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Post by cindosha on Sept 11, 2014 19:19:28 GMT
Against dr's wishes? My coworker''s daughter is 8.5 mo pregnant and planning on traveling to Michigan from Georgia next week so she can be home with her mom for the birth.
She just moved from Kansas to Georgia at the end of August because her husband was transferred to the base in GA. . No problem with travel there but her husband was trying to get info from tricare for getting a doctor up here and tricare won't give them an complete answer about coverage for the birth.
Can they be denied coverage or partial coverage if they travel in the last couple of weeks of pregnancy?
Cindy
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Post by Basket1lady on Sept 11, 2014 20:03:26 GMT
My experience with Tricare is that they tell you nothing and hopefully you will be pleasantly surprised when the bill comes. And, you will get a different answer depending on who you talk to, your branch of service, and what health care system you are using. Really, her best bet is to read the coverage booklet and try her best to figure it out from there. Or get to a higher up at the health clinic for some solid answers.
There certainly are women who travel home for a birth. But the tricky thing here is that if the dr is saying "no travel" and she ignores that edict, Tricare may have legal ground. And most airlines won't allow a woman over 36 weeks pregnant to fly. And if she doesn't have access to military health care, that can affect the coverage as well. But it's my understanding that a birth is billed as complete coverage, minus a 3 day co payment to cap at $25. At least that's what it was when I had my two (both in civilian hospitals, but for high risk reasons.)
ETA: I'm just remembering this. When I had DD, I had her in a birthing center. DS was in the NICU when he was born and I was worried about this for DD, since I had the same health issues. We were told that if we chose to go to a hospital (vs. the birthing center) for DD's birth, we would be billed for the whole amount. I can't say if this is true, but since DS's bill was $25,000 for his first day, we chose to go to the birthing center and were prepared to fight for a transfer if needed.
Is it possible for mom to go to her? My MIL came to stay with us for a month before/after DS was born (that's a whole 'nother issue!) and then for a few days after DD was born. I'm a huge believer in the dad being there is possible.
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Post by stittsygirl on Sept 11, 2014 20:19:26 GMT
My best guess would be that if she doesn't get a straight answer and permission to do so, her labor and delivery would be covered under Tricare Standard instead of Tricare Prime, meaning she'd have much higher out-of-pocket costs depending on the hospital and practitioners involved.
So her husband would stay in GA and she would have the baby in Michigan?
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Sept 11, 2014 20:22:03 GMT
It's been since 2011, and we were on the version of TriCare offered to Reservists, but there was something in my paperwork regarding this. If I remember correctly, it stated that coverage would be limited or excluded if I delivered more than 100 miles from my address of record zip code on file with DEERS in the last 4-6 weeks of pregnancy without pre-approval for the trip from physician and TriCare.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 20:22:27 GMT
Tricare can deny coverage. Period. That is a reality of Tricare. I agree with Stittsygirl she most likely would end up covered under Tricare standard and have a much higher out of pocket expense. If she wants grandma to be around it would be much better/easier to deal with if grandma came to her.
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Post by cindosha on Sept 11, 2014 20:59:28 GMT
her mom is a teacher and would not be able to travel to her. her husband would be taking leave and coming to michigan with her. they are planning on coming next wednesday 9/17 and driving. when she saw the doctor in georgia last week, he said no problem to traveling on the 17th. at her appt yesterday, she was dilated to 2 and effaced (i don't know what percent) and i think that is why the dr said no travel.
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Post by stittsygirl on Sept 11, 2014 21:19:47 GMT
I understand wanting to have your mom there, but being that close to the due date and traveling by car that far to have your baby delivered by unknown practitioners, then not being sure how much, if any, will be covered by insurance, sounds unnecessarily risky. My husband was away in military training when our oldest was born. My MIL was the only one with me during labor and delivery. My mother and stepfather travelled to CA to get me and the baby a week later, we stayed with them for a couple of months, and I had my six-week check up by a doctor in a Utah (which Tricare covered). That was a good arrangement for us.
I hope it works out well for them and the baby.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 21:37:25 GMT
It seems unnecessarily risky...in many more ways than one. Having her mom there is simply a want...and sometimes as an adult, you have to weigh your wants vs. your needs and add necessary risk factors in.
