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Post by pas2 on Apr 29, 2018 11:25:28 GMT
I’m drooling over their new release, so pretty. Jennifer Mcguire demo shows so many ways to use these sets and they can be mixed and matched too! Birch Press
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Loydene
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Post by Loydene on Apr 29, 2018 15:04:12 GMT
There were only 3 that I really liked -- but not so much that I'd pay that price for the set! The Silhouette Design store came out with similar layers -- I wish that some of the Silhouette designers would do the layered flowers -- like that Peony set (which is one that I really liked!) .
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Apr 29, 2018 15:21:32 GMT
They are great but ridiculously expensive.
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Post by gale w on Apr 29, 2018 17:04:36 GMT
Lori something (Whitlock maybe?) did a set of nested shape svg files a while back. I bought the whole set but haven't used it yet. I wonder if she's done any more.
I bought a set from Honey Bee during a big sale and they are really cool. They only have a hexagon set (like a honeycomb).
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Post by anniefb on Apr 29, 2018 17:37:52 GMT
Those layered dies are beautiful but so expensive. I did see that Lori Whitlock now has some stacked card bases available for sale like the one below so I hope a few more designers come out with similar ideas.
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Post by streetscrapper on Apr 29, 2018 19:18:54 GMT
They are great but ridiculously expensive. I like them, but not enough to pay the price for a set of 3 or 4 dies! CRAZY!
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Apr 29, 2018 22:46:05 GMT
They are great but ridiculously expensive. I like them, but not enough to pay the price for a set of 3 or 4 dies! CRAZY! It comes off as money hungry. I get the whole idea of wanting to support USA made products, but to make a mandala on an iPad is ridiculously easy...there is not so much design work going into them that a full set approaching $100 is reasonable. It's also why I feel no guilt in buying the knockoffs. The higher prices go, the less product I buy. If companies sold these things for a reasonable profit, sure I'd buy, but instead they are price gouging customers who have to have everything they see some scrap celebrity using. Especially considering you can achieve the same look with digital files of the same designs for so much less money. When you think that 3 (maybe 4) full sets of the background dies costs as much as a die cutting machine and the equivalent cut files would run either 99 cents each or 99 cents for a trio, it boggles the mind why ANYONE would pay these outrageous prices.
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taradid
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Post by taradid on Apr 29, 2018 23:44:30 GMT
Scott from Card Cutups shows how he made a layered die cut look using only 3 hexagon dies in this video around the 23 minute mark. Here is the link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6kH9XyiaM8I was really impressed at the results he achieved - it reminds me of those expensive die sets like these. Sure, it will take a little more time to do it Scott's way, but think of the savings!
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Post by justjac on Apr 29, 2018 23:59:55 GMT
I bought the Glitz snowflake, Fiori, and Dazzle sets during the Boxing Week sale. I love the layered look they give.
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Post by pas2 on Apr 30, 2018 9:14:36 GMT
Those layered dies are beautiful but so expensive. I did see that Lori Whitlock now has some stacked card bases available for sale like the one below so I hope a few more designers come out with similar ideas. I need to check these out.
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Post by pas2 on Apr 30, 2018 9:22:24 GMT
I shouldn’t be surprised but 3 of these sets have just popped up on AX. They are around $8.50 for a set of 3 dies.
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Post by streetscrapper on Apr 30, 2018 11:10:47 GMT
I saw this too. I also recently saw a post on FB from a "celebrity" card maker sharing a message from a small store about how AX is going to put them out of business and asking people to stop buying knock offs. While I completely understand and agree that ripping off someones designs is wrong, these birch press dies are a prime example of why people buy the knock offs. Close to $100 for three dies. Seriously? I can think of so many other things I would rather spend the $$ on, and like scrapaddict702 said, I also feel no guilt when I can get the same set for $8.50.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 30, 2018 12:32:23 GMT
these birch press dies are a prime example of why people buy the knock offs. Close to $100 for three dies. Seriously? One set represents my full srap budget for several months: paper, cardstock, adhesive, photos, etc. I can't afford these, sorry. They're very pretty but a total luxury item in terms of pricing. I fail to see how one is worth $25. I recently bought two dies I knew I could purchase from AX for about 1.5/2€ a piece but got them from the official source at normal retail price (5€ and 7€). I could have saved some money and got them cheaper, etc. but it didn't matter to me because the OG/official dies were very reasonably priced! However, when you can find a $75 set for under $8 on AX (shipping + tracking included), there's a genuine question mark about the markup. Even when factoring in design cost, that's still way too much money. How ironic for a craft that used to be about literal scraps!
