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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 16:57:26 GMT
linkSo trump did pay a porn star to keep quite about their sexual relationship. I say let the all sordid details come out. I mean all political candidates are vetted and then vetted again so why shouldn’t that be the same for trump? From Buzzfeed... “ Trump Joins Legal Fight In Stormy Daniels' Lawsuit To End Her "Hush Agreement"Lawyers for the company behind the 2016 payment say they could seek as much as $20 million from Stephanie Clifford, who goes by Stormy Daniels, for alleged breaches of the agreement. President Donald Trump has joined the legal fight over whether a woman is bound by an agreement she signed in 2016 to keep quiet about their alleged affair.Stephanie Clifford, the adult film performer and director known as Stormy Daniels, sued Trump and the company set up by longtime Trump lawyer Michael Cohen in 2016 to pay Clifford to keep quiet. Lawyers for that company, Essential Consultants (EC), filed a notice Friday afternoon in California to remove her case from state court to federal court and asserted that, under the 2016 agreement, they could seek damages of at least $20 million. Charles Harder, an attorney best known for representing Hulk Hogan in his legal fight against Gawker, filed a notice on behalf of Trump joining in the removal. "Mr. Trump intends to join in EC’s anticipated Petition to Compel Arbitration under the Arbitration Agreement," he announced. In Clifford's lawsuit, her lawyer, Michael Avenatti, claims that the settlement agreement and therefore its confidentiality provisions — which they call a "hush agreement" — were never valid because Trump did not sign the agreement. He also argues that the agreement should be found to be invalid as counter to public policy. "This is simply more of the same bullying tactics from the president and Mr. Cohen. They are now attempting to remove this case in order to increase their chances that the matter will ultimately be decided in private arbitration, behind closed doors, outside of public view and scrutiny," Avenatti told BuzzFeed News. "To put it simply — they want to hide the truth from the American people. We will oppose this effort at every turn." In its removal notice, EC makes clear it will defend the validity of the agreement and its requirement that any dispute be settled by arbitration. "EC is aware of at least twenty (20) violations by Clifford of the confidentiality provisions of the Settlement Agreement," Brent Blakely, the lawyer for EC, wrote. Due to a provision in the agreement that each breach of the confidentiality provisions could lead to $1 million in damages, Blakely argues that "EC and/or Defendant Trump have the right to seek liquidated damages against Clifford for her numerous breaches" in the arbitration for an amount "approximated to already be in excess of twenty million dollars ($20,000,000)." Regarding that claim, Avenatti told BuzzFeed News, "The fact that a sitting president is pursuing over $20 million in bogus 'damages' against a private citizen, who is only trying to tell the public what really happened, is truly remarkable. Likely unprecedented in our history. We are not going away and we will not be intimidated by these threats." Earlier this month, Clifford sat down with Anderson Cooper for an interview, which 60 Minutes plans to air later this month. Lawyers for Trump and EC did not immediately respond to requests for comment on the filings and Avenatti's comments Friday evening.”
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Mar 17, 2018 20:17:21 GMT
But he didn’t have an affair with her or pay her off or sign an agreement...
Discovery is going to be lit.
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Post by trollie on Mar 17, 2018 20:22:14 GMT
I am willing to contribute to a Go Fund Me to help Ms. Daniels pay for the lawsuit. Tell you story Stormy! Release the pics and the texts!
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Post by trollie on Mar 17, 2018 20:23:45 GMT
And I really hope Milania divorces her sleazy, slimy, disgusting husband. What an effing DICK.
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Post by MichyM on Mar 17, 2018 20:30:50 GMT
Wow. I think I'm speechless.
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Post by eleezybeth on Mar 17, 2018 20:40:30 GMT
But he didn’t have an affair with her or pay her off or sign an agreement... Discovery is going to be lit. Right? But he is a man of his word! #showusthetexts! #butnopictures #noneofuswanttoseethat #notevenTMZ!
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Post by txdancermom on Mar 17, 2018 20:55:48 GMT
wow, he denied there was an affair, then there is the poorly written hush agreement, that is not fully signed by the parties (not a lawyer, but believe that unless all the parties sign an agreement, there is no agreement). and how do you hold made up named people accountable...no one in the agreement used their real name, except for a notary whose only contribution to the document is her seal.
looks to me like trump's case should be thrown out.
