doesn’t hold up. However, the fact that Trump did not sign does not necessarily invalidate the agreement. He did what he had to do—paid her the check, or at least had his attorney pay her—and that action, followed by her cashing it, can complete the contract. I haven’t read the contract, so I don’t know if there were other things required under the contract that were not done, but if his only obligation was to pay her, he may have a claim. As for using fake names, I understand there was a corresponding document that spells out who was who in the agreement, so I don’t think using pseudonyms will necessarily invalidate the contract. That would probably only be the case if the identities of the parties were disputed, but in this case, there is no doubt about the parties to the contract. Now, if Trump was truly “unaware” of the agreement as he has claimed in the past, then there may be an argument that the contract was not valid because Cohen did not sign it on his behalf as power of attorney or as Trump’s agent. ETA I just read a couple of posts above. If the contract included Trump agreeing to drop claims against Stormy, that might be additional “consideration” required to complete the contract. But was that just boilerplate language in a fill-in-the-blank contract that Cohen used for all of Trump’s NDAs? Did Trump really have claims against her that needed to be dropped? Or was it just some catch all language?
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 16, 2018 22:10:04 GMT
Wonderful. I keep thinking about that Dorothy Parker quote: “What fresh hell is this?”
He always keeps us guessing.
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Post by dewryce on Apr 16, 2018 22:12:43 GMT
Man am I impressed with Stormy Daniels attorney and Stormy. Michael is a shark and he has filled Stormy with confidence. Go Stormy!! We can handle the truth. And Sean Hannity, maybe it is about real estate. If so it won't matter, because it's not covered under the warrant. I hope you are starting to regret this presidency. Does Cohen specialize in real estate law? Serious question, does Cohen practice much law in general? I've read a lot about him basically being a fixer but surely he can't make his living providing only that service to so few people. Unless he makes a ton of money off his taxi token(s). eta: Of course, considering his client list, maybe that is enough business to keep him rolling in it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 22:24:41 GMT
Man am I impressed with Stormy Daniels attorney and Stormy. Michael is a shark and he has filled Stormy with confidence. Go Stormy!! We can handle the truth. And Sean Hannity, maybe it is about real estate. If so it won't matter, because it's not covered under the warrant. I hope you are starting to regret this presidency. Is this a joke? She's a porn chick. As in she gets paid to have sex on camera. And she's got stripping gigs lined up for months. She's got plenty of confidence. What she also has is plenty of regret. She regrets cashing in right before the election for a mere $130,000. Like half the country, she didn't think Trump would win so she took what she could. After he won, I bet she went "oh shit" cause she could have got a lot more had she held out. NOW she wants to tell her story. I bet she does.
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Post by verdepea on Apr 16, 2018 22:33:16 GMT
Man am I impressed with Stormy Daniels attorney and Stormy. Michael is a shark and he has filled Stormy with confidence. Go Stormy!! We can handle the truth. And Sean Hannity, maybe it is about real estate. If so it won't matter, because it's not covered under the warrant. I hope you are starting to regret this presidency. Does Cohen specialize in real estate law? Serious question, does Cohen practice much law in general? I've read a lot about him basically being a fixer but surely he can't make his living providing only that service to so few people. Unless he makes a ton of money off his taxi token(s). eta: Of course, considering his client list, maybe that is enough business to keep him rolling in it. I don't know, but I don't think so. Tje bigger question is why dodnt Hannity disclosed this on his show? He and Fox didn't, then lied about it, then made the $10 attorney privilege snark, and now he was a client of a well known fixer. Beep, beep, the wheels on the Stormy bus go round and round..look out Sean the Stormy's Karma bus is coming your way. I hope your conspiracy opinion show has tire marks on it when the week is done... Damn this got me all excited and the judge denied Cohen's request to keep the files from being read. is Cohen so dense he didn't go thought to being under investigation?
