sharlag
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Post by sharlag on Aug 30, 2018 17:53:32 GMT
Not your kids or SO, but like siblings vs parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles?
It's not a daily or even weekly thing, but a couple of times a year I find out stuff I'm not supposed to tell others. And I know things are kept from me-- not stuff I NEED to know, but stuff that would make me a better relative-- more understanding, less likely to say something aoout which that the secret makes them sensitive.
Sometimes, it's not my news to share. I get that. Pregnancies, illnesses, job status, DUIs and/or incarcerations, for example. Not everyone needs to know everything.
As my parents get older and more frail, I find my sister and I hesitating to tell them things that are upsetting. But I know mom in particular wants to know things, for the reasons I mentioned above.
Sorry this is rambling.
ETA: a particular issue in my family has always been that my younger sister was estranged from our parents, and I was often put in the middle-- keeping secrets from them to help her... so maybe I'm more sensitive to this sort of behavior than most.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Aug 30, 2018 17:59:26 GMT
Yes in my husband’s family and it’s stupid shit. I refuse to play their games. And it’s not like they are secrets, everyone knows. We’re all just supposed the “pretend” it’s a secret. I love to drop those in a conversation and watch people freak out. Things like someone got married, it’s all over Facebook, pictures of the wedding and guests, but apparently it was a secret. 🤨
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PrettyInPeank
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Aug 30, 2018 18:12:26 GMT
No. Surprises, yes. But not secrets.
Edit: I'm talking about our nuclear family. Extended family? Well if they have secrets, they keep them well because we aren't aware of any.
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scrappington
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Post by scrappington on Aug 30, 2018 18:19:13 GMT
Yes in my husband’s family and it’s stupid shit. I refuse to play their games. And it’s not like they are secrets, everyone knows. We’re all just supposed the “pretend” it’s a secret. I love to drop those in a conversation and watch people freak out. Things like someone got married, it’s all over Facebook, pictures of the wedding and guests, but apparently it was a secret. 🤨 Ok really a wedding all over FB is not a secret
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The Birdhouse Lady
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Jun 30, 2014 17:15:19 GMT
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Aug 30, 2018 18:21:17 GMT
Recently my mil found out something that my sil had told us not to tell her because she would get upset.
I thought it was dumb but whatever. It wasn't really my story to tell in the first place. After my mil found out she asked me if I was ever going to tell her or we were going to keep in her in the dark forever.
I could have thrown my sil under the bus but I didn't.
I found out a couple days later my sil is pissed at me for not keeping up the secret.
My response to that is WHATEVER!!
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Post by lisacharlotte on Aug 30, 2018 18:22:12 GMT
Yes in my husband’s family and it’s stupid shit. I refuse to play their games. And it’s not like they are secrets, everyone knows. We’re all just supposed the “pretend” it’s a secret. I love to drop those in a conversation and watch people freak out. Things like someone got married, it’s all over Facebook, pictures of the wedding and guests, but apparently it was a secret. 🤨 Ok really a wedding all over FB is not a secret My point exactly! But typical of the person who somehow thought nobody would notice they got married and comment when it was all over Facebook, posted by the bride and all the family members present.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 18:25:56 GMT
We just don’t tell family anything. They don’t know abouthusband’s back surgery. We tell them fluff stuff.
I have stopped keeping the secrets and I have told them.
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Post by padresfan619 on Aug 30, 2018 18:26:42 GMT
Well, as a result of 23 & Me we have recently found out that a now deceased man in our family who we all thought was the epitome of the perfect family man in fact had a secret family. His wife is still alive but she is quite old, getting senile, and we aren’t sure if she knows or not. We’ve decided to not let her know because she either :
Already knows and there was some sort of arrangement and she never wanted her two kids to find out.
OR
She doesn’t know and this could potentially kill her, and while she isn’t my most favorite family member, she doesn’t need to know.
Before this we never had a big family secret.
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Post by scrapmaven on Aug 30, 2018 18:27:04 GMT
Nope. In my dh's family everyone is up front even when it's something embarrassing. I don't talk to my family other than my sister, so it's a non-issue.
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Post by mikklynn on Aug 30, 2018 18:27:22 GMT
My mother's family on her mother's side has held many secrets over the years. They are coming out now. Mom doesn't know that we all know her father committed suicide, as an example. As mom is in her 80's, we don't feel the need to tell her we know.
