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Post by *Shannon on Aug 7, 2018 22:39:59 GMT
My 17 yr old daughter has tentatively been diagnosed with Inattentive ADHD. She does not show the hyperactive/impulsive component of the condition. Her psychiatrist would like her to try Adderall. While I am concerned about the possible habit forming property of the drug, her symptoms have a very negative impact on her daily life - she meets at least 8 of the 9 symptom criteria.
Do you have experience with Adderall - with yourself or a child, family member, etc that you'd be willing to discuss? The good, the bad?
I'd really appreciate any input. Thank you.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Aug 7, 2018 22:41:55 GMT
It made my hair fall out. Absolutely wasn’t worth it for me. I know other adults on it who have had zero issues.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Aug 7, 2018 22:46:32 GMT
I just used Vyvanse, Dexedrine and Ritalin. I got really relaxed from it but my GP is bent on no amphetamines and the psych thinks they are great. I have an active Rx for Ritalin and have a full bottle. I just don’t want to take another pill. Your daughter might do very well. Everyone is so different.
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Post by annie on Aug 7, 2018 22:48:03 GMT
Dh has that exact diagnosis. Adderall is a godsend for him. He's night and day different on it. Give it a whirl - might be a great thing for your daughter, too!
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Post by emleyth on Aug 7, 2018 23:00:10 GMT
When you have ADD (both my children and myself are inattentive type), you don’t have the same reaction to Adderall that you do if you don’t have it. Yes, when I would go off Adderall for a few months, the first day or two I would be EXTREMELY productive, but after the first time I noticed it, the next I realized I just could focus and do what “normal” people could do in a day. My DS (18) has been on Adderall since he was 12 and has self regulated taking it since he started high school. He’s a gamer who often does all nighters with friends, but never used Adderall to stay up because it doesn’t affect his brain like it does kids who aren’t ADD and use Adderall.
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Post by *Shannon on Aug 7, 2018 23:03:09 GMT
Dani-Mani, elannah & andanniel - thank you!
Dani-Mani, did you end up on something else? elannah, I am seeing that a lot in my reading - that general practitioners are against the use of amphetamines, while psychiatrists are willing to give them a go. anniel - we really need that night and day difference. She's so excited about trying it.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 7, 2018 23:05:39 GMT
Everybody reacts differently. My son, as a teenager, started with Adderall (made him jumpy and anxious), then Concerta (stomach aches and pervasive sadness), then Vyvanse (just the appetite loss that seems to come with all these drugs).
It’s really a case of finding whatever works AND has the least disruptive side effects. And then finding the right dosage. Hopefully, the first med will do the trick.
The important things are to act as her observer, help her understand how the body needs time to adjust with each med change, help her be a good data keeper and reporter. (And even after just saying you need to give a drug needed time, I made the decision to call the doctor after only a few days of the miserable Concerta experience, so the rules aren’t ironclad. Sometimes it’s just gut feeling.)
Good luck.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 7, 2018 23:21:03 GMT
Another thing, while my son appreciates the focus and productivity benefits of meds, he complains that they blunt his affect and personality. Let’s say his name is Jack; he says “When I take a pill, it takes the Jack out of me.”
It’s a common complaint. Luckily, since Vyvanse (with short-acting Ritalin if needed in the evenings) worked best for my son, he could choose not to take it during times he valued personality more than focus. (He did a lot of theatre in high school. Interestingly, he took pills for rehearsals but not performances. Off topic, but he also often skipped pills on the weekends so he could “catch up on eating.”)
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Post by *Shannon on Aug 7, 2018 23:26:23 GMT
emleyth - I'm understanding that abuse isn't as much of a concern if you have ADHD because it simply normalizes the brain, it doesn't amp it up beyond what's "normal." But, if you don't have ADHD, it can be addictive because you do get energy, etc that is beyond the norm. Her doc said that we'd know quickly if it wasn't working and to have her stop taking it if it's not evident that it's helping.
AmeliaBloomer - I really hope Adderall does the trick. Thanks for your input about being her observer. I have told her that if she takes it I'm her dispensary and her record keeper.
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Post by eleezybeth on Aug 7, 2018 23:43:29 GMT
Medications for ADD saved my kid and my marriage. You will know when you need them and in my experience it was night and day. DH was only willing to be DX’ed after being beaten into coming with to the psychs office for DD. He sat there nearly in tears how his entire life had been impacted and that help was available. Night and day difference for both. Really truly bright people who just need a little help to shine.
