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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 4:16:28 GMT
"An 18-year-old woman has been identified as the “friend” who pushed a 16-year-old girl off of a bridge in Washington state causing her to be seriously injured. Taylor Smith shoved Jordan Holgerson off the bridge on August 7 after Holgerson decided she was too scared to jump, Holgerson’s family told The Sun newspaper. The incident was caught on video, which went viral around the world." I'm tired of idiot people walking around endangering others w/their stupid idiotic thinking. Time to start prosecuting stupid - it may not help in the vast majority of cases of stupid, but even if it stops a few, it's time. This goes for idiot parents who keep loaded guns where toddlers can kill themselves or their siblings, idiot "friends" who hurt their friends, etc. heavy.com/news/2018/08/taylor-smith-jordan-holgerson/ |
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Post by destined2bmom on Aug 17, 2018 4:18:25 GMT
I agree with you and Jordan Holgerson.
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Post by mom on Aug 17, 2018 4:18:57 GMT
Last I read, the case has been sent to prosecutors to see about charges. With the victims injuries, I would be surprised if they don't prosecute the other lady. She didn't have just scratches.
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Post by chaosisapony on Aug 17, 2018 4:34:43 GMT
When I initially heard about this story I avoided watching the video and felt bad for the girl but kind of dismissed it as a friendly prank gone wrong. Then I watched the video and read in greater detail about her injuries. Awful! The "friend" that pushed that poor girl needs to be held accountable for her actions.
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Post by Lexica on Aug 17, 2018 4:49:40 GMT
I read that the friend said she wasn’t sorry for pushing her. Now whether or not that is true, I don’t know.
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Post by gale w on Aug 17, 2018 4:53:17 GMT
But she feels "really bad" and texted an apology. Gee.  |
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Post by jumperhop on Aug 17, 2018 4:57:16 GMT
I will lecture my kids in the morning.
Jen
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Post by flanz on Aug 17, 2018 8:24:54 GMT
Last I read, the case has been sent to prosecutors to see about charges. With the victims injuries, I would be surprised if they don't prosecute the other lady. She didn't have just scratches. That sounded like a really awful belly flop! I didn't read about her injuries, but the one who pushed her should have serious consequences.  |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 17, 2018 8:44:29 GMT
The one who pushed her IS and ADULT!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 8:48:39 GMT
She should most definitely be prosecuted, she could have killed her! An 18 year old must surely know the consequences of falling from a height of 60ft whatever the ground beneath you would be. The water from that height would make it feel like concrete to the impact it would have on a body. How horrific for the injured girl.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 17, 2018 10:15:45 GMT
Hell yes she needs to be prosecuted!
People are wobbly wobbly because the person who pushed that poor teen off the bridge (!) was another teen.
Would they still be so lenient if a forty year old man shoved her off the bridge?
I doubt it.
The woman who pushed her off is a legal adult. We learn in preschool and kindergarten to keep our hands to ourselves. She has no excuse for committing an act that could have killed another.
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Post by peabay on Aug 17, 2018 10:30:18 GMT
I know nothing of these kinds of bridges and jumping etc... because never in a million years would I have ever been standing there. How do kids jump and NOT get hurt?
And I agree that the pusher should face charges - what an awful, mean thing to do.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 17, 2018 10:36:01 GMT
I know nothing of these kinds of bridges and jumping etc... because never in a million years would I have ever been standing there. How do kids jump and NOT get hurt? And I agree that the pusher should face charges - what an awful, mean thing to do. well, if you jump it’s usually feet first to break the water. Looks too high for me but people do it. Being pushed she had no opportunity to control her jump, her body or her entry, and at that height that could be deadly |
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Post by Bridget in MD on Aug 17, 2018 10:47:23 GMT
i saw that video and it made me sick to my stomach. I agree, I think the ADULT should be charged, but maybe this is a lesson for everyone.
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Post by myboysnme on Aug 17, 2018 10:49:44 GMT
This brings to mind the bride to be who got pushed in the pool by a bridesmaid and became paralyzed. She chose not to have any charges but was disappointed in the actions afterward of the friend, now a former friend.