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Post by inkedup on Apr 16, 2018 22:36:45 GMT
Man am I impressed with Stormy Daniels attorney and Stormy. Michael is a shark and he has filled Stormy with confidence. Go Stormy!! We can handle the truth. And Sean Hannity, maybe it is about real estate. If so it won't matter, because it's not covered under the warrant. I hope you are starting to regret this presidency. Is this a joke? She's a porn chick. As in she gets paid to have sex on camera. And she's got stripping gigs lined up for months. She's got plenty of confidence. What she also has is plenty of regret. She regrets cashing in right before the election for a mere $130,000. Like half the country, she didn't think Trump would win so she took what she could. After he won, I bet she went "oh shit" cause she could have got a lot more had she held out. NOW she wants to tell her story. I bet she does. I love how you're attempting to defend Donald Trump by disparaging Stormy Daniels. Yes, she is/was a "porn chick", "paid to have sex on camera." If this makes her a bad person, what does it say about the MARRIED man who chose to engage in an extramarital affair with her while his wife cared for their newborn baby?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 22:38:18 GMT
Man am I impressed with Stormy Daniels attorney and Stormy. Michael is a shark and he has filled Stormy with confidence. Go Stormy!! We can handle the truth. And Sean Hannity, maybe it is about real estate. If so it won't matter, because it's not covered under the warrant. I hope you are starting to regret this presidency. Is this a joke? She's a porn chick. As in she gets paid to have sex on camera. And she's got stripping gigs lined up for months. She's got plenty of confidence. What she also has is plenty of regret. She regrets cashing in right before the election for a mere $130,000. Like half the country, she didn't think Trump would win so she took what she could. After he won, I bet she went "oh shit" cause she could have got a lot more had she held out. NOW she wants to tell her story. I bet she does. Why so angry at Stormy? Why not Trump for breaking his marital vows? Yet again. I guess that doesn't matter. I bet you blame the rape victims too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 22:46:01 GMT
Is this a joke? She's a porn chick. As in she gets paid to have sex on camera. And she's got stripping gigs lined up for months. She's got plenty of confidence. What she also has is plenty of regret. She regrets cashing in right before the election for a mere $130,000. Like half the country, she didn't think Trump would win so she took what she could. After he won, I bet she went "oh shit" cause she could have got a lot more had she held out. NOW she wants to tell her story. I bet she does. I love how you're attempting to defend Donald Trump by disparaging Stormy Daniels. Yes, she is/was a "porn chick", "paid to have sex on camera." If this makes her a bad person, what does it say about the MARRIED man who chose to engage in an extramarital affair with her while his wife cared for their newborn baby? My comment has nothing to do with Trump. Painting Stormy as an innocent victim is laughable. She's pissed she cashed in too early. She has every right to make her money, and tell her story. But taking that $130,000 was good enough. Until it wasn't. I absolutely believe Trump screwed her. And I believe he screwed the Playboy bunny. That has nothing to do with her all of a sudden being a "victim." What a crock.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 16, 2018 22:47:34 GMT
Honestly, if Trump just said, "Yeah, I had the affair. What of it?" All of this would go away. His base knows he sleazy, his opposition knows he's sleazy. There is not one person on this planet that can be at all surprised by his sleazy behavior at this point. Funny that campaign finance and porn star hush money might be what takes this emmer effer down. Makes you wonder what might be in his prenup. But, one would think a man with a history of affairs while married (well, at least one because his affair with Marla Maples was public while he was married to Ivana Trump) would not have a clause about affairs that might hurt him financially. I don't know much about prenups but I would think cheating might be covered. If Melania had the advice of a good attorney, any affair clause that applied to her would apply to him as well. Or maybe there isn’t one for either of them. It will depend on how good her attorney was and how desperate he was to get her to sign. Remember, she left him before they married at one point, so I’m pretty sure she protected herself before she signed anything. She was willing to walk at that point so there was some negotiation going on. Would be silly not to protect yourself in a prenup considering his reputation and she doesn’t strike me as silly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 22:48:13 GMT
Is this a joke? She's a porn chick. As in she gets paid to have sex on camera. And she's got stripping gigs lined up for months. She's got plenty of confidence. What she also has is plenty of regret. She regrets cashing in right before the election for a mere $130,000. Like half the country, she didn't think Trump would win so she took what she could. After he won, I bet she went "oh shit" cause she could have got a lot more had she held out. NOW she wants to tell her story. I bet she does. Why so angry at Stormy? Why not Trump for breaking his marital vows? Yet again. I guess that doesn't matter. I bet you blame the rape victims too.Oh, Dear Lord. Over the top much? So Trump broke his vows. And? That's between him and his wife and his family. Stormy took the money. Unless a gun was put to her head, she's no victim. She's a businesswoman. She took a gamble and cashed in before he won. She regrets it.
