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Post by mom26 on Aug 18, 2018 6:29:45 GMT
As some may probably know, I have 6 children. As some may also know, I and my DH are fiscally conservative/socially liberal. (That 'in between' place that really needs its own party, but for now is titled Conservative/Republican.) One child is disabled, so he doesn't have a voice. Two are of the same mind that DH and I are - smaller government conservative and stay-out-of-my-life social liberal. One eschews all things government. Wants to be off the grid and live off the land as much as possible. (It's not as easy as one may think, but they are really trying.) One doesn't give a care at all. One is full-out far left. He puts earbuds in and turns up his TMBG to full voluum if we happen to be watching a conservative news source. If we aren't in the room, he just changes the channel to Seinfeld. And he doesn't even LIKE Seinfeld. It is quite the mix but I tell you, when we get together, we have the most fun. We don't shy away from political discussion at all (except for the one who doesn't give a care. He just goes to his room and plays guitar, lol) and we just...talk. Exchange our differing views - knowing full well we have little chance of changing anyone's mind. BUT, we do walk away understanding the other's viewpoint a little better each time. Even if we may vehemently disagree with it. I wish it could be like that all over the world.
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Post by its me mg on Aug 18, 2018 6:43:26 GMT
My dad is a card carrying NRA member and a Trump supporter ... I still love him We can usually have a civil conversation.
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 18, 2018 7:12:21 GMT
Yes, thank goodness. My DD is a quite vocal leftie, as are pretty much all of her friends. DS (13yo) is a bit young but I am certain that he will also vote left when he's old enough. DD and I took him to his first ever protest march earlier this year (under the pretence of "having brunch"), so the indoctrination is going well.
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Post by Gennifer on Aug 18, 2018 9:20:11 GMT
My kids are still young (in their teens), so my political beliefs definitely influence them. We'll see what happens when they get older.
Also, for the record, I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal, and there's no way in Hell I would self-identify as Republican. The two are NOT mutually exclusive.
I can stomach being considered a Democrat, although I usually correct people and let them know that I'm unaffiliated, and vote for both parties regularly.
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Post by gryroagain on Aug 18, 2018 9:44:04 GMT
Mine are more militantly left than me, sometimes I feel sorry for what I’ve unleashed on the world, and sometimes I am proud They have yet to learn tact and “there is a time and a place”.
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 18, 2018 10:35:06 GMT
Yes, thank goodness! Dd 23 is my marching/protest companion, especially over this past year while she's been home. But she and several of her friends did drive up from school (3.5 hours) for the women's march. It was a lot of fun....they camped in the living room, we all made signs together, etc. We both belong to a very progressive church where the pastor regularly preaches the Gospel which is so antithetical to what's coming from the government today. Ds 26 is somewhat less radical than dd and I are, but as far as I know he's always voted Democrat. He's very anti-trump, and he despise Mitch McConnell, so that's fine with me.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Aug 18, 2018 10:48:11 GMT
My college aged daughter is very liberal (and I thought was!) LOL She is very intelligent and has sound reasons for her beliefs, so I can support her right to have them. High school daughter is still finding her "place" but we share a lot of the same ideas.
