flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Aug 7, 2018 17:22:13 GMT
Well, the government thinks I am, anyway. I'm an "Undeclared/Unidentified/whatever it's called" but in order to vote in the primaries you have to be one or the other, and since the candidate I want to support for Governor is an R, I had to make a temporary declaration. It's just for 30 days or so and then I'll be able to switch back to my my preferred "I do my own thing" status. And just to be clear, lest anyone think I've completely gone off my rocker  , I support this particular candidate due to his concern for a couple of non-partisan causes that are important to me. In my state if you're not an R you don't have much of a chance, anyway. So does this mean that I can help skew the 'Do Republicans Support Trump" polls?  |
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Post by annabella on Aug 7, 2018 17:29:25 GMT
You should stay republican so you can vote in the next Presidential primaries and make sure the person you don't want to be President doesn't get the nomination.
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 7, 2018 17:34:00 GMT
I’m really glad our state has open primaries, if you’re a registered independent you go in the day of election and declare which ballot you want to vote on Rep or Dem, no need to change an affiliation. I’m not sure about how someone registered for one party could change to vote for the other if they wanted to though.
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Post by flute4peace on Aug 7, 2018 17:36:02 GMT
Yes I can switch back and forth as much as I want. For the general election here you do not need to be declared. The only reason you do for the primaries is because there are separate ballots. (our county election clerk was there and told me to call her office next week to get the date that I can come in and switch it back - she couldn't remember off the top of her head but said it's sometime in September).
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Post by PaperAngel on Aug 7, 2018 17:37:54 GMT
I’m really glad our state has open primaries, if you’re a registered independent you go in the day of election and declare which ballot you want to vote on Rep or Dem, no need to change an affiliation. I’m not sure about how someone registered for one party could change to vote for the other if they wanted to though. This is me in NC. A non-independent can only vote in the primary of the party for which s/he is registered. Like the OP, s/he would have to legally change her/his affiliation to either independent or the other party by the registration deadline prior to the election to vote in that party's primary. |
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Post by flute4peace on Aug 7, 2018 17:44:14 GMT
I’m really glad our state has open primaries, if you’re a registered independent you go in the day of election and declare which ballot you want to vote on Rep or Dem, no need to change an affiliation. I’m not sure about how someone registered for one party could change to vote for the other if they wanted to though. This is probably technically what I did. When they checked me in to vote they saw that I was unaffiliated and had me sign a little form stating that I was declaring as a R. Then they gave me the R ballot. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 7, 2018 19:39:12 GMT
DH and I are talking about voting in the primaries for the first time ever just so our former governor doesn’t make it onto the ballot in November. He made a total mess of things the last time he was in office so I’m really hoping that people here don’t have short memories about what a disaster he actually was.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 7, 2018 19:59:35 GMT
Girl, you need to make a “Walkaway” YouTube video.
You’d probably get more clicks if you had been a Democrat, but maybe you could also film yourself putting on your makeup while playing Grand Theft Auto.
#Monetize
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Post by hop2 on Aug 7, 2018 20:01:13 GMT
I’m really glad our state has open primaries, if you’re a registered independent you go in the day of election and declare which ballot you want to vote on Rep or Dem, no need to change an affiliation. I’m not sure about how someone registered for one party could change to vote for the other if they wanted to though. This is probably technically what I did. When they checked me in to vote they saw that I was unaffiliated and had me sign a little form stating that I was declaring as a R. Then they gave me the R ballot. we can do that here but we have to mail in a change form to go back to unaffiliated |
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Post by littlemama on Aug 7, 2018 20:16:44 GMT
I think in my state, you don't have to declare in advance, you just need to state which ballot you want for a presidential primary. I am pretty sure that today's ballot is all inclusive, but you can only vote in one party's primary. I'll find that out in about an hour when I hit the polls.
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Post by Pahina722 on Aug 7, 2018 20:21:17 GMT
The only reason I stay registered as a Republican is so that I can vote in primaries for the region and state. My portion of Florida is SOLIDLY and overwhelmingly conservative, so there is no question, really, of Democrat or Republican, but of moderate Republican or Bible-thumping, Confederate monument saving, Trump-humping Republican.
Yet another reason I can’t wait to retire and move.
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Post by just PEAchy on Aug 7, 2018 22:54:09 GMT
I've never had to register with a party. When I vote in a primary, I'm just asked if I want a D or an R ballot. I cross over all the time.
