samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Jul 13, 2018 15:53:55 GMT
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Post by fuji on Jul 13, 2018 16:10:40 GMT
Sounds like it will be Russian hackers. I know everything Mueller does is leading up to the grand finale, so I should appreciate the baby steps.
But...dang...I was really hoping it would be someone with Trump in their name.
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LeaP
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Post by LeaP on Jul 13, 2018 16:11:17 GMT
Roger Stone?
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on Jul 13, 2018 16:13:21 GMT
12 Russian hackers. It’s actually kind of big, they include allegations of hacking voting process software.
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Post by fuji on Jul 13, 2018 16:16:22 GMT
12 Russian hackers. It’s actually kind of big, they include allegations of hacking voting process software. It is. And the timing is brilliant considering he will soon be meeting with Putin. I just want him and his smug inner circle gone before the country implodes. But yes...it is confirmation that the election was compromised.
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PrettyInPeank
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 13, 2018 16:19:33 GMT
Since this is unprecedented, now what? That clown sits because of hackers.
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Post by fuji on Jul 13, 2018 16:24:01 GMT
Since this is unprecedented, now what? That clown sits because of hackers. Probably nothing as long as the GOP is in charge.
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on Jul 13, 2018 16:38:32 GMT
My thoughts on this:
These indictments are actual officers in the Russian military. Putin has shrugged off the hacking before, saying "well, maybe they are just patriotic Russians acting on their own." Putin could pretend to be entirely ignorant of the efforts, he had nothing to do with it.
Except now it's the Russian military. Under command of Putin. Unless Putin's officers are going rogue and doing whatever they like, Putin knew about this. He approved it. He ordered it. It was a military operation, carried out against the United States. It's going to be very difficult to deny that this was done to harm our nation.
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PLurker
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Jun 28, 2014 3:48:49 GMT
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Post by PLurker on Jul 13, 2018 16:39:06 GMT
Trump has been briefed and yet is still claiming "witch hunt" and will probably not take a stand with putin when he meets him Monday. He'd rather attack US intelligence because it's to his favor. screw the rest of us
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Post by Merge on Jul 13, 2018 16:42:00 GMT
Ironically, I'd bet that Peter Strzok played a large part in catching these guys before he was removed. Catching Russians trying to do us harm is his speciality.
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katybee
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Jun 25, 2014 23:25:39 GMT
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Post by katybee on Jul 13, 2018 16:47:01 GMT
Guess it wasn’t actually the Chinese or a 400 lb guy sitting on his bed after all. Shocker.
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Post by Merge on Jul 13, 2018 16:47:48 GMT
I don't agree that the bias of the indicted media source is "doubtless," but I'm very interested to see which one it is.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 13, 2018 16:50:40 GMT
12 Russian hackers. It’s actually kind of big, they include allegations of hacking voting process software. hopefully they figure something out before November as I don't want a repeat. I'll be happy to go back to felt pens if necessary (Although ours are done on a machine that also prints the results that you check and approve)
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 13, 2018 17:51:08 GMT
Does this mean we can have Hillary instead?
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Post by dewryce on Jul 13, 2018 19:19:08 GMT
Here is the section related to a congressional candidate seeking and receiving information on an opponent from them, sorry so small.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 13, 2018 19:22:44 GMT
As well as the information about hacking into state election boards and other similar entities. Specifically Georgia, Iowa and Florida. It does not address what was done with the voter registration and other information they were able to get or if they made any changes to the software.
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Post by pierogi on Jul 13, 2018 19:24:15 GMT
Since this is unprecedented, now what? That clown sits because of hackers. Probably nothing as long as the GOP is in charge. Exactly. As more evidence trickles out, we're learning they're just as guilty as he is. This is an illegitimate president.
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Post by pierogi on Jul 13, 2018 19:26:10 GMT
My thoughts on this: These indictments are actual officers in the Russian military. Putin has shrugged off the hacking before, saying "well, maybe they are just patriotic Russians acting on their own." Putin could pretend to be entirely ignorant of the efforts, he had nothing to do with it. Except now it's the Russian military. Under command of Putin. Unless Putin's officers are going rogue and doing whatever they like, Putin knew about this. He approved it. He ordered it. It was a military operation, carried out against the United States. It's going to be very difficult to deny that this was done to harm our nation. Given Putin is in charge of FSB and GRU, there has always been no possible way he could not have known.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 13, 2018 19:32:50 GMT
Probably nothing as long as the GOP is in charge. Exactly. As more evidence trickles out, we're learning they're just as guilty as he is. This is an illegitimate president. Yes, they are. And I want to know, for all of the conservatives that "didn't vote for him," are they calling their Representatives and Senators to ask that he be held accountable? Because I can tell you Ted Cruz doesn't care a bit about what I, as a registered Democrat, have to say about this. But if registered Republicans start calling the message has a chance of being heard because it could have an impact on his election.