It's ironic, but my mom has some short term memory issues and is telling us things about her extended family. I don't know that it's a conscious decision, but more she forgot it's a secret!
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Post by mom on Aug 30, 2018 18:27:57 GMT
Yes in my husband’s family and it’s stupid shit. I refuse to play their games. And it’s not like they are secrets, everyone knows. We’re all just supposed the “pretend” it’s a secret. I love to drop those in a conversation and watch people freak out. Things like someone got married, it’s all over Facebook, pictures of the wedding and guests, but apparently it was a secret. 🤨 This is how my family is and it drives me nuts. There is always an elephant in the room that no one is talking about out loud. My dad is the worse though. He plays favorites. If something happens to my middle sister, then not a word is ever said. If something happens to me, the whole world (including facebook) knows.
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Post by papersilly on Aug 30, 2018 18:35:30 GMT
yes, we are built on a delicate Jenga of stupid secrets that we think we are protecting each other from. the secrets always come out at some point but the incubation time is what's stupid.
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Post by peano on Aug 30, 2018 19:58:42 GMT
When I was doing my genogram as part of my master's degree, I learned both sides of my family had their fair share of secrets. People believe that shoving these under the rug is the solution, but the shame keeps getting passed down to future generations. It's really dysfunctional.
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muggins
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Post by muggins on Aug 30, 2018 20:04:41 GMT
I’m kind of the opposite. My mom shares all kinds of crap about my family. I often have to stop her and tell her I just don’t care.
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desertgirl
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Post by desertgirl on Aug 30, 2018 20:20:48 GMT
This is a great thread.
My nephew is my sweetheart, but he thinks I don't know about his marijuana use and his gambling. I would still love him and not judge him.
And dh's family is secretive and feels guilt and shame about so many things, some large (water under the bridge to me) and some silly like how much they paid for an item or that they paid full price GOD FORBID AND SMITE ME DOWN!!
Lots of the shame is about money. I get so tired of long discussions about how cheap they all think they are and who is the cheapest. I've thought about making awards out of dd's old softball trophies and handing them out, but I'd be banished and I would not get to see my many awesome nieces hahaha.
And I've got a few secrets myself...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 20:28:23 GMT
It's not so much as secrets as it is they simply don't tell each other anything. DH, his dad and his brother don't really talk. Or rather they don't talk to dh. His dad will call once a month, drop some big news, and then be all "why are you so surprised?" Apparently his dad tells BIL more stuff, more often and then forgets he didn't tell DH too.
BIL does this too. He tells his dad something or his mom but won't tell DH. DH found out that BIL has a GF through his mom. Then BIL had dinner with their dad and neither one of them included DH. He found out from his mom. As a result, DH pretty much doesn't have a relationship with his dad these days.
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slkmommy
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Post by slkmommy on Aug 30, 2018 20:35:56 GMT
My sister is incredibly private. For instance we spend Christmas Eve as a family, but we have zero idea how she celebrates Christmas Day.
She rarely shares details of her life unless we will ultimately find it - like a new car, retirement, etc.
She had a taste of her own medicine years ago when her daughter in law hid an entire pregnancy from everyone and my sister found out the day her grandson was born. And they weren’t estranged , they actually saw a lot of each other
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azredhead
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Post by azredhead on Aug 30, 2018 20:39:34 GMT
Very much so unfortunatly. and some still lingering. It would take a book to explain it all. and yes I have secrets my self but not that affect anyone else.
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mallie
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Post by mallie on Aug 30, 2018 20:43:47 GMT
In my family, there is only one person who keeps secrets. She is an outlier in many ways from the family -- really seems to have nothing in common with anyone else in our family.
My dh's family thrives on secrets and drama.
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Post by workingclassdog on Aug 30, 2018 20:55:16 GMT
My dad's side of the family is horrible... no one tells anyone anything.. nothing. They all get mad and this and that and it is all drama..... My dad will tell me something and then proceed to tell me not to tell anyone in the family... For example, my dad lived by himself in an apartment in the midwest. His brother wanted him to move by him in another state to be close to each other. Dad moved. Bought house with help of his brother. Stayed there a couple of years and decided to move. He up and sold his house and everything else and not a word to his brother. Told me not to tell. WHY?? He tells his brother about 2 days before leaving. It's always silly stuff like that.... drives me nuts. Once his mother and him refused to talk to each other over a wedding day. Apparently when my parents got married his mom had the same date for her second marriage (my grandfather had passed away years before).. neither one would change the date.
