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Post by shevy on Sept 12, 2018 19:18:49 GMT
Did you stay because you hoped to get through it? Because it was your first one and you could handle it? You didn't want to leave your home to the care of others? You had no place to go?
I've got a relative who moved to SC a year ago. He and his family life 10 miles from the ocean, just south of Mytrle Beach. They have a 'hurricane strong' home apparently? He was down there last fall and stayed through Irma last year. Said it was bad when describing, but the house held up well.
They are staying for Florance, even though they're under mandatory evacuation. All week long, his wife has been posting phones of how crazy it is for hurricane prep down there. Then posting phones of herself tanning in the yard.
Are people ever really forced out of an area when one hits? What happens if you're under evacuation and don't leave? My mind is having a hard time figuring this out.
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Post by scrappysurfer on Sept 12, 2018 19:27:45 GMT
They can't force you out. But you have to accept that if you do find yourself in an emergency and need to call for help, that help may not come immediately.
I'm torn about evacuations because i understand people not wanting to leave their homes at risk of looting or not having anywhere they feel safe to go, but when people stay and then find themselves needing help, they put the rescue people in danger.
In this situation, I think Myrtle Beach is going to take an almost direct hit and then the storm.is going to stall over the area so flooding will be a huge issue. Personally if I were them I would leave.
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Post by FLA SummerBaby on Sept 12, 2018 19:32:51 GMT
I am a Florida native and have lived here all but 1 year of my life. As someone who has both prepared for storms and evacuated from them, the best advice I have is to follow the instructions given by local authorities. Typically we have stayed because the conditions were such that we and our home could sustain staying at our home. "Hunkering down and being prepared". However, we have never stayed in our house when it was a mandatory evacuation. There is no sense in that. So we do the standard preps every time we get a threat of a hurricane -- gas up the cars, charge electronic devices, get cash out of the bank, gather your important documents, stock up on water, food, batteries, medicine, personal goods, etc. Last year was probably the worst storm prep for Irma -- we ended up getting both our house and my elderly mom's house ready too but then had to evacuate. Even though it was not mandatory it was strongly urged and due to the flooding issues for my house and the threat of severe damage from trees falling at her house --we left and had to stay in 3 different towns over 4 consecutive nights as we had difficulty tracking the storm when it continually was changing path. Hurricane preparation and preparedness isn't always a fun task to handle but I am always so glad that we have had what we needed and stayed safe.
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Post by smartypants71 on Sept 12, 2018 19:37:19 GMT
As a Gulf coast native, I've been through several hurricanes. I am far enough inland that I am not in a mandatory evacuation zone. I've ridden out every hurricane that has ever hit. The only one I wish I had evacuated for was Ike. Since that one was more of a wind threat than a flooding threat, it was worse for me since my neighborhood rarely floods. We didn't have power for 3 weeks after Ike and that was the worst!
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Post by Zee on Sept 12, 2018 19:37:35 GMT
I've never lived where hurricanes are a huge threat to life or property, though I was in Philly during Sandy and that was one intense storm. I've lived through gale-force Iowa storms but I've never looked out the window and seen pieces of trees blowing down the street for hours at a stretch. We were never in real danger but there was lots of tree and wind damage.
I've seen enough pictures of people trapped on rooftops that I think I would just go ahead and evacuate if possible. Because I am a nurse, I would probably actually be at the hospital while my family evacuated. If I was in a position where I could not take my cats, there's no way I'd go anywhere, foolish as that sounds. I could never in a million years leave my kitties to try and fend for themselves. We die together!
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Post by Nink on Sept 12, 2018 19:54:31 GMT
I’ve never lived where hurricanes are, but I did live in wildfire country and evacuated a time or two. It’s my understanding that under a mandatory evacuation, they cannot force you to go, but if you end up needing any kind of help or emergency services, you’re shit outta luck. So you better be prepared to ride it out or die.
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Post by Florida Cindy on Sept 12, 2018 20:06:27 GMT
Did you stay because you hoped to get through it? Because it was your first one and you could handle it? You didn't want to leave your home to the care of others? You had no place to go?
I've got a relative who moved to SC a year ago. He and his family life 10 miles from the ocean, just south of Mytrle Beach. They have a 'hurricane strong' home apparently? He was down there last fall and stayed through Irma last year. Said it was bad when describing, but the house held up well.
They are staying for Florance, even though they're under mandatory evacuation. All week long, his wife has been posting phones of how crazy it is for hurricane prep down there. Then posting phones of herself tanning in the yard.