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Post by gale w on Apr 30, 2018 19:07:55 GMT
There's zero chance I could afford the Birch Press ones but I can't bring myself to buy anything from AliExpress. As a company they have stolen so many designs that I don't want to give them a penny. I would rather use the Lori Whitlock layered shapes or just do without. When I bought the Honey Bee set it was 4 dies (3 cut, one makes stitchy lines) for around $45.
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Post by sjwoody1167 on Apr 30, 2018 19:59:15 GMT
There's zero chance I could afford the Birch Press ones but I can't bring myself to buy anything from AliExpress. As a company they have stolen so many designs that I don't want to give them a penny. I would rather use the Lori Whitlock layered shapes or just do without. This.
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Apr 30, 2018 21:20:46 GMT
There's zero chance I could afford the Birch Press ones but I can't bring myself to buy anything from AliExpress. As a company they have stolen so many designs that I don't want to give them a penny. I would rather use the Lori Whitlock layered shapes or just do without. When I bought the Honey Bee set it was 4 dies (3 cut, one makes stitchy lines) for around $45. Yep. If they changed the designs a bit I might not have a problem with it but to outright copy the images is just all kinds of wrong.
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Post by GiantsFan on Apr 30, 2018 22:10:53 GMT
There's zero chance I could afford the Birch Press ones but I can't bring myself to buy anything from AliExpress. As a company they have stolen so many designs that I don't want to give them a penny. I would rather use the Lori Whitlock layered shapes or just do without. When I bought the Honey Bee set it was 4 dies (3 cut, one makes stitchy lines) for around $45. This is my feeling as well. I really like the look, but I'm not going to support knockoffs.
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msliz
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Post by msliz on Apr 30, 2018 22:22:23 GMT
I went and looked at the AEx dies, and they're not exact duplicates. They're smaller and less intricate, nowhere as nice. I think in this case, if I had the machine, I'd go with the suggestion of creating a cut file on my own.
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Post by GiantsFan on Apr 30, 2018 23:20:54 GMT
Those layered dies are beautiful but so expensive. I did see that Lori Whitlock now has some stacked card bases available for sale like the one below so I hope a few more designers come out with similar ideas. Thanks. I just bought three. On sale for $0.50 each!
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 30, 2018 23:33:40 GMT
Just a quick note: AX is a platform, not an actual manufacturer. Vendors flock to the platform to sell their stock, like a normal street market if you will. AX doesn't copy the designs or organise the sale and stock fluctuations. They offer a place for vendors (mostly in China) to sell their stuff for a percentage of the sales (and they've expanded to offering shipping options and such).
The people copying are actual manufacturers in China. That's why I was so surprised they managed to buy the latest BP die sets, scan them, copy them, manufacture them, sell some stock to several AX-based vendors and get them on the platform so quickly!
They either have a system in place with someone/several people keeping an eye on hot SB items in the US buying these as soon as they're released and scanning them over in the US, sending the files via the Internet or there's a glitch in the manufacturing origin and they're actually coming from China (which I doubt but let's look at all the possibilities).
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Post by wendifful on Apr 30, 2018 23:37:08 GMT
I also love the layered Birch Press dies but I don't think I'd ever pony up for a set, based on how expensive they are. I agree that buying the knockoffs (of these and other sets) on Ali Express is not something I personally can feel comfortable with, even though it is tempting. For what it's worth, I can tell the difference between American manufactured steel dies and those made in China (as an example, the American Crafts and Little B dies were made in China I believe). It's not that the China made ones are unusable but they're not as sturdy as the American ones. Most stamp and die companies make 100% of their stamps and dies in the US, so they're definitely not manufacturing leftovers. It is expensive to buy US dies but I consider it an investment in the companies and the future of this hobby.
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