sharlag
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Post by sharlag on Sept 7, 2018 20:04:52 GMT
upset. I've always been supportive, mourning in secret to friends.
In many ways (and really, in ALL of my outward behavior), I've embraced having a new daughter-- sharing clothes, talking about makeup. I ask about and encourage her relationships and therapy and whatnot.
But man, this surgery topic is rough. Again, I'm supportive when we discuss it. But I feel so sad to think of those body parts altered so drastically with a scalpel. I remember changing her diaper, and keeping her clean. I guess that sounds gross, but for some reason that's where my mind keeps going. Just the extreme.... radical.... cutting and whatnot.
She was so excited today when she told me that she's pretty much ready to talk to the medical center now.
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johnnysmom
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Post by johnnysmom on Sept 7, 2018 20:15:25 GMT
(((hugs)) I can totally understand that. The surgery has a finality to it.
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Post by mrssmith on Sept 7, 2018 20:19:17 GMT
Hugs. I am glad you are supportive to your daughter. I don't know what you are going through but I can imagine that it's very hard emotionally and totally understandable.
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Post by sues on Sept 7, 2018 20:26:37 GMT
I'm sorry. I know as a parent, we're supposed to switch gears and roll with the punches and be unconditionally supportive. It's the goal, it's what we want. But as much as 'it's not about you' - there is a component that is only on you, and there's no way around it. You had a baby and there were a thousand little ways you assumed your life would go, even if you didn't realize it. Then one day they sit you down and tell you something is different - they're gay, they're bi, they're trans - whatever. Your brain and your emotions can't just be restarted in a new mode. You have to wrap your brain around a new normal and a future that is different than you ever expected. And that happens even if you are totally supportive. It's just a fact. Your life was one thing, and now it's another. Neither one is bad- just different. You can't shrug off one like a sweater, to put on another. You are not undeserving of time to process the changes, to grieve the expected and embrace the new. You are not a robot, you're a mom. Maybe I'm not articulating this very well. I've gone through a version of this myself though, and I know people that have as well. No one was the same - we all came at it from a different point. We were determined to be supportive and helpful no matter what. But we all had to realize that you can't dismiss your own feelings. You have to work through them, acknowledge them and move on. The good news is- you are starting off in a positive place, moving toward an even better place. I think it will be extra challenging for you because of the surgery. I completely understand (well, almost) where you're coming from though- you have memories of an entire life that can't (and shouldn't) be changed. You have to find a way to reconcile the past with the future, and realize it's OK to be happy about the old memories and the new. It's going to be a process.
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Post by tara on Sept 7, 2018 20:27:06 GMT
Hugs. You just have to keep telling yourself this will make her happier and it’s not about you. you’re also probably worried about the surgery. It’s always scary when your child goes under the knife. I don’t know that much about it but I’m sure everything will turn out alright. You’re a great mom for being so supportive! I wish more parents were like you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 20:28:27 GMT
Hugs. I think the emotions you are going through are completely normal. For your daughter, the surgery will represent a new birth, for you a death of what you remembered... but the beauty is that she is STILL the same person inside. Have you considered joining a support group for families/parents of transgender children?
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Post by hockeymom4 on Sept 7, 2018 20:32:28 GMT
Sending supportive hugs... I haven’t followed this journey... how old is your DD??? I can totally imagine how difficult the surgery discussion would be, as supportive and understanding as you can be this really is a big/final/no going back decision. I think it is fair to tell your daughter that you know it is her choice but it may just take you a little more time to wrap your head around it. Good luck to you both
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georgiapea
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Post by georgiapea on Sept 7, 2018 20:36:58 GMT
It has to be tough. I can't imagine what you are going through. It's optional surgery, not a life saving measure. But to her it maybe is a measure of saving or creating the life she knows is her real self. I hope it goes smoothly.
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Post by Zee on Sept 7, 2018 20:39:03 GMT
I completely understand how you must feel. I haven't had that personal experience, but the thought of either of my children altering their genitalia sounds so awful. Painful and life-altering. I guess I'm only coming at it from a sexual perspective though, and if their natural genitals bother them that much I'd rather they be happy.
But it's so...final, and drastic. I've never heard anyone say what orgasms are like after recovery, or if they are difficult or impossible to achieve. Not that you want to think of your child that way but I guess that's my biggest problem with the whole idea. That and your child is young and there is no going back after this.
