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Post by Really Red on Jul 2, 2018 19:46:31 GMT
Please leave your little kids home when you take your college kids to orientation.
I have been at orientation all day and this one set of parents has ~10mo old twins. Parents haven't done one single thing* to shut them up the entire day. Two parents who have left the kids in the stroller the entire day. On the bus, at lunch, everywhere. They do not belong here! Every session has been interrupted by their fussing, babbling, crying. I hate that these parents either couldn't come separately or find someone to take care of the kids. Even tag teaming or taking them out if the room when they're noisy would be ok. But the focus should be their college kid, not these two babies. Instead we all suffer. UGH.
*the dad keeps saying "shush"
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Post by librarylady on Jul 2, 2018 20:01:51 GMT
I agree with you.
Sometimes things have a background story that changes an opinion. Last spring I attended my 50 year college graduation reunion. One lady had her 3-6 month old grandbaby there. Of course the little thing was occasionally fussy etc. The first night, I thought "OK she wants to show off her grandbaby." After the baby was at every dinner/memorial service, etc I was growing a little annoyed. "Why didn't she show the baby to us and then take it somewhere?" At our last evening dinner, (a big production)--Someone explained that the reason she had the baby was child protective had taken the child and on Friday afternoon either she took the baby or it was going into foster care. At that late date/hour she could not make other arrangements and she had paid her money for the reunion and really wanted to see her college friends. When she went home she was facing setting up a baby world in her life.
After I learned that, I was OK that she brought the baby.
Your family might have some wild story as the reason they had the twins there. I do agree that it should have been "tag teamed" so that one parent stayed with babies and the other went to the meetings.
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Post by lemondrop on Jul 2, 2018 20:05:56 GMT
Validating your vent!
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Post by mom on Jul 2, 2018 20:08:19 GMT
YES! When DS1 and I went to 'Transfer Day' at Tech there was a whole 7 member family there. Mom, Dad, Transfer student, a teenage girl about 13 and two kids under the age of 3 (and the baby was about 4 months old) or so. During the introduction section, they told us they actually lived about 25 min away. Why wouldn't you leave all the extra Kida at home instead of dragging them to a large University to go to meetings, tours, etc?
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Post by questioning on Jul 2, 2018 20:13:56 GMT
Validate you. If there's a family situation making it imperative for both parents to be there then the least they could do is alternate with the infants or toddlers in another room.
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Post by melanell on Jul 2, 2018 20:20:12 GMT
I agree with librarylady. There may be a reason why both parents are there as well as the babies, BUT, I too think the parents should be trying to do more to keep them happy & quiet than just "shush"ing them all day. Even if it was as simple as them just both wanting to be there but mom still nursing, so the kids came along, it probably could still work with little bother to others if they handled things differently. Sorry they kept interrupting things for you, OP. No matter what the reason, it still stinks to be trying to learn and gather information and keep missing things due to small children being there.
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Post by Belle on Jul 2, 2018 20:20:48 GMT
Just my dad and I went to my college orientation. I can't imagine bringing along any siblings let alone twin babies.
Of course, their could definitely be special circumstances. However, when their are 2 parents present it would seem like the best option would be for 1 parent to attend the college stuff with the older child and 1 parent stay home (or at the hotel?) with the babies.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jul 2, 2018 20:22:10 GMT
OMG if that isn't the rudest thing ever... seriously???
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Post by mikklynn on Jul 2, 2018 20:23:13 GMT
I validate you. I hate when parents are clueless to bringing young children to events where they do not belong.
I really feel for their student! He/she certainly was not getting the parents full attention at what should have been their day.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jul 2, 2018 20:24:22 GMT
OMG if that isn't the rudest thing ever... seriously??? I agree too if there is an emergency.. I get that, but both parents are at the college thing. One needs to be with the babies and one be with the college student.
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Post by Linda on Jul 2, 2018 20:26:02 GMT
and this is why I didn't go to orientation with DD18 - if I went, then DD11 would have had to go and she would have been bored. So DH went with DD18 and I stayed home with DD11. Would I have preferred to have gone? yes. Would DD18 have preferred I had gone? yes. But it would have been disruptive to others to bring an extra kid so I stayed home. (if I drove, then DH would have stayed home but it was a 2-day orientation 3+ hrs away)
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Post by questioning on Jul 2, 2018 20:27:54 GMT
Just my dad and I went to my college orientation. I can't imagine bringing along any siblings let alone twin babies. Of course, their could definitely be special circumstances. However, when their are 2 parents present it would seem like the best option would be for 1 parent to attend the college stuff with the older child and 1 parent stay home (or at the hotel?) with the babies. One thousand years ago when I started college I went alone, as did almost everyone I knew. Same for DH. Our oldest wanted to go alone, and did. You would have thought we had allowed him to be taken by wolves, according to our friends reactions. At first I was sad, like I'd been left out, but then I realized we'd raised a capable soon-to-be-adult, and that's what the last three years have proved.
