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Post by edie3 on Sept 13, 2014 4:06:49 GMT
A warrant has been issued for the arrest of Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson, who has been indicted on a charge of reckless or negligent injury to a child in North Montgomery County, Texas.
Sources told the Star Tribune of Minneapolis that the boy lives with his mother in Minnesota and was on a visit to Texas with Peterson several months ago when he was injured while Peterson disciplined him with a switch.
The Vikings deactivated Peterson for Sunday’s home game against New England.
Nick Wright, a reporter for radio station 610AM in Houston, said he read police reports and heard audio of Peterson’s phone calls to police.
The radio station reported, according to law-enforcement sources, that Peterson beat his 4-year-old son with a tree branch as a form of punishment for pushing his brother off a motorcycle video game. The 4-year-old suffered injuries to his legs, buttocks, back and scrotum.
The radio station reported that according to police reports, the child told authorities that “Daddy Peterson hit me on my face” and expressed concern that Peterson would punch him in the face if the child reported the incident to authorities. According to the police reports, the boy also said Peterson put leaves in his mouth when he was being hit with “the switch,” typically a tree branch with twigs or leaves removed, while the boy’s pants were down. He also reportedly told his mother that Peterson “likes belts and switches” and “has a whooping room.”
The Vikings knew of the incident for several weeks, but thought Peterson had been cleared of all criminal charges, an NFL source told the Los Angeles Times.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 4:25:15 GMT
The whole story is just horrible, and the pictures are unbelievable. Remember they were taken after the child was back home in Minnesota and the injuries occurred in Texas. They haven't said quite how much time elapsed, but it sure wasn't just a couple hours. The doctor reported some wounds were still bleeding upon exam.
What absolutely blows my mind about all of this is that the first grand jury declined to indict Peterson. I don't know how anyone could look at the pictures of that poor boy and not know a crime had been committed.
Peterson has apparently been cooperating completely with the police and has said he was just discipling his child the way he was disciplined growing up. And this, my friends, is how multigenerational child abuse and domestic abuse happens. People grow up in environments where violence is normal and they don't recognize it as abnormal when they are adults so they either perpetuate it or tolerate it. So very sad.
(P.S. Don't take that as any kind of sympathy or excuse for Peterson's behavior. Just an observation on this insidious problem.)
ETA: SportsCenter is reporting that the pictures were taking 5-7 days after the beating. Jesus.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 13, 2014 4:34:24 GMT
Disgusting. The NFL had better not let one slide so easily too.
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Post by elaine on Sept 13, 2014 5:08:38 GMT
I am sick at heart for that poor child. For his pain and lasting emotional scars. Adrian's lawyer is actually arguing that he beat his child with a switch "out of love." PUKE.
I am disgusted because I can also guess at the leniency the NFL will show Peterson because he is arguably one of the top 10 players in the whole league.
The culture of the NFL needs to change. It really is NOT okay to beat women and children.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 5:21:59 GMT
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Post by pivibird on Sept 13, 2014 5:46:07 GMT
Appalling. The NFL fosters and condones a culture of violence and it needs to stop. This type of behavior coming from a man whose son was killed by a beating? Really? What will it take for him to learn?
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Post by rebelyelle on Sept 13, 2014 6:29:56 GMT
I read an article on this earlier today and the comments sickened me almost as much as his actions - comments like "the blind rage of a father disappointed in his child is hard for you to comprehend". What the ever-loving f*ck? Are you kidding me? It's appalling. I had NO idea that this type of "discipline" was still tolerated in certain circles. I was apparently wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 6:37:06 GMT
Yes, the comments are disgusting. Apparently, Peterson is far from alone in considering this discipline, not abuse.
Utterly mind-boggling.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Sept 13, 2014 6:40:53 GMT
Someone should take a switch to him. Bastard. To do this to any child is bad enough, but to a four year old?