Are people ever really forced out of an area when one hits? What happens if you're under evacuation and don't leave? My mind is having a hard time figuring this out. Where we live, our house is rated for a CAT 5 hurricane. Also we are on a main power supply grid for EMS Fire Rescue so our electricity is quickly restored. If your relative is in an evacuation zone then it's sensible to evacuate. However people should know the strength of their homes, flood planes, and every variable when considering evacuating. People are not forced out of their home. However when the storm winds reach a certain mile per hour, emergency services are not available. We live 6 miles from the beach. But, we are not in a flood plane and live CAT5 hurricane proof house. I understand your worry. You have received a mixed messages with photos that contradict each other. It seems like your relative may be prepared if his wife is laying out in the sun. All you can do is send positive thoughts.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 12, 2018 20:22:12 GMT
Did you stay because you hoped to get through it? Because it was your first one and you could handle it? You didn't want to leave your home to the care of others? You had no place to go?
I've got a relative who moved to SC a year ago. He and his family life 10 miles from the ocean, just south of Mytrle Beach. They have a 'hurricane strong' home apparently? He was down there last fall and stayed through Irma last year. Said it was bad when describing, but the house held up well.
They are staying for Florance, even though they're under mandatory evacuation. All week long, his wife has been posting phones of how crazy it is for hurricane prep down there. Then posting phones of herself tanning in the yard.
Are people ever really forced out of an area when one hits? What happens if you're under evacuation and don't leave? My mind is having a hard time figuring this out. 1) Stayed because I knew I was probably safe. Check 2) Stayed because my first one was a bit unreal to me, being still fairly new to the area. Check. 3) Stayed because of "Last out, first back" job (dh). Check Hurricane prep is hectic. A lot of people party during that time as well. Some take to the water as it gets a bit rowdy. Some tan. <shrug> No, you are not forced out. My experience as a straggler --- Police cars drove up and down the streets using bullhorns telling everyone to evacuate. Banners saying leave or die scrolled across the bottom of the TV screen. Media spread the message to write your social security number on your arm in Sharpie so your body could be identified. Storm planes circled my home and C-5's sat on the tarmac at the local airport. The wind indicator on the top of my house began pointing from the NE. Birds flocked ahead of the storm. There can be an unnatural calm or relentless rain. The air may be still or the wind may be brisk. The nearer the storm, the more everything changes. What happens is you will live or you will die. When you remain behind, you throw some very big dice.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Sept 12, 2018 20:24:04 GMT
As a Gulf coast native, I've been through several hurricanes. I am far enough inland that I am not in a mandatory evacuation zone. I've ridden out every hurricane that has ever hit. The only one I wish I had evacuated for was Ike. Since that one was more of a wind threat than a flooding threat, it was worse for me since my neighborhood rarely floods. We didn't have power for 3 weeks after Ike and that was the worst! I've been through a few hurricanes and quite a few tropical storms over the years. Ike is the one that made me say I'll probably leave next time for anything over a Cat. 1. I rode that one out alone with a cat and a drugged up dog. My house made noises I didn't know were even possible! We lost power about 6 hours before the first winds even hit, and it was out for 2 weeks. The reason I didn't leave for Ike was that we were not in a mandatory evacuation zone. Also, Ike wasn't initially predicted to hit Galveston/Houston directly. It was initially projected to hit over towards Corpus and go up through the Hill Country. It’s my understanding that under a mandatory evacuation, they cannot force you to go, but if you end up needing any kind of help or emergency services, you’re shit outta luck. So you better be prepared to ride it out or die. The local authorities will announce at a certain point in the build up to landfall that any further calls will not be answered. So if they change their minds or need help they are indeed "shit outta luck" until the storm passes. They will even go so far as to recommend that those staying write their names on their body with permanent marker to aid in identification should they not make it. Now if that doesn't change someone's mind about staying, I'm pretty sure nothing will.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 12, 2018 20:41:06 GMT
Where we live, our house is rated for a CAT 5 hurricane. Also we are on a main power supply grid for EMS Fire Rescue so our electricity is quickly restored. If your relative is in an evacuation zone then it's sensible to evacuate. However people should know the strength of their homes, flood planes, and every variable when considering evacuating. People are not forced out of their home. However when the storm winds reach a certain mile per hour, emergency services are not available. We live 6 miles from the beach. But, we are not in a flood plane and live CAT5 hurricane proof house. I understand your worry. You have received a mixed messages with photos that contradict each other. It seems like your relative may be prepared if his wife is laying out in the sun. All you can do is send positive thoughts. I have to reiterate that there are a thousand variables to be considered by anyone who chooses to remain behind. Basically, you weigh the probability of risk for a great many different things and add them all up. When the balance tips and the risk to life becomes too great, that's when you go. A lot does depend on occupation. The easier it is to leave your job, the easier it is to evacuate sooner. Those who are in "Last out, First back" jobs by necessity deal with more risk and may be more finely tuned to things that other people are not.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Sept 12, 2018 20:42:08 GMT
I grew up on the Gulf Coast. We always made judgement calls growing up, and evacuating for under a cat 3 was not considered. Evacuating sounds really easy, but it isn't. By the time you've boarded up the house, gotten the boats moved around to the back bay, etc., there isn't a lot of time. Until recent years, you had to find a hotel or family to take pets. Then, you may not be allowed back home immediately, while your house could have flooded or had damage that will get worse with time.