I work in a spinal cord injury unit. Before I worked here I never had any idea how you can go in a split second from fully functioning to quadriplegic - from tripping on a bathroom rug to falling from a porch rail, to jumping in the ocean or even having a child jump on you in the pool.
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Post by mom on Aug 17, 2018 12:04:34 GMT
Last I read, the case has been sent to prosecutors to see about charges. With the victims injuries, I would be surprised if they don't prosecute the other lady. She didn't have just scratches. That sounded like a really awful belly flop! I didn't read about her injuries, but the one who pushed her should have serious consequences. She had something like 5 broken ribs, a punctured lung and air bubbles in her chest. She spent legitimate time ina hospital recovering. I read somewhere that at the height she was pushed, worse injuries should have been expected including spinal injuries. She was lucky. |
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Post by Really Red on Aug 17, 2018 12:39:31 GMT
Kids are stupid. Kids together are even stupider. The brain is not fully formed until your late 20s.
That said, this girl showed NO remorse. She thought it was funny and not a big deal even after the extent of the injuries were known. That is more what I have an issue with than the push. Because the girl who was pushed wanted to jump! She was standing on the other side of the bridge. While of COURSE it doesn't give anyone a right to be pushed, who knows if everyone had to be pushed prior to this girl going and everyone else was fine when they were pushed?
If she had done it and then realized she was an idiot and profusely apologized and learned her lesson, I'd be one for not prosecuting her because in that situation I believe she had a groupthink mentality and wasn't thinking correctly. This does not appear to be the case, so I do think she should be prosecuted.
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Post by disneypal on Aug 17, 2018 12:40:08 GMT
I am not defending her by any means because what she did was stupid - why in the world would you push someone off a bridge? And why would the girl that was pushed even want to jump from a bridge - especially at that height - she didn't make smart choices either.
It looks like the girl was going to jump off the bridge, was hesitate and her "friend" thought it would be funny to push her. Teens are notorious for making bad decisions and not realizing the consequences of their actions. I've had friends push me in the pool when I was a teen (against my wishes) but it isn't the same as pushing someone from that level...still, even pushing someone in a pool when they are not prepared for it could seriously injure them.
Teens make dumb decisions but I do think charges should be brought against her. |
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Post by brina on Aug 17, 2018 12:43:12 GMT
Last I read, the case has been sent to prosecutors to see about charges. With the victims injuries, I would be surprised if they don't prosecute the other lady. She didn't have just scratches. That sounded like a really awful belly flop! I didn't read about her injuries, but the one who pushed her should have serious consequences. She pushed her from 60 feet up. Pushing your friend in the pool from the pool deck is one thing - this is completely different. A 60 foot fall onto water is no joke |
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Post by trollie on Aug 17, 2018 13:15:37 GMT
Mean. What the hell is wrong with people?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 13:49:58 GMT
Someone who has never been held accountable in her entire life. Get ready for the entitled generation.
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Post by mallie on Aug 17, 2018 13:57:27 GMT
I think young people's brains aren't fully formed until later and later because we are not giving them responsiblity and holding them accountable for their actions from a young age. I do not think their brains and neurological functions are being formed properly because we are not teaching them how to function properly.
My grandparent's generation were all working full time jobs in factories, sweatshops, etc by 18. They understood that if they didn't show up for work, that if they mouthed off to their boss, that if they hurt someone -- consequences would happen. And really, it's only Americans who came of age in the 1950s who didn't have to proceed directly into adult life -- they were the first teenagers. Before that, teens were working as hard as any so-called adults, living adult lives.
If humans under 30 could function as adults for millennia, there is no inherent biological reason why people of the same age today cannot. Therefore, IMO, it is not nature, it is nurture. Nurture, bad nurturing, which is affecting neurological development.