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Post by stargazer on Aug 30, 2018 21:14:32 GMT
Not secrets so much but we rarely tell DH’s Dad & wife anything. This stems from their showing that they just don’t care, for example our ds told them on 3 separate occasions that he was going on expedition to Africa. A fairly big deal. Each time they claimed they didn’t know. The 3rd time I made it quite plain that this was the THIRD time he’d told them. There are no memory issues they just don’t care/aren’t interested. We shut down the info train mostly so we don’t get hurt that they don’t care. Also, whatever we do/say FIL has to make a negative comment on. For example dh might say that a colleague at work left & FIL immediately comes back with “is the company going bust?” It’s exhausting. Consequently we see very little of them & tell them virtually nothing. I guess it’s possible that they keep secrets from us but I wouldn’t know & at this stage none of us care much, sad to say.
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cakediva
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Post by cakediva on Aug 30, 2018 21:19:37 GMT
Ugh - for 20 years, everything with my ex-SIL and my brother was "secret"
Their wedding? My mom and I spent a whole afternoon decorating the hall with twinkle lights and tulle to make it nicer for them. Get there on the wedding day and it was all taken down as they had hired a decorator and kept it secret. The kitchen manager was sworn to secrecy and was so upset to see us working away all afternoon (my Dad was on the corporation board for the venue, so they were good friends). SO many things had to be secret - "I'm telling you this but you can't say anything" - all from SIL.
SO glad that part of life is freaking over. His new love is WONDERFUL and no secrets!!
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Post by ladytrisha on Aug 30, 2018 22:02:46 GMT
My hubby's family had way too many secrets - now that his mother has Alzheimer's and we emptied the house, we've found out all of them!
She always referred to his younger brother as the "condom baby" (seriously has not helped his self-esteem any being known as the mistake); HOWEVER, we found their marriage certificate and lo and behold, my hubby was already well on the way when they tied the knot. We waited until we were together with her sisters before we dropped that news flash - and we quickly realized they're in on more than we knew.
There's also a missing half-sister out there that was given up for adoption. We found a picture taken from the hospital room of the view in Hawaii from the room, her name, birthdate and vitals. Then we found the marriage announcement for that baby's bio father so at some point she had contact with him. I actually found him on FB, but there's no point in opening a can of worms and messing up someone's life. My hubby and his brother aren't sure they want to uncover everything now, especially considering that their Mom is too far gone to remember anything.
I watched her pretend and pose her whole life and I just think secrets are a soul sucker. None of these things were big deals now - no one in the family cared. But MIL cared what image was put forth all the time even if it was all faked.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 22:06:20 GMT
My husband and I never told his family we were moving until the moving truck showed up. We just left. Hid first pregnancy from them and was 8 1/2 months pregnant with second one before we told them
We still tell them nothing but fluff.
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PLurker
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Post by PLurker on Aug 30, 2018 22:12:50 GMT
makes me both honored and sad that people in (and not in) my family have been comfortable to come out to me before they are comfortable enough with immediate family to share that part of them.
It should not even be a thing.
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bklyngal62
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Post by bklyngal62 on Aug 30, 2018 22:24:13 GMT
My family doesn't keep secrets or none that I know of..lol My inlaws on the other hand seem to have everything a secret. Every time there is a conversation MIL or someone will say, " Don't say a word but....". Secrets are so bad that sometimes on get togethers people can be in the dinner table and MIL and my SIL or BIL will be whispering in the kitchen. I just got to the point to where I don't care and don't want to know what they have to say.
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Post by magoosangel on Aug 30, 2018 22:47:39 GMT
Yes both my in laws and own family have these secrets. It’s very horrible to hear about things from others in that way. I hate it.
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Post by threegirls on Aug 31, 2018 0:55:45 GMT
I don't know if my family keeps secrets. If it's a secret how would I know about it? Seriously though, I really don't think there are any.
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Post by yodutchess on Aug 31, 2018 1:01:30 GMT
Oh holy smokes. Put my family in the stupid shit club. It makes my head explode. And then what you do say gets misunderstood or just ignored.
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Post by peasapie on Aug 31, 2018 1:12:30 GMT
No secrets. Just a few fools who can’t get along with the rest.
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