That said, we went into it knowing that they were on their own for at least 3 days. We were prepared for no help, no food, no drive-able streets. The mantra growing up was, "Well, the house stood through Camille." And no one could imagine anything worse than Camille. Katrina was worse. Way worse. And it was complicated because it didn't look like it was as bad of a storm as it was until just before it hit - when it was too late to get out.
I really get the temptation to stay, but having lived through Katrina from 150 miles north of the Gulf then not being able to contact my family members on the Gulf for days (in the end, all of our family members were fine, but one house was lost, one apartment uninhabitable, one house flooded 1-2', one house had 5' of water, and one house had minimal damage), I would tell anyone with Florence headed in their direction to GET OUT. That storm is HUGE, and it is hard to fight a storm surge.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 12, 2018 20:47:38 GMT
I grew up on the Gulf Coast. We always made judgement calls growing up, and evacuating for under a cat 3 was not considered. Yes! Evacuation and return can be truly miserable. The last 13 years have us worn out, though.
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Post by mimi3566 on Sept 12, 2018 20:47:56 GMT
I live in Orlando, FL so far enough inland and am not in a flood zone so we've ridden out all of the hurricane's that have come through with the exception of Irma, last year. The only reason I evacuated because my daughter was 9 months pregnant and feared going into labor either during the storm or shortly thereafter with the possibility of no power. She is a home birther and her midwives instructed her to pick up her medical documents in case she went into labor she would have to go the hospital because they would not be coming to her home, which she totally understood. She feared being without power in Orlando with 4 kids and a dog and who knew how long the power would be out.
Her solution was to evacuate to the nearest city she could find rooms for herself and her husband and 3 other children and dog and her dad and I which was Nashville, TN.
She begged me to go with for support and assistance caring for her other children and dog should she go into labor.
Fortunately she did not and we made it back to Orlando with time to spare....she successfully gave birth at home to baby # 4. And she never lost power....neither did we at our house per our neighbors.
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Post by LeaP on Sept 12, 2018 20:53:32 GMT
I was in Hurricane Andrew. I stayed because I wasn't in an evacuation area. It was terrifying. The wind howled through the night. A piece of a roof made a hole in the wall. Then the eye came and the radio announcer said not to go outside, but most people did anyway. There wasn't a lick of wind. Then the second half started with the wind in the other direction causing even more damage. When it was all over I couldn't find my way in the neighborhood because all the landmarks were gone. Had I know what it was going to be like I would have evacuated.
In the case of Florence, I hope the people who stay are OK, but I hope they change their minds in time to evacuate. 100+ mile per hour winds are not to be trifled with.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 12, 2018 21:01:19 GMT
I was in Hurricane Andrew. I stayed because I wasn't in an evacuation area. It was terrifying. The wind howled through the night. A piece of a roof made a hole in the wall. Then the eye came and the radio announcer said not to go outside, but most people did anyway. There wasn't a lick of wind. Then the second half started with the wind in the other direction causing even more damage. When it was all over I couldn't find my way in the neighborhood because all the landmarks were gone. Had I know what it was going to be like I would have evacuated. In the case of Florence, I hope the people who stay are OK, but I hope they change their minds in time to evacuate. 100+ mile per hour winds are not to be trifled with. Andrew was another that was at one point supposed to hit us. As it was, my BIL was about to buy a house in Homestead. My MIL sent him a check to use in his down-payment... and that check was lost in the mail during Andrew. What a fustercluck of devastation that left behind! <The eye is really something special. I totally get it.>
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Post by smartypants71 on Sept 12, 2018 21:02:24 GMT
Ike is the one that made me say I'll probably leave next time for anything over a Cat. 1. I just realized Ike hit 10 years ago tomorrow. It doesn't seem like it's been that long.