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Post by katiejane on Aug 18, 2018 10:48:43 GMT
I don't identify with a party, I would say my kids are left leaning. But dad is very right leaning and we just don't talk politics, social issues, environmental issues.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 18, 2018 11:32:08 GMT
One is full-out far left. He puts earbuds in and turns up his TMBG to full voluum if we happen to be watching a conservative news source. If we aren't in the room, he just changes the channel to Seinfeld. And he doesn't even LIKE Seinfeld. It is quite the mix but I tell you, when we get together, we have the most fun. We don't shy away from political discussion at all (except for the one who doesn't give a care. He just goes to his room and plays guitar, lol) and we just...talk. Exchange our differing views - knowing full well we have little chance of changing anyone's mind. BUT, we do walk away understanding the other's viewpoint a little better each time. Even if we may vehemently disagree with it. (bold mine) You really have my interest picqued. I’ve noticed all the times you use the term “far left” in posts here (negatively, until this post) and usually wonder what that means to you. Of course, the continuum of political ideology is interpreted differently by different people. (I questioned something recently where Bill Maher, Rosie O’Donnell and Michelle Wolf were called “radical” on FOX, which was just totally perplexing to me and would be to any liberal I know. Being abrasive doesn’t determine extremism on either side.) I’ve had a few clues to your interpretation of far left. There was your Walkaway thread and how leftists “come off.” And you once replied to a post here (yes, I looked it up) that included the words “no respect for human life, no personal responsibility, alienation, isolation, disconnect to family life, I want it now, Me me me,” and you replied that that description sounded like the far left platform. Makes me curious about discussions when your full-on far left son espouses that platform...those ideals. Have you learned to understand those views better? [And for the record, my children are even more liberal than my husband and me, and we’re very liberal; however, none of us is on the far left end of the continuum - comparing us to what I know of the extremes of liberalism. (Not that I agree that even they espouse the Culture of Nihilism that you identify as the full on far left world you know.)]
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Post by amom23 on Aug 18, 2018 12:06:00 GMT
Yes so far our kiddos share our views on things. We'll see if that changes over time. It is very interesting to hear my college age child's take on social issues like gay marriage, black lives matter, etc. I find DS to be completely at ease with certain social areas that a lot of crusty old white folks are upset about. I know my son's views have been shaped through his interactions with people who don't necessarily look just like him.
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Post by mikklynn on Aug 18, 2018 12:10:08 GMT
My kids are still young (in their teens), so my political beliefs definitely influence them. We'll see what happens when they get older. Also, for the record, I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal, and there's no way in Hell I would self-identify as Republican. The two are NOT mutually exclusive. I can stomach being considered a Democrat, although I usually correct people and let them know that I'm unaffiliated, and vote for both parties regularly. This describes DH, DD, and me. Our DS is the opposite. I really dislike the influence he has on our grandson. Most of my extended family is the same, with the exception of one brother. I told him I love him too much to discuss politics with him.
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Post by KikiPea on Aug 18, 2018 12:21:49 GMT
I don’t have children, but I can say that I am not in 💯 agreement with my parents. I’m more on the upper/middle end of their stance, but they are at the far/outside end of that stance.
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Post by peabay on Aug 18, 2018 12:27:00 GMT
All four of my girls are progressive liberal feminists. They teach me so much. My father is fiscally conservative, socially liberal and my mom was a card carrying, bra burning, radical lefty feminist of the 70s.
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Post by MsKnit on Aug 18, 2018 14:06:20 GMT
The Boy is further left than I am. Though, I my views are more toward the center. Though, I have been moving further left for a number of years. We don’t see eye to eye on everything. I do love our discussions. He gives me things to consider that I never thought of otherwise.
My husband has been Republican for years. He was slowly seeing things differently, though a few hard stance issues. At this point, he no longer identifies as Republican.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Aug 18, 2018 14:25:54 GMT
I don’t get the Seinfeld comment? But, yes my DD and I share the same overall political beliefs, however she’s further left than I am. Fundamentally we both believe people should be treated fairly and equally and should have their basic needs met before we go spending money on things like a military parade, for example. We do vary a bit on views regarding redistribution of wealth and health care. SO and his kids also share very similar beliefs.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 18, 2018 14:37:22 GMT
I am a moderate. My 18 year old DD just voted in the primary for the first time. She is a liberal and an atheist. My almost 17 year old son is a Christian and a conservative. He told me just the other day that he cannot wait until the 2020 election because he will be able to vote and he will support Trump. There are some lively political discussions in my house. Growing up my parents didn't discuss much of their political views at all. I do know based on her Facebook posts that my mom hates Trump and she did vote for Obama. My dad remains a mystery...