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Post by vspindler on Jul 2, 2018 20:32:49 GMT
My sister works for an university but had to go to a meeting while on maternity leave. She ended up taking my nephew with her and the Dean of her department ended up stealing the baby and doing part of her presentation while holding him.
But I guess that is one advantage of working in the School of Human Ecology - they tend to be kid friendly.
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Post by peaname on Jul 2, 2018 20:33:19 GMT
How embarrassing for the college student. Why do parents need to go at all?
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Post by questioning on Jul 2, 2018 20:36:47 GMT
How embarrassing for the college student. Why do parents need to go at all? People will say it's due to helicopter parents, but I tend to think it's also a CYA action on part of the universities. If they've offered parents an opportunity to review policies and payments, or degree requirements, they can't be accused of withholding or being unclear about information.
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Post by deekaye on Jul 2, 2018 20:43:43 GMT
How embarrassing for the college student. Why do parents need to go at all? Sidetracking a little bit, but both of our daughters went to the same University, four years apart. Both orientations were set up with a parent track and a student track. A few times we came together but most of our orientation classes were separate. I just thought it was a normal thing to attend orientation with your soon-to-be college freshman? And to keep this on track: I validate you! Use a sitter, only one parent attends or, at the least, one parent takes the child(ren) out to stroll the campus while the other parent stays with the college kid.
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Post by craftedbys on Jul 2, 2018 21:21:20 GMT
I will validate you, other siblings have no business there, and in my opinion, unless there is a specific program for parents or if there are extenuating circumstances, parents really dont need to go. Yes, as a parent you feel a bit left out, but unless you have a Doogie Howser on your hands you child is an adult. Let them act like one.
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Post by ellen on Jul 2, 2018 21:31:43 GMT
How embarrassing for the college student. Why do parents need to go at all? Sidetracking a little bit, but both of our daughters went to the same University, four years apart. Both orientations were set up with a parent track and a student track. A few times we came together but most of our orientation classes were separate. I just thought it was a normal thing to attend orientation with your soon-to-be college freshman? And to keep this on track: I validate you! Use a sitter, only one parent attends or, at the least, one parent takes the child(ren) out to stroll the campus while the other parent stays with the college kid. Same at my daughter's school. We had lunch and an initial meeting all together and then I went to a parent presentation and she went to one for new students and registered for her first semester. The whole thing was about 4 hours long. Her school is a 3.5 hour drive away and we stayed in a hotel the night before, so I wasn't going to send her alone. My younger daughter (12 at the time) went with us, but my sister had met us there and they went shopping during the orientation. A kid would have been bored to death listening to all of it. I have zero problem with babies being someplace, but it they are a disruption to others they should be taken out. It seems crazy to me that one of the parents didn't push the stroller around campus when they started fussing. SaveSaveSaveSave
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Post by destined2bmom on Jul 2, 2018 21:33:32 GMT
I also validate you. They also do it at high school when it specifically states no children. And usually the kids are different ages and talking away or jiggling. It’s so disruptive, disrespectful and rude. I just don’t understand why they can’t figure things out.
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Post by mom on Jul 2, 2018 21:33:50 GMT
How embarrassing for the college student. Why do parents need to go at all? I went to Transfer Orientation at Texas Tech with my oldest. They had meetings for parents and meetings for the students. SaveSave
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Post by RosieKat on Jul 2, 2018 21:52:05 GMT
Just my dad and I went to my college orientation. I can't imagine bringing along any siblings let alone twin babies. Of course, their could definitely be special circumstances. However, when their are 2 parents present it would seem like the best option would be for 1 parent to attend the college stuff with the older child and 1 parent stay home (or at the hotel?) with the babies. One thousand years ago when I started college I went alone, as did almost everyone I knew. Same for DH. Our oldest wanted to go alone, and did. You would have thought we had allowed him to be taken by wolves, according to our friends reactions. At first I was sad, like I'd been left out, but then I realized we'd raised a capable soon-to-be-adult, and that's what the last three years have proved. That was my thought as well. When I went to college, they had your parents stick around until about noon or so (helping move you in, that kind of stuff) and then they basically made the parents leave. Parents weren't even allowed to stay there! I'm not made for helicopter world...it wouldn't have even crossed my mind that parents should be there unless I was told that specifically I was required for certain parts of it or something.