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Post by PaperAngel on Sept 13, 2014 7:09:47 GMT
I heard on national talk radio that, even if Peterson is convicted of the charges, the maximum sentence does not include jail time! IIRC it's two years probation & a fine. It's sad that laws in this country fail to adequately protect our innocent children. Regardless whether criminal charges were ever filed, IMHO anyone who is capable of abusing his own child in such a manner has definitely violated the NFL conduct clause & should have already been indefinitely suspended from the team & league. Since that hasn't happened, there is no question that Roger Goddell should also be fired now! In addition to Peterson's indictment today, 28 other NFL players have been arrested on various charges since the Super Bowl. IMHO what's happening in the NFL is a reflection of the overwhelming lack of responsibility/accountability, sense of entitlement, celebrity-worship, etc. tolerated in our current society. |
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Post by edie3 on Sept 13, 2014 11:39:31 GMT
Maybe these cases will be the catalyst for change in the NFL. So many sport figures must think they are above the law. Or else, they have always had someone get them out of their "messes".
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Post by grinningcat on Sept 13, 2014 11:54:54 GMT
I knew my instinct to hate the NFL was bang on. So glad I've never invested any time into this shit industry.
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Post by Sarah*H on Sept 13, 2014 11:56:36 GMT
The thing is, in my experience cases like this aren't usually referred to law enforcement. It's an unusual situation because of the different jurisdictions and that's probably why it went to the police rather than just the child welfare agencies. I have always been shocked that child welfare agencies don't refer all founded cases of physical abuse for criminal charges but at least around here, it rarely happens.
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Post by Just T on Sept 13, 2014 12:20:57 GMT
Disgusting and shocking. Even someone who was disciplined that way himself should KNOW that right now today, that is NOT considered a normal form of discipline. This guy doesn't live under a rock in the hills somewhere. Child abuse is openly talked about nowadays, unlike years ago when it was hush hushed.
My husband was disciplined in this way as a child along with his siblings. They would be sent out to the tree to cut off their own switch once they were old enough. But in no way shape or form has my husband ever thought of this as "normal" discipline. We have four children who he never so much as swatted on the bottom. My mother used to hit my brother with a belt...as many parents did. But I in no way think that is normal discipline.
In my opinion, he and his scumbag lawyer saying he thought it was "normal" is a freaking copout. No one who watches tv or is out in the world can think that beating a four year old until his scrotum is bloody is anywhere close to normal. He knows it's wrong and did it anyway.
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Post by gypsymama on Sept 13, 2014 13:21:52 GMT
same as michael vick trying to defend his dog fighting by saying that's how it was done in his circles (not exact words but don't really want to google it right now!) my dh and i were both whipped with switches growing up but not where there were bruises or cuts as a result... but regardless we never used a switch on any of our kids!
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Post by bsn22 on Sept 13, 2014 13:27:24 GMT
His other son (from a different woman) was allegedly beaten to death by the mother's boyfriend. He talked about how it was a wake-up call to get his life in order.
Who would say that hitting your child with a "switch" and making those marks is normal? A generation ago spanking wasn't abuse but I am not sure that many people spank their kids anymore.
It will be very interesting to see how the courts and NFL handle this case.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 13:45:21 GMT
Ugh sick. But we have such a culture where petiole think hitting kids is the only way to not "ruin" them. I'm sure the NFL will drag their feet as usual, ban him for a year or two and then let him back in. I will never support them and haven't in years.
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Post by kimpossible on Sept 13, 2014 14:03:57 GMT
His other son (from a different woman) was allegedly beaten to death by the mother's boyfriend. He talked about how it was a wake-up call to get his life in order. Who would say that hitting your child with a "switch" and making those marks is normal? A generation ago spanking wasn't abuse but I am not sure that many people spank their kids anymore. It will be very interesting to see how the courts and NFL handle this case. I thought that was the same person! I remember feeling so bad for him when that news came out. Now this? I don't think he got a wake up call at all. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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Post by BeckyTech on Sept 13, 2014 14:51:14 GMT
I knew my instinct to hate the NFL was bang on. So glad I've never invested any time into this shit industry. Yes, that's right, you should always judge an entire group of people based on the actions of a few.  |
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Post by maureen on Sept 13, 2014 15:38:09 GMT
I knew my instinct to hate the NFL was bang on. So glad I've never invested any time into this shit industry. Yeah, because the NFL never does anything good or redeeming like this: Devon Still |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 15:48:39 GMT
I knew my instinct to hate the NFL was bang on. So glad I've never invested any time into this shit industry. Yeah, because the NFL never does anything good or redeeming like this: Devon StillI don't care what the NFL does good. They are ridiculous and I will never support them again. My support ended with the Vick debacle. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Sept 13, 2014 15:59:31 GMT
"His other son (from a different woman) was allegedly beaten to death by the mother's boyfriend. He talked about how it was a wake-up call to get his life in order"
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I live in MN, and I'm sorry, but I think AP is a piece of crap. I've always thought there was just something a bit off with him. He has more then 2 sons. He has had more then 3 children..he won't say exactly HOW many children he has (who HAS to do that? or want to?!). ALL by different women. I'm thinking there is going to be A LOT more coming out.