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Post by SockMonkey on Aug 7, 2018 23:08:09 GMT
Girl, you need to make a “Walkaway” YouTube video. You’d probably get more clicks if you had been a Democrat, but maybe you could also film yourself putting on your makeup while playing Grand Theft Auto. #Monetize  |
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Post by lisae on Aug 7, 2018 23:44:15 GMT
I’m really glad our state has open primaries, if you’re a registered independent you go in the day of election and declare which ballot you want to vote on Rep or Dem, no need to change an affiliation. I’m not sure about how someone registered for one party could change to vote for the other if they wanted to though. This is me in NC. A non-independent can only vote in the primary of the party for which s/he is registered. Like the OP, s/he would have to legally change her/his affiliation to either independent or the other party by the registration deadline prior to the election to vote in that party's primary. I'm confused. Are you saying that you would want to vote for a primary candidate of a party you are not registered for. For example, if you were registered Democrat, you would want the option of the Republican primary ballot if possible? Personally I don't think there should be open primaries. The primary is for the party to pick its candidate. I don't think Independents should vote in the primary. Pick the party that best fits your values, stick with them, and vote to chose the best candidate for that party. In the general election, vote for whatever party you want. I know that isn't a popular opinion but it has always been mine. |
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Post by pyccku on Aug 8, 2018 0:12:36 GMT
The problem is that as taxpayers in AZ, we fund the primaries. So even as an independent, we must be allowed to vote in the primaries.
If a party wants to hold a private, members-only primary, they have to pay for it themselves.
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Post by coaliesquirrel on Aug 8, 2018 0:21:07 GMT
The only reason I stay registered as a Republican is so that I can vote in primaries for the region and state. My portion of Florida is SOLIDLY and overwhelmingly conservative, so there is no question, really, of Democrat or Republican, but of moderate Republican or Bible-thumping, Confederate monument saving, Trump-humping Republican. This is me. I'm registered R but my views are squarely in the D camp. But Rs almost always get elected, and I want to know I've done everything I can to make sure fucking fascist Kobach and his ilk don't make it through the primaries. |
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Post by txdancermom on Aug 8, 2018 1:04:49 GMT
I understand completely, in Texas we don't have to declare what party we want until you walk up to the polling place for primary elections. I usually look at the local and state elections and determine which party primary I want to vote in. usually one year it is D, the next R....so I am on the mailing list for both parties!
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Post by hop2 on Aug 8, 2018 1:26:40 GMT
This is me in NC. A non-independent can only vote in the primary of the party for which s/he is registered. Like the OP, s/he would have to legally change her/his affiliation to either independent or the other party by the registration deadline prior to the election to vote in that party's primary. I'm confused. Are you saying that you would want to vote for a primary candidate of a party you are not registered for. For example, if you were registered Democrat, you would want the option of the Republican primary ballot if possible? Personally I don't think there should be open primaries. The primary is for the party to pick its candidate. I don't think Independents should vote in the primary. Pick the party that best fits your values, stick with them, and vote to chose the best candidate for that party. In the general election, vote for whatever party you want. I know that isn't a popular opinion but it has always been mine. I’m opposite you. I think all primaries should be open ( but a person could only vote in one not both ) I believe we’d get better candidates in that fashion. I believe we’d get more candidates with more ideas. I think an open primary can change the effect of rich people ‘buying’ the nomination with large donations to the party ( ie My current Governor who bought his party nomination ) because independent voters will not care about party donations when they choose a candidate to vote for. But I’m never going to get my wish so it doesn’t matter what I think |
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Post by freebird on Aug 8, 2018 1:37:34 GMT
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Post by PaperAngel on Aug 8, 2018 1:49:37 GMT
This is me in NC. A non-independent can only vote in the primary of the party for which s/he is registered. Like the OP, s/he would have to legally change her/his affiliation to either independent or the other party by the registration deadline prior to the election to vote in that party's primary. I'm confused. Are you saying that you would want to vote for a primary candidate of a party you are not registered for. For example, if you were registered Democrat, you would want the option of the Republican primary ballot if possible? Personally I don't think there should be open primaries. The primary is for the party to pick its candidate. I don't think Independents should vote in the primary. Pick the party that best fits your values, stick with them, and vote to chose the best candidate for that party. In the general election, vote for whatever party you want. I know that isn't a popular opinion but it has always been mine. I apologize that my post was unclear. I was not giving an opinion, rather self-identifying as an unaffiliated/independent voter in a state with open primaries & answering the quoted poster's pondering statement about an affiliated voter wanting to participate in the primary of the opposing party in my state of residence. However, to answer your question, I'm a non-affiliate/independent voter who appreciates open primaries (& dislikes our two party system/identifies with neither party/evaluates candidates individually based on their platforms, not their party affiliation). |
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Post by shamrock on Aug 8, 2018 2:11:55 GMT
The only reason I stay registered as a Republican is so that I can vote in primaries for the region and state. My portion of Florida is SOLIDLY and overwhelmingly conservative, so there is no question, really, of Democrat or Republican, but of moderate Republican or Bible-thumping, Confederate monument saving, Trump-humping Republican. This is me. I'm registered R but my views are squarely in the D camp. But Rs almost always get elected, and I want to know I've done everything I can to make sure fucking fascist Kobach and his ilk don't make it through the primaries. You must be in KS too! I stayed R when I had to update my registration due to moving just so I could try to get more moderate Republicans. Kobach worries me! |
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Post by Zee on Aug 8, 2018 2:12:17 GMT
I think I am no longer officially Democrat. In PA I had to declare but I just got my GA license today and they do voter registration but there were no questions about parties. I didn't have to say in IA either but we have caucuses not primaries, which I never once attended and don't get and they only do it so they can be first in the nation which they're not in any other way except pork production. I won't deny them their chance to shine lol. But the caucus is dumb.