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Post by psiluvu on Aug 17, 2018 14:28:37 GMT
I think young people's brains aren't fully formed until later and later because we are not giving them responsiblity and holding them accountable for their actions from a young age. I do not think their brains and neurological functions are being formed properly because we are not teaching them how to function properly. My grandparent's generation were all working full time jobs in factories, sweatshops, etc by 18. They understood that if they didn't show up for work, that if they mouthed off to their boss, that if they hurt someone -- consequences would happen. And really, it's only Americans who came of age in the 1950s who didn't have to proceed directly into adult life -- they were the first teenagers. Before that, teens were working as hard as any so-called adults, living adult lives. If humans under 30 could function as adults for millennia, there is no inherent biological reason why people of the same age today cannot. Therefore, IMO, it is not nature, it is nurture. Nurture, bad nurturing, which is affecting neurological development. This absolutely deserves repeating!!! |
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Post by zookeeper on Aug 17, 2018 14:35:42 GMT
If humans under 30 could function as adults for millennia, there is no inherent biological reason why people of the same age today cannot. Therefore, IMO, it is not nature, it is nurture. Nurture, bad nurturing, which is affecting neurological development. This!!! |
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 17, 2018 15:04:12 GMT
This morning all of the video (or at least more) preceding the push was shown on the news. The injured girl stood on the side of the bridge for about 15 minutes and it seemed like she had changed her mind and didn't want to jump; the "friend" kept egging her on and could be heard saying she was going to push her if she didn't jump.
Also, she told the girl's brother that she didn't know what happened or how she fell. There's supposed to be an announcement today on whether charges will be filed against her - I hope they throw the book at her. That poor girl could've died. Yes it was stupid to even consider jumping off the bridge but if she had, it would've been her own decision and she would've at least gone in the water feet first.
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Post by KikiPea on Aug 17, 2018 15:40:41 GMT
I read that the friend said she wasn’t sorry for pushing her. Now whether or not that is true, I don’t know. The "friend" was on GMA this morning, and she said Jordan was scared and ASKED to be pushed. So she says. By the look on her face, Jordan did not look like she had asked to be pushed. There's always 2 sides to the story, but, if it was Taylor's idea, I do hope she is prosecuted for the injuries she caused. |
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Post by imsirius on Aug 17, 2018 15:51:31 GMT
I read that the friend said she wasn’t sorry for pushing her. Now whether or not that is true, I don’t know. The "friend" was on GMA this morning, and she said Jordan was scared and ASKED to be pushed. So she says. By the look on her face, Jordan did not look like she had asked to be pushed. There's always 2 sides to the story, but, if it was Taylor's idea, I do hope she is prosecuted for the injuries she caused. Jordan said NO twice on that video. I can't imagine being scared and saying “ push me in,” Taylor didn't just push her either, she shoved her FULL FORCE. A little tap to scare her is one thing, but that girl pushed her hard!! She knew exactly what would happen. Now she's lying to save herself from charges. Nice friend. |
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Post by Merge on Aug 17, 2018 16:33:30 GMT
This is what comes of parents who think their darlings can do no wrong. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard, “Oh, he’s just so spirited - we don’t want to stifle that!” in response to behavior notes sent home.
No, lady, your kid isn’t spirited. He’s an asshole. You might want to do something about that before he pushes someone off a bridge.
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 17, 2018 16:39:32 GMT
The "friend" was on GMA this morning, and she said Jordan was scared and ASKED to be pushed. So she says. By the look on her face, Jordan did not look like she had asked to be pushed. There's always 2 sides to the story, but, if it was Taylor's idea, I do hope she is prosecuted for the injuries she caused. Jordan said NO twice on that video. I can't imagine being scared and saying “ push me in,” Taylor didn't just push her either, she shoved her FULL FORCE. A little tap to scare her is one thing, but that girl pushed her hard!! She knew exactly what would happen. Now she's lying to save herself from charges. Nice friend. No means no. If a girl says no when a boy is forcing himself on her it is considered rape. Even if the girl was consenting prior to the “no.” Taylor needs to be prosecuted, even if she had shown remorse that doesn’t make what she did less of a crime. |
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Aug 17, 2018 16:46:01 GMT
How different this would be if it was not videoed. None of us would know about it unless we lived locally where this happened. I imagine this happened quite often in the past and people got away with it because of no evidence!
That said, I feel sorry for all the parties involved, and I think the girl who was pushed off the bridge is very lucky. I hope she will think twice before trying to do something so risky. And the girl who pushed her, I hope she takes responsibility for her actions. Seems like everyone involved has a LOT of growing up to do.
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