We have run the gammet. DD especially. She lost too much weight on Adderral. She was an angry beast on Concerta. Vynase has been a God send. Works great for her. She takes an Adderral booster in the afternoon and the Vynase is extended release.
Would I prefer my kid not be on drugs? Sure. But you can come spend two days with her one medicated and one not and let me know how you think her life might be different. She went from kicked out of class to being the best student who was completely engaged. We also work on allllll the behavior modifications too. It happens together and while I’d like to say they are enough, they are not. The combo has been a great thing in her life.
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Post by darkangel090260 on Aug 7, 2018 23:47:31 GMT
I would say No to it. It works great with someone is hyper but for someone who is not it will just make them hyper as hell.
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Post by scrappinwithoutpeas on Aug 7, 2018 23:53:10 GMT
DD#2 took Adderall and it helped a great deal with focusing during her HS years. She didn't like the loss of appetite but dealt ok with that by taking breaks from the med when she needed to.
She did NOT have a good experience with Vyvanse though. Can't remember the exact details, but after not taking it for a while, she ended up with a bad reaction to it (made her loopy and disoriented) when she did go back to it during a heavy testing week at school (yeah, that was a fun week!). After that experience when she went back on meds her doctor (new doc while she was away at college) changed her to something else entirely that worked great for her.
As other peas have said, every person's chemistry is different (even among ADD/ADHD sufferers), so what works for one may not work for others. I totally get your trepidation with starting a teen on these meds though - it's a tough choice, because they do all have some side effects along with the benefits. It's a balancing game. You know your child best so as you observer and chronicle her reactions (great advice!), listen to her and trust your instincts.
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Post by kate on Aug 7, 2018 23:57:00 GMT
It’s really a case of finding whatever works AND has the least disruptive side effects. And then finding the right dosage. Hopefully, the first med will do the trick. A thousand times this. My teen who has combined-type ADHD has had success with Focalin. We had to go through some dark days in elementary school while trying to find the right medicine and dose. Also, we had one med that worked great for a year or two, but the side effects gradually increased until they were intolerable. Medication has made a night-and-day difference for my kid. He's really smart and creative, but his output at school was not reflecting that. The meds help him not only with schoolwork, but also with his creative work - he has always been a fountain of ideas, but now those ideas get turned into projects. FINISHED projects. When he was young, he had stacks of notebooks that each contained the beginning of a story. It was heartbreaking. He was becoming known as the class clown, and his test scores did not match the abilities we saw... Years later, he has won awards in music, sports, and several academic disciplines. His test scores are sky-high, and he's off to a famous college in a few weeks. The meds didn't do those things for him; rather, they allowed him to do the necessary work. They also help him with social situations - he can pay better attention to social cues. He doesn't experience the blunting that AmeliaBloomer's son does. He is still sparkly and talkative, but on meds, his friends and family have a fighting chance of getting a word in edgewise. He does decide for himself when to take the medication. School days are always a Yes, but the afternoon short (4 hour) dose for homework time is a maybe. Weekends depend on his schedule. Sometimes he'll take only a short dose, sometimes long, sometimes both, sometimes none. He doesn't love not being hungry - that's really the only downside. I also have a friend (adult) who is on Adderall. He takes it as needed, no ill effects (he has a shaved head, so I can't speak to the hair loss issue LOL). Hang in there. Listen to your mommy instincts. Remember that one bad experience with a medication doesn't mean that all medications will be bad - but don't be afraid to bail on a med if your kid is miserable.
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Post by *Shannon on Aug 8, 2018 0:21:49 GMT
Thank you all so much! I really appreciate all of your personal input.
My daughter is taking all college course this semester, so her schedule is going to be all over the place, and two of her classes are almost three hrs long. Sitting through those classes is almost too much for someone without ADHD, I can't imagine someone with ADHD doing it successfully.
Mon & Wed 10a-11:15a Forensic Anthropology
1:30p - 4:20p - Chemistry
Tues & Thurs
7p-8:50p College Algebra
Saturday 9a-12:30p Intro to Philosophy
Her doc wanted her to try it for a while before classes start, which is 8/20. So, she has a bit to see if Adderall will work for her.
My husband is very concerned about the addictive quality of stimulants... to where, at this point, he doesn't think she should take the meds. But, this is all really new and he needs to do his own research and really try to understand how the symptoms affect her.