If your co-worker doesn't mind risking having the baby on the road (and I can't imagine a car trip from GA to MI will be very pleasant for a woman that pregnant either) and has plenty of money to burn should Tri-Care not cover her expenses, sounds like a fantastic idea.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 21:45:56 GMT
So it would be inconvenient for her mom to take time off, so she would travel across the country by car against doctor's orders and without approval from her insurance? I think it would be much safer and smarter for her to stay put at this point. And it looks like it would be cheaper, too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 22:19:38 GMT
I honestly don't mean to sound like a bitch, but really? A grown assed woman, with her military DH HOME WITH HER wants to go to mommy's house to have a baby? What. The. Hell.
If it's gramma-to-be that wants her baby home to have a baby, then gramma needs to take whatever leave she has and go to DDs house. Besides, whatever it would cost gramma to miss work and travel could not possibly be as expensive as the cost of having a baby w/out insurance to cover it.
If the mom-to-be is the one wanting to travel, one would hope someone, either DH or Gramma, would vote to err on the side of caution and make her stay home, as the doctor instructed.
And lets not forget dad-to-be. What the hell is he thinking even considering this?
Who, may I ask, is thinking about what's best for the baby?
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Post by ten&rose on Sept 11, 2014 22:33:28 GMT
My understanding is that after 34 weeks if you are more than an hour away from your MTF and deliver Tricare can refuse to cover it. That is why we moved when I was 32 weeks rather than wait a bit more until school was out. That said I know of one friend who was granted an exception to policy to travel home at 37 weeks to attend her MILs funeral.
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Post by Rhondito on Sept 11, 2014 22:49:19 GMT
I think it's absurd to even consider traveling that far when your doctor has already said no travel. Someone should have grown up before having a baby.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 23:49:09 GMT
So it would be inconvenient for her mom to take time off, so she would travel across the country by car against doctor's orders and without approval from her insurance? I think it would be much safer and smarter for her to stay put at this point. And it looks like it would be cheaper, too. I'm just going to say because my own words would not be nearly as polite.
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Post by JustTricia on Sept 12, 2014 1:10:49 GMT
Your thread topic says against doctor's orders, but your post further down says the doctor said no problem to the traveling?
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Post by Jennifer C on Sept 12, 2014 1:18:49 GMT
I wanted to come home for the birth of my dd because dh was deployed. Tricare said no.
My Mom made the trip to me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 1:27:07 GMT
Dumb bass move. No airline is going to let her on. Mom needs to take leave and go to her.
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Post by elaine on Sept 12, 2014 1:29:48 GMT
Your thread topic says against doctor's orders, but your post further down says the doctor said no problem to the traveling? Last week doctor said "no problem," but she when was examined today, she is now starting to dilate and efface, so he changed his opinion to "no travel." Welcome to the life of a military wife. I think it is risky and not very smart to consider traveling this close to her due date to have a baby with docs who don't know her. A little bizarre too. I wouldn't want to risk Tricare refusing to cover the birth. Unless she can get authorization in writing from them, I wouldn't recommend it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 1:36:02 GMT
After thinking more about this, I just continue to shake my head. What woman would defy the doctor who knows her best, risking her own life/health and the life/health of her unborn child simply because she wants her mom to be there for the birth?
She's got her hubby there. It's not like she just moved and her DH is deployed.
She sounds incredibly immature, selfish...and so not ready to be a mother.
Whether Tricare pays or not, she needs to take the advice of her doctor...who has her own and her baby's best interest at heart. I'm glad at least one person does because it doesn't sound like the pregnant woman, her DH, or her Mother have the sense
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Post by scrapnnana on Sept 12, 2014 1:46:35 GMT
I can't speak for Tri-care, but when my dad died, I was 8+ months pregnant with my 4th baby. I had a history of early births. The change of altitude could trigger labor, so my HMO informed me that if I sent to my dad's funeral, and if the change of altitude triggered another early birth, they would NOT pay for it. I stayed home. The baby turned breech and ended up C-section, so I was grateful we didn't get stuck with the full hospital bill.
Is there some reason the girl's mom can't go to be with her instead of the daughter going to be with her mom for the birth?
If something goes wrong and the gal ends up having a C-section, is she prepared to pay for the whole thing?
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Post by pridemom on Sept 12, 2014 1:58:52 GMT
I honestly don't mean to sound like a bitch, but really? A grown assed woman, with her military DH HOME WITH HER wants to go to mommy's house to have a baby? What. The. Hell. If it's gramma-to-be that wants her baby home to have a baby, then gramma needs to take whatever leave she has and go to DDs house. Besides, whatever it would cost gramma to miss work and travel could not possibly be as expensive as the cost of having a baby w/out insurance to cover it. If the mom-to-be is the one wanting to travel, one would hope someone, either DH or Gramma, would vote to err on the side of caution and make her stay home, as the doctor instructed. And lets not forget dad-to-be. What the hell is he thinking even considering this? Who, may I ask, is thinking about what's best for the baby? I agree. Grandma can take FMLA to be with her daughter to care for her.