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Post by myboysnme on Sept 13, 2014 16:16:10 GMT
I have come to realize that anyone who does something like this and says, "I did not mean to hurt him" is lying. There is no way a person with any kind of mental thought processes can do something like this and not mean to hurt the other person. No one takes a stick, cord, belt, shoe or even a hand to slap, whip, beat or punch another person without an expectation that it will hurt.
If you do not want it to hurt, don't do it in the first place.
I made that mistake once as a social worker testifying in court. I said that I did not think the father meant for the child to be hurt as he was, and the father was let off. It has haunted me ever since.
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Post by Just T on Sept 13, 2014 16:27:55 GMT
How in the he!! could he have been hitting that child, who was probably screaming and crying, making him bloody, and then say, "I didn't mean to hurt him."
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Post by J u l e e on Sept 13, 2014 16:54:19 GMT
I cannot put into words how this issue threatens to unhinge the pieces of my sanity that I try so hard to hold together. Hitting children in any form, for any reason, will never ever be understandable to me. My post could be followed with a thousand personal accounts of how others were hit as children and "turned out okay" or justifications for "giving a swat on the behind" to their own children for whatthehellever and I will never be convinced that hitting children (and I extend that to animals and adults as well) is acceptable. I feel sick about this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 17:02:30 GMT
I don't think the NFL is directly to blame though. I think they don't do enough discipline/counseling when there is an issue and try to cover up rather than help solve to save the brand, but I don't think the issue stems directly from them/playing football. I think specific personality types are able to deal with the violence of the game of football and have the ability to perform that well. And those personalities can tend to be people who can be violent in other parts of their lives (with partners, children, spouses, etc). Plus I think that those that make it to the NFL are those that then make it into the media.
My step-FIL who played in the NFL in the late 60s and early 70s doesn't even watch it anymore because the game/personalities have changed so much. And I think the types of personalities that play football has also changed. They are definitely not role models I would want for my children any more. (And I too was disgusted with the whole Ben Roethelesburger sp? incident)
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Post by cindyupnorth on Sept 13, 2014 17:07:38 GMT
"How in the he!! could he have been hitting that child, who was probably screaming and crying, making him bloody, and then say, "I didn't mean to hurt him."
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That is part of his defense. That the child did NOT cry out, or cry, or make a sound. They acutally have copies of texts he sent to the Mom of the child from AP stating this, and that the kid is tough, and the mom stating the child wouldn't have cried out because he is scared of AP.
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Post by denda on Sept 13, 2014 17:52:12 GMT
I love NFL football. I am glad they are finally doing something about the thugs in the league. I hope college football does everything they can to clean up their teams also. I am NOT a Texas Longhorn fan, but I respect their new coach for kicking players off the team that broke team rules! I wish more coaches would do that.
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Post by vicloo on Sept 13, 2014 18:18:11 GMT
From the sickening reports of this abuse I have been reading, the four year old son of AP called his dad Daddy Peterson. That struck me as very strange.
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Post by suzastampin on Sept 13, 2014 20:31:16 GMT
Sadly, I don't think you can blame this on the NFL or any other sports franchise. Women and children are beaten every day in the US. We are only hearing about it because it's the NFL at the moment where the focus is. Where did these people learn that it's ok to beat women and children? It's because it's what they've either grown up seeing, or have seen others doing it and think this is the way they can get what they want. How many times do we hear somebody has hurt an infant and they said they were trying to make it stop crying. Like spanking the child is going to make them quiet? No, they are going to cry harder. It's time that we use these instances to bring into the light some thing that has gone on far too long in the shadows. Let's hope that these horrible instances are used as a tool both in sports and in the every day person to teach them that it's not ok to beat women and children.
Compare the instance in the elevator where Beyoncé's sister was hitting on Jay-Z. You didn't see him raise his hand to hit her like Ray a Rice did to Janay. But Chris Brown hit Rhianna.
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