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Post by peasquared on Apr 16, 2018 22:50:53 GMT
I love how you're attempting to defend Donald Trump by disparaging Stormy Daniels. Yes, she is/was a "porn chick", "paid to have sex on camera." If this makes her a bad person, what does it say about the MARRIED man who chose to engage in an extramarital affair with her while his wife cared for their newborn baby? My comment has nothing to do with Trump. Painting Stormy as an innocent victim is laughable. She's pissed she cashed in too early. She has every right to make her money, and tell her story. But taking that $130,000 was good enough. Until it wasn't. I absolutely believe Trump screwed her. And I believe he screwed the Playboy bunny. That has nothing to do with her all of a sudden being a "victim." What a crock. Who called her a victim?
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Post by verdepea on Apr 16, 2018 22:52:46 GMT
Man am I impressed with Stormy Daniels attorney and Stormy. Michael is a shark and he has filled Stormy with confidence. Go Stormy!! We can handle the truth. And Sean Hannity, maybe it is about real estate. If so it won't matter, because it's not covered under the warrant. I hope you are starting to regret this presidency. Is this a joke? She's a porn chick. As in she gets paid to have sex on camera. And she's got stripping gigs lined up for months. She's got plenty of confidence. What she also has is plenty of regret. She regrets cashing in right before the election for a mere $130,000. Like half the country, she didn't think Trump would win so she took what she could. After he won, I bet she went "oh shit" cause she could have got a lot more had she held out. NOW she wants to tell her story. I bet she does. A porn star and her brilliant attorney have pulled the rug out from under the "The Art of the Deal's" attorney and Deal Maker Himself and they are kicking their ass and taking names along the way. That takes a lot of nerve, a lot, no matter who you are. Several high powered "Men" won't do it. She was threatened and her daughter was threatened. She has a lot more nerve than I have that's for sure. Trump doesn't care how he makes his money. Stormy Daniel's has a legit career in porn. What is the problem, SEX is a trade If she gets more gigs or book money there is no shame in it. None at all...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 23:11:27 GMT
I don't understand how TF this agreement is valid. How can an LLC bind the person of Donald J. Trump or David Dennison to terms if neither Donald Trump nor David Dennison is a signatory to the contract. Can I sign a contract w/an LLC to bind Beyonce to give me $10,000,000 if she doesn't sing at my bday?
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Post by Merge on Apr 16, 2018 23:33:17 GMT
Man am I impressed with Stormy Daniels attorney and Stormy. Michael is a shark and he has filled Stormy with confidence. Go Stormy!! We can handle the truth. And Sean Hannity, maybe it is about real estate. If so it won't matter, because it's not covered under the warrant. I hope you are starting to regret this presidency. Is this a joke? She's a porn chick. As in she gets paid to have sex on camera. And she's got stripping gigs lined up for months. She's got plenty of confidence. What she also has is plenty of regret. She regrets cashing in right before the election for a mere $130,000. Like half the country, she didn't think Trump would win so she took what she could. After he won, I bet she went "oh shit" cause she could have got a lot more had she held out. NOW she wants to tell her story. I bet she does. You're assuming that the fact of the sexual encounter is the only thing she was paid to hush up. We don't know what other circumstances might have surrounded their affair, that were included in the NDA by virtue of being tied to the affair. It may be nothing, and you might be right about it being a cash grab after the fact, but I wouldn't go assuming that at this point. There's a reason Trump and Cohen are so freaked out by the idea of investigators having access to their communications. Remember, the only way to get a warrant to seize documents normally protected by attorney-client privilege is to convince a judge that you have good reason to believe the lawyer helped the client commit a crime.
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Post by LeaP on Apr 16, 2018 23:39:48 GMT
I love how you're attempting to defend Donald Trump by disparaging Stormy Daniels. Yes, she is/was a "porn chick", "paid to have sex on camera." If this makes her a bad person, what does it say about the MARRIED man who chose to engage in an extramarital affair with her while his wife cared for their newborn baby? My comment has nothing to do with Trump. Painting Stormy as an innocent victim is laughable. She's pissed she cashed in too early. She has every right to make her money, and tell her story. But taking that $130,000 was good enough. Until it wasn't. I absolutely believe Trump screwed her. And I believe he screwed the Playboy bunny. That has nothing to do with her all of a sudden being a "victim." What a crock. Stormy's original lawyer also represented the Playboy bunny and Eliot Brody's Playmate. There are questions about if he represented them properly. His name is Keith Davidson, you can Google him and see for yourself. SaveSave
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 16, 2018 23:55:19 GMT
I absolutely believe Trump screwed her. And I believe he screwed the Playboy bunny. That has nothing to do with her all of a sudden being a "victim." What a crock. Concerning sex, she is not a victim and she stated that in the interview. However she and her DD were threatened, THAT makes them both victims!