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Post by Country Ham on Jul 2, 2018 21:55:18 GMT
Is this a new thing that parents attend orientation? Many moons ago my parents drove me to university. They hugged me goodbye. Day #1 was registration (no online registrations students lined up at tables), day #2 was orientation, then classes started that Monday. No one went home that weekend because that was orientation for each residence and the start of freshmen orientation on campus. I don't know one freshman who had a parent attend any information session.
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Post by Lori McMud on Jul 2, 2018 21:55:26 GMT
I had a similar experience last Thursday when I went to orientation with DS. I could not believe how many entire families were there, from infants to grandparents. The grandparents that I saw were not there as parents, but just tagging along. Seriously, leave the dog and pony show at home.
I only went because I had some financial aid things to clear up, otherwise I would have let DS go on his own.
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Post by threegirls on Jul 2, 2018 22:02:32 GMT
I'll validate you too. I would be annoyed.
I have to admit, I never knew there were college orientations for parents. I learn so much from this board! My oldest will be a junior in high school so we haven't done the college thing yet. When I went to college in the '80s there was not an orientation for parents (or if there was one my parents didn't go).
What is there to talk about all day?
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jul 2, 2018 22:12:45 GMT
That is so rude and inconsiderate.
Why didn't whomever was conducting the orientation, ask one of them to remove the disruptive babies/children?
I would have stepped out and looked for someone to complain to, or asked to be moved to another orientation group.
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Post by maryannscraps on Jul 2, 2018 22:14:00 GMT
I went with my daughter to Orientation. We lived 1,000 miles away and I had to help her move in. I enjoyed it, mostly because they did fun stuff for the parents -- tours of Atlanta and brunch and stuff like that. I didn't go to any academic orientation stuff. I enjoyed my trip, and did my own thing once DD was settled in her room.
When I went to college, my parents dropped me at the curb. They literally did not even go inside with me. I bought some sheets and a comforter from the campus store, and was good to go. I'm pretty sure they never visited my dorm over the four years -- it was out of state, but they came through town a few times a year.
LOL, I forgot to comment on the topic. That would have annoyed me a lot. One parent should have taken the crying babies outside to not disturb everyone.
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Post by mustlovecats on Jul 2, 2018 22:18:16 GMT
I think I would be too distracted by my Fallopian tubes tying themselves in knots over the idea of myself personally having a college student and a baby to notice anything else.
Actually I validate you. Babies really don’t belong there.
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Post by deekaye on Jul 2, 2018 22:20:05 GMT
Is this a new thing that parents attend orientation? Many moons ago my parents drove me to university. They hugged me goodbye. Day #1 was registration (no online registrations students lined up at tables), day #2 was orientation, then classes started that Monday. No one went home that weekend because that was orientation for each residence and the start of freshmen orientation on campus. I don't know one freshman who had a parent attend any information session. Hmm, I can only tell you about one University in the last eight years (I graduated college, but started at a CC, so didn't have the freshman orientation experience): Orientation was held in the summer - in fact it was last week - and then school, of course, started in the Fall. We attended orientation with our daughters, and then in the Fall came back to move them in. If I remember right, after we moved them in, we were pretty much kicked out (nicely) by our daughters and/or the RA's because they had dorm things planned. Two different events, almost three months apart...
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Post by johnnysmom on Jul 2, 2018 22:29:45 GMT
Very rude. My youngest is very well behaved in public (at home can be different) But even so I’m always overly cautious of where my much younger kid should/shouldn’t be and we always keep many names of possible sitters. If for some reason we can’t get a sitter or grandparent then one of us stays home. It’s just what you do when you have multiple kids.
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Post by SnoopyFan on Jul 2, 2018 22:37:26 GMT
When my oldest (now 26) and youngest (now 24) were starting college I attended both orientations. Orientation wasn't held right at the start of school, it was a couple of months before. For my oldest I think his orientation was in June and the youngest had his in May. School, of course, started in August.
Sending them alone wasn't really an option because they chose colleges 1000+ miles from home. We flew down and I had to rent a car. Orientation wasn't a day-long event -- it was several days. I stayed in a hotel each time and they stayed in the dorms with all the other students. I didn't see them during orientation. The parents and students were separated and going through their own information sessions. I'm glad I didn't skip either because I learned so much! At my oldest son's school they gave us a whole book (literally!! It was a soft cover bound book.) of information that I referred back to so many times during the four years my son was a student. We were given information on every thing you could possibly think of.
I don't remember anyone having young kids at either school's orientation. I totally validate you, OP. That would have frustrated me!!
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