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Post by SabrinaM on Sept 12, 2014 2:03:44 GMT
No way would I go to another state to give birth after having my prenatal care done by another MD. I'd be surprised if she could find an OB to take her on as a patient at this point in her pregnancy.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Sept 12, 2014 2:18:24 GMT
I cannot imagine already dilating and then getting in a car to go bumpety bump of that baby's head on the dilating cervix. And the bladder! For hundreds of miles. With strangers to deliver if it comes along the way. She should stay home and grandma can take some sick or personal days shouldering the weekend after she gives birth.
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Post by pretzels on Sept 12, 2014 11:07:54 GMT
I had BCBS with both of mine and there was a travel restriction -- something like if I traveled more than 100 miles from 35 weeks on (or something like that; it's been almost 13 years) -- the birth wouldn't be covered, no matter if my OB said it was OK for me to travel or not. This isn't a Tricare-specific thing.
Also, last year, my son's Spanish teacher took a week or two off to be with her daughter who just had a baby. If her mother works in a public school, odds are she has days she can take. Teachers do have days to take off during the year; it's just that the majority of them don't take them in a bunch. My son was in Spanish 2, so the students already had basic knowledge. I think they spent the majority of the time the teacher was gone writing a paper.
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Post by Country Ham on Sept 12, 2014 11:30:11 GMT
I am confused by the OP. Was she actually put on bed rest or something? Or is it more about the last line implying you can't travel the last couple weeks of a pregnancy? My OB never restricted travel at any point in the pregnancies. His exact words were, "I am not the only OB around. If are sitting a long time just make sure you get up and move around every 1 to 2 hours."
ETA: I had no travel restrictions with my insurances either. Just have to make sure the hospital was in network to avoid higher out of pocket.
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Post by rosered on Sept 12, 2014 12:38:15 GMT
I am a TRICARE beneficiary counselor. Don't know what base in GA she is assigned to, but is probably in Prime. When you use Prime, you have to stay in the network. If you want to see an outside provider, you need permission or a referral. If you don't have a referral, you will be charged Point of Service fees. That is a $300 deductible and 50% of all expenses. Otherwise you can disenroll in Prime and use Standard. She could also transfer her enrollment in Prime to Michigan, if her Mom is in a Prime area. The post should have a beneficiary counselor in their clinic/hospital to advise them.
It would be much smarter for Mom to go to her in Georgia. If she is teaching and can't even take leave to go visit, she isn't going to be much help for her daughter in MI either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 12:55:34 GMT
Whether or not the birth would be covered by Tricare would be at the bottom of my list of reasons not to do what she's planning.
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Post by tommygirl on Sept 12, 2014 13:11:41 GMT
What rosered said sounds correct. I work in medical billing. I don't know all the ins and outs of Tricare but I do know that Georgia and Michigan are in 2 different Tricare areas. Tricare will not pay for a patient we see in Tricare North if they are signed up in Tricare South even though we are Tricare providers. If I were her I would stay put and have her baby with the medical professionals who know her case. My first 2 babies were both born on military bases. My first baby was born in San Diego while my mom was in Florida. We made it! Best wishes to this new military mom!!
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Post by compwalla on Sept 12, 2014 13:31:29 GMT
These kinds of military wives cause me to sprain my eyes from rolling them so hard. You're safe, your spouse is home, have your baby where you are. Suck it up, buttercup, and quit being a nutsack.
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Post by utmr on Sept 12, 2014 14:03:31 GMT
How old is this child? She sounds like an immature teenager. She is fixing to have a baby so time to grow up. Suck it up and deal is my opinion.
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Post by khaleesi on Sept 12, 2014 14:50:24 GMT
<snipped> It would be much smarter for Mom to go to her in Georgia. If she is teaching and can't even take leave to go visit, she isn't going to be much help for her daughter in MI either. This was my first thought reading this and I'm glad I was not alone. She needs to stay put and if it is that important to her and her mother then her mother will make arrangements to get there. Plus, has she driven on Michigan roads lately? I cannot image how unpleasant it would be for her and she'd likely need to make a list of all possible places to stop where a hospital is near in case she went into labor before getting to her mom's. Stay put is my vote.
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