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Post by hop2 on Apr 17, 2018 0:39:44 GMT
I don't understand how TF this agreement is valid. How can an LLC bind the person of Donald J. Trump or David Dennison to terms if neither Donald Trump nor David Dennison is a signatory to the contract. Can I sign a contract w/an LLC to bind Beyonce to give me $10,000,000 if she doesn't sing at my bday? worth a shot I guess 😜
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 14:03:53 GMT
Why so angry at Stormy? Why not Trump for breaking his marital vows? Yet again. I guess that doesn't matter. I bet you blame the rape victims too.Oh, Dear Lord. Over the top much? So Trump broke his vows. And? That's between him and his wife and his family. Stormy took the money. Unless a gun was put to her head, she's no victim. She's a businesswoman. She took a gamble and cashed in before he won. She regrets it. Yes we finally agree on something. Which is exactly what us lgbt supporters are trying to say. Who cares what they do behind closed doors. It's none of our business. Who cares if Trump is a pervert that has to seek out other women rather than be intimate with his wife/wives. And the point of this entire matter is not that they had sex, it's the illegal financial transaction. But of course, Sean Hannity won't tell you that. And honestly, I do appreciate that you speak up. But I'm just so amazed by what you turn a blind eye to.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 15:22:16 GMT
Oh, Dear Lord. Over the top much? So Trump broke his vows. And? That's between him and his wife and his family. Stormy took the money. Unless a gun was put to her head, she's no victim. She's a businesswoman. She took a gamble and cashed in before he won. She regrets it. Yes we finally agree on something. Which is exactly what us lgbt supporters are trying to say. Who cares what they do behind closed doors. It's none of our business. Who cares if Trump is a pervert that has to seek out other women rather than be intimate with his wife/wives. And the point of this entire matter is not that they had sex, it's the illegal financial transaction. But of course, Sean Hannity won't tell you that. And honestly, I do appreciate that you speak up. But I'm just so amazed by what you turn a blind eye to. I responded to a very specific comment made upthread. I quoted and even bolded what I was responding to: "Man am I impressed with Stormy Daniels attorney and Stormy. Michael is a shark and he has filled Stormy with confidence. Go Stormy!! We can handle the truth." My stating I don't think she lacks self-confidence because of what she does for a living has turned into an accusation of me defending Trump and that I'd blame rape victims. This has gone even further now into support of the LGBTQ community (or lack thereof, are you saying from me?), Sean Hannity, and my supposed turning of a blind eye. I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. I'm capable of believing this is a well-planned business move by Stormy Daniels AND believing that Trump's in trouble with this payment with the possibility broken campaign finance laws. I can do both at the same time. However my specific response was about Daniels' confidence (or lack thereof as suggested).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 15:40:55 GMT
My comment has nothing to do with Trump. Painting Stormy as an innocent victim is laughable. She's pissed she cashed in too early. She has every right to make her money, and tell her story. But taking that $130,000 was good enough. Until it wasn't. I absolutely believe Trump screwed her. And I believe he screwed the Playboy bunny. That has nothing to do with her all of a sudden being a "victim." What a crock. Who called her a victim? Daniels' comments after court: “He's played by a different set of rules, or should we say no rules at all. He has never thought that the little man, or especially women, and even more women like me, matter. That ends now. “My attorney and I are committed to making sure that everyone finds out the truth and the facts of what happened, and I give my word that we will not rest until that happens.” When I heard what I bolded above, it sounds to ME like she's saying she's a victim of Cohen (not Trump because she, herself, already said she's not a victim of him). In a previous interview she said someone threatened her. She also said she didn't know who. She went on to say said she never saw the person again. Cohen? On behalf of Cohen? Cohen on behalf of Trump? Maybe. Maybe not. I'd even go so far as to say probably. Whatever happened, it didn't stop her from signing the NDA AND taking the money. If it comes out Cohen threatened her, then that's an entirely different story. Until then, it appears on the surface a business transaction she agreed to.
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Post by amom23 on Apr 17, 2018 15:54:55 GMT
In the end it all comes down to the fact that if Donald would have kept his dick in his pants there never would have been a Stormy Daniels to begin with so all this is his own damn fault.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 16:35:56 GMT
Nice summary:
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