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The Birdhouse Lady
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Sept 7, 2018 20:40:28 GMT
That would be a hard topic to discuss and I admire your honesty. Hugs.
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sharlag
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Post by sharlag on Sept 7, 2018 20:48:38 GMT
Have you considered joining a support group for families/parents of transgender children? No, but I might look into it.
hockeymom4 , she's almost 24... 'came out' 3? years ago. On Facebook! (the stinker...)
I feel like I'm experiencing a death, while she is experiencing a new life.
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Post by SockMonkey on Sept 7, 2018 20:52:46 GMT
I think a support group for you would be SO helpful. Really, you are not alone in your feelings, and a support group will help you work through them so that you can support your daughter through this change.
As a teacher, I have worked with students who are transitioning. It is extremely important for them to feel supported by their families, and devastating when they are not. Please love her as hard as you can through this process. She needs you more than ever!
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Sept 7, 2018 20:56:24 GMT
I will validate your feelings. I think it's normal to feel that way. Allow yourself to process those feelings. Then come out the other side and rejoice with your dd for who she is.
Maybe this won't make sense, because my situation is totally different, but it's the only way I can explain my point. I have 2 sons with autism. With each diagnosis, I was broken-hearted. I was so depressed and devastated because all the plans I had for my sons were most likely not going to happen. College was a big one for me. I had to accept that they would not receive a Bachelor or Masters degree. It took my a while and some tears. But I finally accepted that the path I had planned for them, was not the path they were meant to follow. I felt so much better when I accepted that they were carving out their own path. Sure it's still scary at times, and I might get those "what if" moments, especially when their peers are going off to college. But they are happy and are living life on their terms. What more could I want?
So replace all that with your own dd. Grieve what you had envisioned for her. Then find happiness in the journey she is on, even when it isn't easy.
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Post by christine58 on Sept 7, 2018 21:03:00 GMT
Has she followed I am Jazz at all. She just had her bottom surgery and some of the episodes I found very informative.
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Gennifer
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Post by Gennifer on Sept 7, 2018 21:17:52 GMT
I think it would be unusual to *not* have any sadness. I think that’s understandable, and I’m sure she appreciates you being as supportive as you can.
I have a friend who’s transgender wife just underwent surgery in the last month or so. It’s a big step, but for someone who has always hated their gender (and sexual organs) it’s a huge, validating step.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 7, 2018 21:23:50 GMT
But just imagine how she will feel when it's done. She will be who she has always wanted to be. Perhaps she will feel whole and even happier. Isn't that all that matters?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 7, 2018 21:26:21 GMT
From experience—see if there is a group that YOU can go to (if you haven’t already).
The group I attend is so amazingly awesome and has been there to answer questions and share experiences and cry (grief, anger, worry).
It’s hard (And I’m only the auntie) even when you are completely onboard and supportive. It’s almost like a loss (the sadness) that you need your own way to “grieve” (for lack of a better word).
{{{{{hugs}}}}} to you!
ETA: just read that you haven’t gone to a group yet—-GO!!! I think you will find so much there.
If you need to chat, DM me.
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Post by iowgirl on Sept 7, 2018 21:28:40 GMT
I feel like I'm experiencing a death, while she is experiencing a new life. I could only imagine it would almost feel like losing a child in a way. Do you think it would be good for her, to know your honest feelings also. I can tell you are very supportive, but hiding your grief might not be the best thing either. That has to be a part of the transition also. You are going through a transition somewhat too. I think it might be insightful for her to know this part of your feelings, along with how much you support her. But I really have almost no first hand knowledge of dealing with this. I have a friend (not super close) that has a trans son. This is a small rural area, and he no longer lives here, but visits often. I am sure the tongues wag, as they do for everything in a small town, but it really opened my eyes to what trans people deal with. I am so thankful for those who have accepting family and friends, like this young man does. He is just such a happy person now.
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sharlag
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Post by sharlag on Sept 7, 2018 21:33:44 GMT
Do you think it would be good for her, to know your honest feelings also. I can tell you are very supportive, but hiding your grief might not be the best thing either. That has to be a part of the transition also. You are going through a transition somewhat too. I think it might be insightful for her to know this part of your feelings, along with how much you support her. I've told her that this particular step is hard for me, but I haven't really let her know how hard. She would take that on as a guilty burden, and I don't want that for her. I'm googling for support groups, but not seeing much in my area. Will keep looking.