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Post by Patter on Sept 12, 2018 21:24:39 GMT
They just interviewed a first responder in Wilmington on the news. He said that if the winds are 50 mph, they do not respond. People are on their own. The storm surge is going to be higher than some houses. This is not something you want to ignore especially in the mandatory evacuation areas. I pray they will leave. Doesn't matter how awesome your house is if it's under water.
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Post by shevy on Sept 12, 2018 22:16:20 GMT
Thank you for the stories and information. It helps me understand the thought processes that go on. I’m in the middle of the Midwest, in Minnesota. We get storms, rain/lightening, some tornadoes and straight line winds. But we can’t really prepare for those storms much. It’s not a week or so of prep, it’s a couple hours.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 12, 2018 22:20:23 GMT
Thank you for the stories and information. It helps me understand the thought processes that go on. I’m in the middle of the Midwest, in Minnesota. We get storms, rain/lightening, some tornadoes and straight line winds. But we can’t really prepare for those storms much. It’s not a week or so of prep, it’s a couple hours. I lived in Ft Worth for a while, and the storms there sweeping down from the Midwest are far, far different indeed.
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Post by tracyarts on Sept 12, 2018 22:26:26 GMT
Hurricane Alicia: I was a pre-teen and my mom refused to evacuate and browbeat my dad when he wanted to take me to my grandparents house. We were inland, away from flooding, if we lost power and water, oh well, we would suck it up and deal. So we did. For two weeks.
Hurricane Ike: DH and I both worked for an independent insurance claims appraisal company. We were going to be on the job immediately after the storm. So we evacuated just another town further inland, just outside of the evacuation zone and stayed with family. No power for 10 or 12 days. But we were out on the job from 6 am to 8 PM and barely noticed.
Hurricane Harvey: Truly caught us off guard. Rain was so much worse than initially expected, and we lived on supposedly high ground. We didn't flood, but were surrounded by flooding.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 12, 2018 22:42:20 GMT
My mind is having a hard time figuring this out. Media spread the message to write your social security number on your arm in Sharpie so your body could be identified. . seriously, my heart skipped a beat when i read that. write...your...social...security...number..on...your...arm. it doesn't get any more clear than that.
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Post by used2scrap on Sept 12, 2018 22:46:54 GMT
Media spread the message to write your social security number on your arm in Sharpie so your body could be identified. . seriously, my heart skipped a beat when i read that. write...your...social...security...number..on...your...arm. it doesn't get any more clear than that. We had a mandatory evacuation issued yesterday, we left last night. This morning the county reissued the evacuation with this message: This storm could be one of the most destructive hurricanes in 64 years If you remain in the area you will be risking serious injury or death please evacuate now
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Post by yivit on Sept 12, 2018 22:48:25 GMT
Media spread the message to write your social security number on your arm in Sharpie so your body could be identified. . seriously, my heart skipped a beat when i read that. write...your...social...security...number..on...your...arm. it doesn't get any more clear than that. I remember some of the emergency operations and local first responder personnel stating that when Ike was coming at us. Friends of friends decided they were just blowing smoke and had a hurricane party at their place on the bay. They made some frantic calls during the worst of the storm. The house was destroyed and I don't think they ever found any of the people.
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Post by georgiapea on Sept 12, 2018 23:56:26 GMT
I went through 2 as a teen in Tarpon Springs and nobody that I knew of left. We watched the water come within a block of our house.
With Irma last year we left and went to our house in ALabama. There was no damage so we felt foolish. This year we will wait for any mandatory evacuation order.
We have begun moving plants to sheltered areas, many along the tree line to protect them from wind.
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 13, 2018 0:07:40 GMT
seriously, my heart skipped a beat when i read that. write...your...social...security...number..on...your...arm. it doesn't get any more clear than that. I remember some of the emergency operations and local first responder personnel stating that when Ike was coming at us. Friends of friends decided they were just blowing smoke and had a hurricane party at their place on the bay. They made some frantic calls during the worst of the storm. The house was destroyed and I don't think they ever found any of the people. People were being found for the next couple of years. ETA - I don't know about that particular group. Those who didn't get out early on Galveston Island or the Bolivar Peninsula didn't get out. Some survived. Others, not so lucky.