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Post by cmpeter on Aug 18, 2018 14:42:14 GMT
We share the same political beliefs. There are only two republicans in our family...dh’s mother and one of his BILs. We don’t talk politics when we are with them.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Aug 18, 2018 14:51:16 GMT
My boys are only ten, so they mimic my dh and me. We are independent but definitely left leaning. I hope my kids don’t stray too far away. I’m ok with them being more conservative but I would feel I failed as a parent if they became extremely conservative (alt-right type stuff).
My mom identified as a Republican and my dad as a Libertarian, so I grew up in a Reagan household. I thought I was conservative until about my second year of college. I’ve been centerist/left with some occasional libertarian ideas probably my entire life. Im pretty left by today’s standards but in reality, I’m pretty moderate, especially fiscally.
My dad just passed away. He never left the libertarian party, but he did not like Trump at all. My mom is pretty centerist/liberal now. Trump has solidified that stance. She definitely is a conservative “walkaway.”
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Post by alexa11 on Aug 18, 2018 14:56:19 GMT
I'm also fiscally conservative and socially liberal, but my 2 DDs are both way more conservative. My ex is very conservative. also. I'll say something sometimes and they'll both look at me with shock on their faces! We really don't discuss politics that much though.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Aug 18, 2018 14:57:14 GMT
As some may probably know, I have 6 children. As some may also know, I and my DH are fiscally conservative/socially liberal. (That 'in between' place that really needs its own party, but for now is titled Conservative/Republican.) One child is disabled, so he doesn't have a voice. Two are of the same mind that DH and I are - smaller government conservative and stay-out-of-my-life social liberal. One eschews all things government. Wants to be off the grid and live off the land as much as possible. (It's not as easy as one may think, but they are really trying.) One doesn't give a care at all. One is full-out far left. He puts earbuds in and turns up his TMBG to full voluum if we happen to be watching a conservative news source. If we aren't in the room, he just changes the channel to Seinfeld. And he doesn't even LIKE Seinfeld. It is quite the mix but I tell you, when we get together, we have the most fun. We don't shy away from political discussion at all (except for the one who doesn't give a care. He just goes to his room and plays guitar, lol) and we just...talk. Exchange our differing views - knowing full well we have little chance of changing anyone's mind. BUT, we do walk away understanding the other's viewpoint a little better each time. Even if we may vehemently disagree with it. I wish it could be like that all over the world. I’m wondering why you don’t consider yourself a Libertarian.
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Post by ntsf on Aug 18, 2018 15:23:52 GMT
my parents were socially liberal, fiscally conservative washingtonian republicans (dan Adams?).. but when bush 1 came in office, my dad left the republicans behind. two of my kids are more liberal than we are.. but my son is about where we are.. liberal.. but in this town, we are seen as moderate..
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Post by Pahina722 on Aug 18, 2018 15:34:26 GMT
DS is more liberal than DH and I are, but essentially we are all on the same page. I’m a registered Republican because otherwise I couldn’t vote in a primary in my district; DH is registered as an independent, and we think DS is too but it’s just not come up. All of us loathe Trump.
My parents both voted for Trump while holding their noses as, according to my dad, “I would vote for the Devil over Hillary.” However, at this point, they will be voting Democratic as long as the party doesn’t run Hillary again. My in-laws, on the other hand, have apparently drunk the Trump Kool-Aid. Since I’m convinced my MIL is a closet racist (despite our biracial child), it’s easy to understand why she thinks Trump is so great. She terrified of the Mexicans for absolutely no reason other than their skin tone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 15:57:04 GMT
My husband and I are both Conservatives. Probably closer to libertarian than Republican right now. All four of our children and their spouses are conservatives, and so far, all grandchildren of voting age are conservatives also. We don't talk politics though when we are together. We have other things to discuss.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 18, 2018 16:05:51 GMT
I'm independent, DH Republican, and one kid for each. My youngest wasn't to be Republican, but sees too much and can't vote that way. He works in a very Republican atmosphere and comes home and shares what he hears.