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Post by scrapngranny on Sept 7, 2018 21:35:30 GMT
I think those are totally reasonable mom feelings. You are entitled to be a bit sad, but you are doing all the right things in being supportive to your daughter through this process. I believe down deep she would even understand those feelings, but be so grateful that she still has your support. You are being a great mom.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 7, 2018 21:37:52 GMT
I feel like I'm experiencing a death, while she is experiencing a new life. It is a huge loss. You are facing the loss of the child you raised. But you are now getting a brand new daughter and all the difficult raising part is already over. I agree to joining a support group. If the first one doesn't fit try another. I'm googling for support groups, but not seeing much in my area. Will keep looking. Check with the medical clinic she is going to. They should have all the contacts you need, and what she needs too.
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Post by Really Red on Sept 7, 2018 21:40:57 GMT
(((hugs))) Finding the new normal isn't easy, but I bet with how great you both are being, it will be better than you could imagine. Your daughter will be able to share herself with you in a way she probably couldn't have before.
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Trixie Bender
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Post by Trixie Bender on Sept 7, 2018 21:41:19 GMT
You know I'm not a hugger, but many hugs to you, Sharla.
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Post by wellway on Sept 7, 2018 21:42:01 GMT
Do you think it would be good for her, to know your honest feelings also. I can tell you are very supportive, but hiding your grief might not be the best thing either. That has to be a part of the transition also. You are going through a transition somewhat too. I think it might be insightful for her to know this part of your feelings, along with how much you support her. I've told her that this particular step is hard for me, but I haven't really let her know how hard. She would take that on as a guilty burden, and I don't want that for her. I'm googling for support groups, but not seeing much in my area. Will keep looking. Any chance the hospital would have information on support groups for family members? (Hugs)
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Post by paget on Sept 7, 2018 21:42:13 GMT
Sharla, I just sent you a peamail.
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Post by Jennifer C on Sept 7, 2018 21:50:37 GMT
Have you considered joining a support group for families/parents of transgender children? No, but I might look into it.
hockeymom4 , she's almost 24... 'came out' 3? years ago. On Facebook! (the stinker...)
I feel like I'm experiencing a death, while she is experiencing a new life.
My dh's young cousin is going through this. His Aunt was told early on that she will be going through the steps of grieving, not for her son becoming a daughter, but because she is losing a son. The dreams and hopes that you have for your child are the same, yet different. DH's Aunt and Uncle are divided in this and she has found a wonderful support group that helps her in so many ways. I hope you find one also. Until then, I pray for you and hope that you find peace and comfort. And a great friend who can offer a shoulder to you. Jennifer
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sharlag
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Post by sharlag on Sept 7, 2018 21:55:35 GMT
I have good friends (and family) who are of great support. I found PFLAG online, and they appear to be meeting at the hospital.
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sharlag
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Post by sharlag on Sept 7, 2018 21:59:08 GMT
You know I'm not a hugger, but many hugs to you, Sharla. [/
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Post by mom on Sept 7, 2018 22:04:49 GMT
oh sharlag . You are grieving 'what was'. It doesn't mean you aren't accepting her or don't support her. It means you are grieving the daughter you had. It's ok and completely expected IMHO. What she is planning is so 'final' and from what I know, irreversible. Of course you are worried and concerned! I agree with the others - look for a support group. I would think an in-person group would be best but if all you can find is online, well thats ok too. Hugs. We are here for you!
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Post by dewryce on Sept 7, 2018 22:05:58 GMT
No, but I might look into it.
hockeymom4 , she's almost 24... 'came out' 3? years ago. On Facebook! (the stinker...)
I feel like I'm experiencing a death, while she is experiencing a new life.
My dh's young cousin is going through this. His Aunt was told early on that she will be going through the steps of grieving, not for her son becoming a daughter, but because she is losing a son. The dreams and hopes that you have for your child are the same, yet different. DH's Aunt and Uncle are divided in this and she has found a wonderful support group that helps her in so many ways. I hope you find one also. Until then, I pray for you and hope that you find peace and comfort. And a great friend who can offer a shoulder to you. Jennifer This is what I was thinking, you are going through a loss of sorts. You seem so amazingly supportive and I know you are happy for your daughter, but it's okay to grieve the loss of the son you watched grow up. She is lucky to have you, and you should be proud of the strong child you raised. To have the confidence to transition, knowing the obstacles that will be in her way...well, that's incredibly inspiring and you are the one who raised her and helped her grow that confidence. Seriously, great job mom. (((Hugs)))
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