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casii
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Jun 29, 2014 14:40:44 GMT
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Post by casii on Jul 13, 2018 19:35:47 GMT
Probably nothing as long as the GOP is in charge. Exactly. As more evidence trickles out, we're learning they're just as guilty as he is. This is an illegitimate president. At what point does Trump's base admit that yes, Trump was installed by Russia? Or at least recognize that this isn't a baseless witch hunt?
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Post by pierogi on Jul 13, 2018 19:41:47 GMT
Exactly. As more evidence trickles out, we're learning they're just as guilty as he is. This is an illegitimate president. At what point does Trump's base admit that yes, Trump was installed by Russia? Or at least recognize that this isn't a baseless witch hunt?
I'll help you out there: never. These are people who surround themselves with fake news, in a fake information echo chamber. They believe that Sandy Hook was a hoax, that the world is 6,000 years old, and the FBI is suddenly full of leftwing socialists. Evidence means nothing. Facts mean nothing. You can't convince them, so save your effort for those Americans in the middle.
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Post by andreasmom on Jul 13, 2018 19:45:25 GMT
At what point does Trump's base admit that yes, Trump was installed by Russia? Or at least recognize that this isn't a baseless witch hunt?
I'll help you out there: never. These are people who surround themselves with fake news, in a fake information echo chamber. They believe that Sandy Hook was a hoax, that the world is 6,000 years old, and the FBI is suddenly full of leftwing socialists. Evidence means nothing. Facts mean nothing. You can't convince them, so save your effort for those Americans in the middle. I think that is the worst part of all of this. Facts don’t matter.
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casii
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Post by casii on Jul 13, 2018 19:49:26 GMT
At what point does Trump's base admit that yes, Trump was installed by Russia? Or at least recognize that this isn't a baseless witch hunt?
I'll help you out there: never. These are people who surround themselves with fake news, in a fake information echo chamber. They believe that Sandy Hook was a hoax, that the world is 6,000 years old, and the FBI is suddenly full of leftwing socialists. Evidence means nothing. Facts mean nothing. You can't convince them, so save your effort for those Americans in the middle. (Some of the deniers are here even though they claim they didn't vote for Trump and say he's not their guy)
So, we're still doomed.
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on Jul 13, 2018 19:52:23 GMT
My thoughts on this: These indictments are actual officers in the Russian military. Putin has shrugged off the hacking before, saying "well, maybe they are just patriotic Russians acting on their own." Putin could pretend to be entirely ignorant of the efforts, he had nothing to do with it. Except now it's the Russian military. Under command of Putin. Unless Putin's officers are going rogue and doing whatever they like, Putin knew about this. He approved it. He ordered it. It was a military operation, carried out against the United States. It's going to be very difficult to deny that this was done to harm our nation. Given Putin is in charge of FSB and GRU, there has always been no possible way he could not have known. He always knew, but he could pretend that he didn’t. Now that Russian military officers have been indicted, there’s no plausible denial. a question....when the members of a foreign military attack another nation with the intent to cause destruction or harm to that nation, what is that called?
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Post by pierogi on Jul 13, 2018 19:53:11 GMT
I'll help you out there: never. These are people who surround themselves with fake news, in a fake information echo chamber. They believe that Sandy Hook was a hoax, that the world is 6,000 years old, and the FBI is suddenly full of leftwing socialists. Evidence means nothing. Facts mean nothing. You can't convince them, so save your effort for those Americans in the middle. (Some of the deniers are here even though they claim they didn't vote for Trump and say he's not their guy)
So, we're still doomed.
Even if they didn't vote for him ( ) by their very posts they're staunch supporters. Don't waste your time.
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Post by pierogi on Jul 13, 2018 19:54:48 GMT
Given Putin is in charge of FSB and GRU, there has always been no possible way he could not have known. He always knew, but he could pretend that he didn’t. Now that Russian military officers have been indicted, there’s no plausible denial. a question....when the members of a foreign military attack another nation with the intent to cause destruction or harm to that nation, what is that called? I believe that's called an act of war, my friend. Too bad those in charge are collaborators with the enemy.
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Post by silverlining on Jul 13, 2018 23:49:31 GMT
I didn't realize that this hacking began ON THE SAME DAY that our president said "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing."
Bizarre coincidence??
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 14, 2018 0:48:47 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 14, 2018 0:50:23 GMT
I didn't realize that this hacking began ON THE SAME DAY that our president said "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing." Bizarre coincidence?? NO coincidence!! Well planned.... Trump opened the narrative....
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Post by cade387 on Jul 14, 2018 0:59:38 GMT
He always knew, but he could pretend that he didn’t. Now that Russian military officers have been indicted, there’s no plausible denial. a question....when the members of a foreign military attack another nation with the intent to cause destruction or harm to that nation, what is that called? I believe that's called an act of war, my friend. Too bad those in charge are collaborators with the enemy. In my wildest dreams our allies in NATO also see it as an act of war, then magically get Putin out of power, relieve us of DT and save us from ourselves.
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