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Post by uksue on Mar 17, 2018 20:59:48 GMT
I hate to be disrespectful to any of the POTUS , but Trump really makes my skin crawl . More as time goes on.
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Post by trollie on Mar 17, 2018 21:10:14 GMT
Honestly, if Trump just said, "Yeah, I had the affair. What of it?" All of this would go away. His base knows he sleazy, his opposition knows he's sleazy. There is not one person on this planet that can be at all surprised by his sleazy behavior at this point. Funny that campaign finance and porn star hush money might be what takes this emmer effer down.
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Post by melissa on Mar 17, 2018 21:39:10 GMT
Honestly, if Trump just said, "Yeah, I had the affair. What of it?" All of this would go away. His base knows he sleazy, his opposition knows he's sleazy. There is not one person on this planet that can be at all surprised by his sleazy behavior at this point. Funny that campaign finance and porn star hush money might be what takes this emmer effer down. Makes you wonder what might be in his prenup. But, one would think a man with a history of affairs while married (well, at least one because his affair with Marla Maples was public while he was married to Ivana Trump) would not have a clause about affairs that might hurt him financially. I don't know much about prenups but I would think cheating might be covered.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 21:57:31 GMT
Michael Avenatti...
“How can President Donald Trump seek $20 million in damages against my client based on an agreement that he and Mr. Cohen claim Mr. Trump never was a party to and knew nothing about? #notwellthoughtout #sloppy #checkmate”
Good question.
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Post by lisae on Mar 17, 2018 22:14:21 GMT
Honestly, if Trump just said, "Yeah, I had the affair. What of it?" All of this would go away. His base knows he sleazy, his opposition knows he's sleazy. There is not one person on this planet that can be at all surprised by his sleazy behavior at this point. Funny that campaign finance and porn star hush money might be what takes this emmer effer down. Yes, he clearly learned nothing from Bill Clinton. It's not what they do, it's the cover-up that gets them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 22:26:45 GMT
Does Stormy even have $20 million? If so, damn I'm in the wrong business.
Seriously though, this has got to be a pretty substantial secret. His thugs have threatened physical harm to her and now financial threats. He hasn't outright bullied her publicly. He does that with everyone who he thinks he can win against. Why does he think her information is so powerful?
I've been reading all the guesses but I haven't seen this one yet: They had a threesome with another man and Trump was with intimate with the man. I mean, really, what could possibly upset his base as much as homosexuality. It's far fetched I know. But wow, he is desperately trying to bury something yuuuuge.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 17, 2018 23:11:47 GMT
I've been reading all the guesses but I haven't seen this one yet: They had a threesome with another man and Trump was with intimate with the man. I mean, really, what could possibly upset his base as much as homosexuality. It's far fetched I know. But wow, he is desperately trying to bury something yuuuuge. Hummmmmmmmmm ..... Interesting!
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 17, 2018 23:39:23 GMT
I can’t figure out what he is trying to hide, either. It must be big, but I am surprised she would settle for $130,000
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Post by annabella on Mar 17, 2018 23:45:06 GMT
I am willing to contribute to a Go Fund Me to help Ms. Daniels pay for the lawsuit. Tell you story Stormy! Release the pics and the texts! www.crowdjustice.com/case/stormy/
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Post by trollie on Mar 18, 2018 0:23:12 GMT
I am willing to contribute to a Go Fund Me to help Ms. Daniels pay for the lawsuit. Tell you story Stormy! Release the pics and the texts! www.crowdjustice.com/case/stormy/THANK YOU!!!
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Post by pyccku on Mar 18, 2018 0:58:17 GMT
I can’t figure out what he is trying to hide, either. It must be big, but I am surprised she would settle for $130,000 It might not be big. It might be very, very tiny.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Mar 18, 2018 1:51:09 GMT
I can’t figure out what he is trying to hide, either. It must be big, but I am surprised she would settle for $130,000 from the interview with her attorney that I heard earlier today, apparently the amount will 'make sense' once we hear on her interview on 60 Minutes... what that means exactly, I have no idea. But I really hope that interview gets to air.
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Post by Just T on Mar 18, 2018 1:56:48 GMT
Sheesh. Is this sh!t show ever going to end?? How in he!! anyone can still defend this man is mind boggling.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 18, 2018 2:23:20 GMT
I can’t figure out what he is trying to hide, either. It must be big, but I am surprised she would settle for $130,000 from the interview with her attorney that I heard earlier today, apparently the amount will 'make sense' once we hear on her interview on 60 Minutes... what that means exactly, I have no idea. But I really hope that interview gets to air. Now I am even more curious!