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Post by MaryMary on Aug 18, 2018 16:06:10 GMT
So far, my kids are pretty darn liberal. It is kind of wonderful.
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Post by annie on Aug 18, 2018 16:06:55 GMT
My parents are extremely Christian conservative republican. Dad loves Trump.
My spouse is a libertarian.
I am a Marxist.
Kids are split - liberal Democrats vs Marxists
Debates are fun. Makes for some interesting discussions. I love that my kids are intelligent enough to read and listen and learn for themselves.
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Post by tincin on Aug 18, 2018 16:34:19 GMT
Mine are more militantly left than me, sometimes I feel sorry for what I’ve unleashed on the world, and sometimes I am proud They have yet to learn tact and “there is a time and a place”. This.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 16:36:39 GMT
No and they don’t share religious views.
Best thing is to raise your children with an open mind and a good work ethic.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 18, 2018 16:49:05 GMT
My mother was batshit crazy and never identified as either party and could vote on a whim without much thought. There was never any consistency or logic to any of her stances. If she were still alive in 2016 she would have either joined the Bernie bandwagon or become a complete Trumpster, or dug out her matching beeline pantsuits and marched in Central Park, you could never know with her what would happen.
My dad was not registered in either party but he was a frequent Republican voter. He liked Reagan and Bush 1. He liked NJ Gov Tom Kean. But very so often he’d vote otherwise. He had a firm stance that the government should maintain a military and build infrastructure and spend his money wisely. Otherwise the government should mind their own business and keep their nose out of his business. He had already felt disenfranchised by the Republican Party before he died. He thought they had stuck thier hand too deeply into his wallet already at that point and weren’t fiscally responsible with their spending of HIS money. ( he always felt government spending was essentially OUR money and we should hold them accountable. He thought Bush 1 greatest failure was not ending Saddam then & there but he also thought Bush2 should never have started up where his father left off it wasn’t appropriate. He radically thought that politicians should have a set limit of money the could spend maximum. Period. Not a penny over that limit could be spent. He thought if they couldn’t spend more money they’d actually have to go talk to people.
I am a moderate. I used to lead slightly right, but I have migrated to the point where I’m not really leaning either way. I liked Reagan. But then again I liked Ross Perot too. I belive in fiscal responsibility in that the spending should be more transparent and we should know where our money goes. I am anti giant mega bills and would like it if Congress got back to voting on stuff more separately. There really is no party currently that matches my views at all. I’m always picking the lesser of the evils.
My son is a lot like me he is basically a center moderate. He just started voting and he spent his time researching the candidates and he votes thoughtfully & logically on the issues that matter to him at the time. He is in no way liberal but he doesn’t believe in anything the current Republican Party seems to stand for. He logically can not understand how the Republicans came up with Trump out of 17 candidates all of whom are more qualified for the job. On the other hand the NJ Democrats handed him Murphy as a candidate for Governor pand he thinks Murphy is a wacko and unqualified as well. He believes we should scrap our entire 2 party system in favor of something more like how New Zealand votes.
My DD is slightly left of center. She researches candidates and reads platforms like her brother but she also wants to like her candidate as well. She ads that slight emotional component to her voting. She started out as a complete independent moderate but then she has lived abroad twice and had the benefit of seeing how other places work. And the benefit of seeing how others see us. I think she would have migrated left slowly anyway but 2016 happened and she is squarely and securely a Democrat for the foreseable future. #stayingput
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 18, 2018 18:04:27 GMT
Ours, not old enough to vote but are very aware of the political climate —I would say they are also liberal as to what they themselves can process and understand at their ages.
They promote kindness, helping others, social programs, volunteerism, and just being kind to others. They really despise trump from their own observations (tv, reading, his ugliness, hatefulness and nastiness)
The only thing “political” that we stress and impress upon them is to fact check and gain knowledge that is truthful.
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