I am concerned, but not to the point that I am against her taking it. Colorado law states that a minor who is fifteen years of age or older may consent to receive mental health services to be rendered by a facility or a professional person. Colo. Rev. Stat. § 27-65-103(2). This includes counseling and medication. She can legally receive and take the meds without our consent. Things could get interesting around here.
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Post by mom on Aug 8, 2018 1:52:53 GMT
My oldest DS (19) had the exact diagnosis at 16. He started taking Adderral. It has been night and day, for the better. Yes, it has effected his appetite but that has been the biggest 'negative' for him. He has to make a conscience effort to eat, otherwise he is never hungry.
I can only speak to how my son was, but the adderral is the best thing to happen to him. He is a smart kid but could never focus. It has been a game changer for him and I don't think he will ever look back with regrets.
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Post by anniebeth24 on Aug 8, 2018 2:40:41 GMT
DD started on Concerta in 2nd grade. The change was incredible - she finally learned how to read because she could actually look at the page for more than a moment without being distracted.
About four years later, she said she could tell it just wasn't working anymore and she was switched to Adderall.
One thing we noticed - she had to be consistent with it. If she took a couple of days off of the meds, when she started again, her personality was very muted and she seemed sort of 'out of it' until her system got used to it again.
SInce finishing school, she has chosen not to take any meds. Doesn't like how they made her feel. Kind of like a previous poster, she said she doesn't feel like herself when on it. Without meds, she has gained a lot of weight. Her ADD issue is predominantly an impulse control issue and the meds allowed her to control overeating in addition to being an appetite suppressant.
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Post by prapea on Aug 8, 2018 2:55:44 GMT
My 17 yr old daughter has tentatively been diagnosed with Inattentive ADHD. She does not show the hyperactive/impulsive component of the condition. Her psychiatrist would like her to try Adderall. While I am concerned about the possible habit forming property of the drug, her symptoms have a very negative impact on her daily life - she meets at least 8 of the 9 symptom criteria. Do you have experience with Adderall - with yourself or a child, family member, etc that you'd be willing to discuss? The good, the bad? I'd really appreciate any input. Thank you. I am diagnosed wih ADHD. I have been on adderall for few years now. I started woth 10 mg daily and now I am on 20 mg. I take the tablet form and not the capsule. In the beginning, I had no appetite but that lasted only for few months. I now make conscious effort to eat my meals on time and I also workout religiously 4 days a week. I did have insomnia with the medication. But once I cut out my evening in take of coffee and alcohol - i sleep better with no issues.
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Post by prapea on Aug 8, 2018 3:00:45 GMT
Thank you all so much! I really appreciate all of your personal input. My daughter is taking all college course this semester, so her schedule is going to be all over the place, and two of her classes are almost three hrs long. Sitting through those classes is almost too much for someone without ADHD, I can't imagine someone with ADHD doing it successfully. Mon & Wed10a-11:15a Forensic Anthropology 1:30p - 4:20p - Chemistry Tues & Thurs
7p-8:50p College Algebra Saturday9a-12:30p Intro to Philosophy Her doc wanted her to try it for a while before classes start, which is 8/20. So, she has a bit to see if Adderall will work for her. My husband is very concerned about the addictive quality of stimulants... to where, at this point, he doesn't think she should take the meds. But, this is all really new and he needs to do his own research and really try to understand how the symptoms affect her. I am concerned, but not to the point that I am against her taking it. Colorado law states that a minor who is fifteen years of age or older may consent to receive mental health services to be rendered by a facility or a professional person. Colo. Rev. Stat. § 27-65-103(2). This includes counseling and medication. She can legally receive and take the meds without our consent. Things could get interesting around here. I hesitate at times to reply to these kind of threads because of the stigma attached to these medications and diagnosis. That’s why, in my previous reply, I didn’t puy how long I have been on adderall. Like mom said, adderall has been a game changet for me. I also take levothyroxine for my thyroid issues and have been on it for almost 13 years. I have been on adderall for almost 8 years. My doctor said, you wouldn’t think that your thyroid medication is adfictive and have to take it daily then treat adderall as the same way. I reaf about it before taking it. The difference it made in my life makes me not to question anything else. I can enjoy my life, my work, my kid and also remember and nit drive everyone crazy with my hyper activeness.