IL was so long ago I don't remember but I think I wasn't affiliated there either. Or maybe I was, I did get calls to support Democratic candidates.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 8, 2018 2:21:15 GMT
I've been a Republican since I turned 18. I used to think primaries were not important, I think differently now.
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Post by lucyg on Aug 8, 2018 6:15:46 GMT
I'm confused. Are you saying that you would want to vote for a primary candidate of a party you are not registered for. For example, if you were registered Democrat, you would want the option of the Republican primary ballot if possible? Personally I don't think there should be open primaries. The primary is for the party to pick its candidate. I don't think Independents should vote in the primary. Pick the party that best fits your values, stick with them, and vote to chose the best candidate for that party. In the general election, vote for whatever party you want. I know that isn't a popular opinion but it has always been mine. I’m opposite you. I think all primaries should be open ( but a person could only vote in one not both ) I believe we’d get better candidates in that fashion. I believe we’d get more candidates with more ideas. I think an open primary can change the effect of rich people ‘buying’ the nomination with large donations to the party ( ie My current Governor who bought his party nomination ) because independent voters will not care about party donations when they choose a candidate to vote for. But I’m never going to get my wish so it doesn’t matter what I think That's what they were thinking when they went to open primaries in California, but it didn't have that effect. Instead, it has pushed the parties to the extremes. I hate the open primaries. I think Democrats should be choosing the Democratic candidate, not just anyone who walks in the door and wants to "help out."  |
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Post by flute4peace on Aug 8, 2018 23:09:39 GMT
This is my area. There are very few Democrats on the ballots. Never for local stuff. The only reason I stay registered as a Republican is so that I can vote in primaries for the region and state. My portion of Florida is SOLIDLY and overwhelmingly conservative, so there is no question, really, of Democrat or Republican, but of moderate Republican or Bible-thumping, Confederate monument saving, Trump-humping Republican. Yet another reason I can’t wait to retire and move. |
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Post by flute4peace on Aug 8, 2018 23:19:41 GMT
Exactly this. He terrifies me. The only reason I stay registered as a Republican is so that I can vote in primaries for the region and state. My portion of Florida is SOLIDLY and overwhelmingly conservative, so there is no question, really, of Democrat or Republican, but of moderate Republican or Bible-thumping, Confederate monument saving, Trump-humping Republican. This is me. I'm registered R but my views are squarely in the D camp. But Rs almost always get elected, and I want to know I've done everything I can to make sure fucking fascist Kobach and his ilk don't make it through the primaries. |
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Post by flute4peace on Aug 8, 2018 23:21:05 GMT
In my state the Republicans are going to win, so the primary is pretty much our general election This is me in NC. A non-independent can only vote in the primary of the party for which s/he is registered. Like the OP, s/he would have to legally change her/his affiliation to either independent or the other party by the registration deadline prior to the election to vote in that party's primary. I'm confused. Are you saying that you would want to vote for a primary candidate of a party you are not registered for. For example, if you were registered Democrat, you would want the option of the Republican primary ballot if possible? Personally I don't think there should be open primaries. The primary is for the party to pick its candidate. I don't think Independents should vote in the primary. Pick the party that best fits your values, stick with them, and vote to chose the best candidate for that party. In the general election, vote for whatever party you want. I know that isn't a popular opinion but it has always been mine. |
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Post by flute4peace on Aug 8, 2018 23:27:50 GMT
I'm still holding out hope that Colyer will somehow pull it off but it's probably just wishful thinking This is me. I'm registered R but my views are squarely in the D camp. But Rs almost always get elected, and I want to know I've done everything I can to make sure fucking fascist Kobach and his ilk don't make it through the primaries. You must be in KS too! I stayed R when I had to update my registration due to moving just so I could try to get more moderate Republicans. Kobach worries me! |
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Post by huskergal on Aug 9, 2018 2:47:56 GMT
I did the same in my state so my vote counted in the primaries. Republicans usually win and I at least wanted to have some say in which one won.
Then I went independent. In Nebraska, you can't vote local Republican primaries. Only state and national.
I wanted to caucus for Bernie Sanders so I had to register as a Democrat to do that. So I am back to a D.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 9, 2018 10:25:22 GMT
The American electoral system is so complicated and anything but straightfoward (I hope the US school pupils get several years of mandatory Civic classes to navigate it later in life). I don't properly understand half of this thread. Counties, declaring what you are to the government (me, a non-US Pea: "None of your effin' business, Gov'!"), switching back and forth (only in some counties/states apparently?), the impact of declaring yourself as an Independent, state versus national, etc. Anyhoo, let's get down to the real nitty-gritty: did you get a free Republican bumper sticker?  |
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, I support this particular candidate due to his concern for a couple of non-partisan causes that are important to me. In my state if you're not an R you don't have much of a chance, anyway.