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Post by vspindler on Mar 18, 2018 2:46:25 GMT
Does Stormy even have $20 million? If so, damn I'm in the wrong business. Probably not until the tell all book and made for TV movie are done
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 12:22:24 GMT
I'm guessing she had an abortion at the time of the affair. Then when it became obvious that he was the presidential candidate they were trying to clean up any dirt on him that could be revealed. His lawyer paid her off to keep quiet. Otherwise why wait until 2006 to pay her off when the affair happened years before that....unless of course it was still going on!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 12:24:51 GMT
I can’t figure out what he is trying to hide, either. It must be big, but I am surprised she would settle for $130,000 from the interview with her attorney that I heard earlier today, apparently the amount will 'make sense' once we hear on her interview on 60 Minutes... what that means exactly, I have no idea. But I really hope that interview gets to air. Did she perhaps tell him that was the amount she would get paid by going to the media and to keep her quiet the lawyer matched it? It's a possibility.
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Post by elaine on Mar 18, 2018 12:32:17 GMT
Does Stormy even have $20 million? If so, damn I'm in the wrong business. Seriously though, this has got to be a pretty substantial secret. His thugs have threatened physical harm to her and now financial threats. He hasn't outright bullied her publicly. He does that with everyone who he thinks he can win against. Why does he think her information is so powerful? I've been reading all the guesses but I haven't seen this one yet: They had a threesome with another man and Trump was with intimate with the man. I mean, really, what could possibly upset his base as much as homosexuality. It's far fetched I know. But wow, he is desperately trying to bury something yuuuuge. Stormy might not have $20 million, but I think she does have millions. She is one of the most successful Porn Movie Directors in the business.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 18, 2018 13:02:24 GMT
Does Stormy even have $20 million? If so, damn I'm in the wrong business. Probably not until the tell all book and made for TV movie are done yeah maybe not Alec Baldwin isn’t cheap to hire
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Post by gardengoddess on Mar 18, 2018 16:08:26 GMT
Honestly, if Trump just said, "Yeah, I had the affair. What of it?" All of this would go away. His base knows he sleazy, his opposition knows he's sleazy. There is not one person on this planet that can be at all surprised by his sleazy behavior at this point. Funny that campaign finance and porn star hush money might be what takes this emmer effer down. Yes, he clearly learned nothing from Bill Clinton. It's not what they do, it's the cover-up that gets them. Yep, Clinton should have just said "Screw you, I'm not talking about my private personal life, it's none of your business" and it certainly wasn't Richard Nixon that broke into the Watergate Hotel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 20:08:48 GMT
I found this a helpful thread on the contracts, suits, counter-suits, "and/or" signatories, etc.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 22, 2018 21:12:52 GMT
Seems she may have the upper hand!
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Mar 22, 2018 21:29:02 GMT
I'm so confused by this whole brouhaha.
1) Why were they so concerned about paying off Stormy Daniels? I don't think it would've mattered one iota to his base. If he had just said, yep, we had consensual sex, I made a mistake, we've dealt with it and moved on, I don't think any of his supporters would've cared. (if they are willing to excuse affairs and sexual harassment, among a myriad of other bad behaviors, I'm sure they would've shrugged at extramarital sex with a porn star too).
2) But if there was some earth shattering reason why it was critical to hush up Stormy, why did she only settle for 130k? (although I don't think Trump has nearly as much money as he likes to pretend he has and certainly very little of it is liquid - and if it fell to his lawyer to mortgage his house or whatever he had to do to pay her, maybe that was all he could afford)
3) Trump has been bizarrely quiet about Stormy. Odd.
4) Trump denies an affair or hush money, yet joined a suit against her? I don't understand why there was a signed agreement if nothing happened? Trump has just ignored/denied claims of sexual harassment without payoffs, so if she was just lying, why pay her?
5) Everything I've heard about this agreement is confusing - is it legit, did he sign it, were aliases used, etc. But if it's anything like his shoddy NDAs for government employees he thought would stick, I guess it's no surprise this document is questionable too.
6) And I guess I really don't understand the sway of money or power because the thought of having relations with that man is so disgusting.
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