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Post by jumperhop on Aug 8, 2018 3:04:10 GMT
DS is has inattentive ADHD. He takes methylphenidate. I like being around him when he is on his meds. when he is off his meds life for HIM and everyone around him is rough. His brain is wired different. When my neurosurgeon told me, “you need to take these meds or else you are going to have seizures.” I took the meds without question. It the same thing with ADHD we take the meds so we can function, get along with people, focus and be productive. Jen
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Post by buckeyegirl on Aug 8, 2018 3:24:15 GMT
My son has the same diagnosis. After trying Focalin and Vyvanse with less than ideal results, we learned about Intuniv. It is not a stimulant and it does nothing for hyperactivity and impulse control (which he didn't struggle with anyway.) The only negative side effect we found was that it made him sleepy so we started taking it at night. He also takes a very small dose of a new drug called Dyanavel in the mornings and this combination is working very well for him. Intuniv also has a generic that you can get for $5 which is a plus.
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Post by needmysanity on Aug 8, 2018 3:33:35 GMT
Our youngest was on it for 4-5 years. He did better on it than another other ADD med he had been on. It did kill his appetite like most meds do so we would take him off it during the weekend and long holidays.
He is 18 now and he asked to try life off of meds. I personally want him back on but he is managing okay off of it.
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Post by mikewozowski on Aug 8, 2018 3:34:38 GMT
my DD has this diagnosis, as well. vyvanse has been good for her. some side effects.
try the medicine. she will know if it helps her or not. if it does, it is worth it!
she is also wanting to wean down, or go off, as she is finished with school, but idk if she will be able to get off completely. she has a pretty demanding job and needs to be able to pay attention there.
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Post by mygigiscraps on Aug 8, 2018 4:27:40 GMT
The best thing my doctor ever did for me was change my prescription from Adderall to Adzenys XR ODT. After taking Adderall for two years, I realized that I had a pounding headache every afternoon, often forgot the second dose, and still wasn't able to really focus. With the Adzenys, it's time released, so I only need one dose daily. I have had zero side effects, and my focus is much better than it's ever been.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Aug 8, 2018 7:51:20 GMT
Thank you all so much! I really appreciate all of your personal input. My daughter is taking all college course this semester, so her schedule is going to be all over the place, and two of her classes are almost three hrs long. Sitting through those classes is almost too much for someone without ADHD, I can't imagine someone with ADHD doing it successfully. Mon & Wed10a-11:15a Forensic Anthropology 1:30p - 4:20p - Chemistry Tues & Thurs
7p-8:50p College Algebra Saturday9a-12:30p Intro to Philosophy Her doc wanted her to try it for a while before classes start, which is 8/20. So, she has a bit to see if Adderall will work for her. My husband is very concerned about the addictive quality of stimulants... to where, at this point, he doesn't think she should take the meds. But, this is all really new and he needs to do his own research and really try to understand how the symptoms affect her. I am concerned, but not to the point that I am against her taking it. Colorado law states that a minor who is fifteen years of age or older may consent to receive mental health services to be rendered by a facility or a professional person. Colo. Rev. Stat. § 27-65-103(2). This includes counseling and medication. She can legally receive and take the meds without our consent. Things could get interesting around here. I was diagnosed with Inattentive ADD at 16 (they must have overlooked my hyper active mind) and if she is anything like me, she may love philosophy class. I never took anything for the ADD, they just put me on a 504 plan. I've taken college classes in the past 3 years and most of them I could feel the obstacles come up like seeing gray in a black and white question. And I would feel like doing what I did in my Zoology class my senior year, which was choose an answer, but then write on the back why I chose it. I used to do terrible on tests in school, but from that little leeway, I ended up getting better grades on my Zoology tests. With my college classes, History, Astronomy and Sports Nutrition, they were like that, where most learning of it was black and white and you retain the information by memory. But Philosophy was different. I'm not sure if this goes for all teachers and classes, but with my Intro to Philosophy class, we were invited to share our own insights. And for the way my mind works, it was home for me. I was a fish who could climb this tree. Having said that I personally believe that I don't have ADD and I find it odd that it was the diagnosis they came up with. I would have said it was more like a type of dyslexia where I register information differently. Personally I don't believe in disorders anymore at all, and just believe that I'm more right brain oriented in a school that supported more left brain activity. Philosophy seems to have this beautiful way of bringing the left and right brain to work together. But when it comes to facts, I can only state that Inattentive ADD was what I was diagnosed with. I wish your daughter the best of luck in school this semester!
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