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Post by Pahina722 on Sept 13, 2018 0:35:45 GMT
Because I lived in a house built specifically to withstand hurricanes, I stayed during Erin, which was only a Cat 1. However, living through having a massive oak tree land on my house as the eye wall went over was so traumatic that I evacuated 2 months later when Opal came through—and we never lost power during it. Since then, we’ve stuck it out during Cat 1 and 2 but leave for everything higher.
It isn’t so much the hurricane itself that is horrible for me (as I live 10 miles from a beach on the highest ground in the county) as it is the misery of being stuck with no power and hellacious heat and humidity for 2 to 3 weeks afterward. On the other hand, evacuating can mean that I return to a house with extra water damage and freezers full of rotting food that I could have avoided if I stayed. If, though, I was in a mandatory evacuation zone, I’d be gone in a heartbeat. I lost coworkers who refused to leave their houses and drowned when the storm surge flooded their homes.
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Post by yivit on Sept 13, 2018 0:36:16 GMT
I was born and raised on the Texas Gulf Coast, and still live here. I've literally been through every storm that's hit the upper Texas coast since Carla (57 years ago yesterday - my mom was pregnant with me at the time). The scariest one for me (until Harvey) was actually TS Allison in 2001 because I wasn't home. I was in DFW for work that week and heading home that Friday. I got stranded in Conroe when they shut down I-45 and spent a couple of days there before coming home to help rip out our house that had gotten 4-6" in it. DH and the kids were home during it. DH went to bed around midnight with water halfway up the yard (not unusual given the rain for the last 2 or 3 days prior) and woke up around 4 to go to the bathroom and stepped into squishy carpet. Ike runs a close second (I guess now third) because our house was right in the eyewall as it came in (my dad, uncle and grandma - about a mile away from me - were in the eye), and we lost the turbine vent off the roof and a tree between us and the neighbors came down with its limbs resting on both roofs.
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Post by pretzels on Sept 13, 2018 0:51:39 GMT
I've been through three recently -- Rita, Ike and Harvey. With Rita, we evacuated and it was a NIGHTMARE. With Ike, we waited to evacuate until after the storm had passed. With Harvey, we stayed and while it sucked BIG TIME -- no power for almost four weeks with a boss who expected me to sit in my car for hours and charge my phone -- I'm glad we stayed.
Our house got about 4 inches of water in it after Harvey. If we had left, we wouldn't have been able to get back until four or five days later, which would have created a situation where mold would have taken over our house. Because we were there, we were able to dry the house out and had very little damage. A lot of families in our neighborhood still aren't in their homes, and they didn't get any more water in their homes than we did. It just sat for a few days.
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Post by auntkelly on Sept 13, 2018 1:20:31 GMT
I was living on The Woodlands, TX during hurricane Ike, which is just North of Houston. We were told to hunker down rather than evacuate, so that the roads would be clear for those under mandatory evacuation orders. It was my first hurricane, and I never want to experience another one.
Even though we were pretty far inland, our community experienced downed trees, loss of power and some flooding. The storm spawned several tornados which caused quite a bit of damage. I just remember the sound of the acorns hurling against our windows. It sounded like someone was right outside throwing rocks against our windows as hard as they could. I still can't believe none of our windows broke. We were going to board our windows, but our neighbors told us we were too far inland to worry about it.
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Post by ilikepink on Sept 13, 2018 5:39:49 GMT
I’m originally from NJ and went through many storms that were no big deal. In 1998 we were in myrtle beach on vacation when Bonnie came through We we’re going to stay, but there was a mandatory evacuation in place. We went to Hilton head and it took us about 17 hours. It’s a four hour ride.
When I first moved to Savannah, NJ had Irene. Sandy and another one and I had nothing. Until Matthew. Even though there was a mandatory evacuation, I stayed. Rather scary. Dark, loud, and windy. About five days with no power after. It hit as a 2 (I think). Last year for Irma, I had to stay for work (emergency services). We won’t send anyone after the wind hits 39 mph. That storm wasn’t as bad, but the beach area had a lot of damaging flooding.
During Matthew, a tree fell on a house, killing the man who stayed after sending his family out. Life insurance did not pay, because there was a mandatory evacuation order
There’s no one answer. Leaving is safer, but sometimes harder to get back.
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