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Post by peano on Sept 30, 2018 3:23:27 GMT
DS attends the same college as a friend (we'll call her J) from HS. We drove up Friday to pick him and her up to bring them home so they could go to their former high school's marching band home show. Before we asked DS to ask J if she wanted a ride home, we were always planning to do both legs of the 3.5 hour trip back to his school.
We heard through DS that J's father had recently had rotator cuff surgery and wasn't supposed to drive, so we told DS to tell J that we were happy to drive them back to school on Sunday, and that he could return the favor at some point once he had recuperated. We have never met J's father nor communicated with him directly.
Tonight DS told us that J's father had rented a car for J to drive DS and her back to school, and then drop it off after hours, so the rental car agency couldn't see her. This is because he rented it in his name, not hers. Apparently this was to avoid the hefty surcharge you pay for drivers under age 25.
Nothing about the car rental impacts DS; it's all on J (and her father) if something happens to the car while she's driving it. I just feel uneasy about the situation. I don't know that there's anything I can do about anything--the situation just feels weird and awkward to me. Would you do anything/say anything to J/her father?
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Post by PaperAngel on Sept 30, 2018 3:31:02 GMT
I suggest your son remind her that you are transporting him from & to school this weekend & she is welcomed to join you. If she prefers to drive herself back in a car rented by her dad, she can decline your invitation. However, your son will return with you as originally planned.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 4:56:09 GMT
What PaperAngel said, plus, the car rental places around here have outdoor security cameras so they will still see it is a girl returning the car and not the man that rented it.
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Post by anniefb on Sept 30, 2018 5:54:17 GMT
I agree with PaperAngel. I would feel uneasy as well.
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Post by PaperAngel on Sept 30, 2018 6:00:37 GMT
What PaperAngel said, plus, the car rental places around here have outdoor security cameras so they will still see it is a girl returning the car and not the man that rented it. Exactly. It's a terrible idea in which your son can easily avoid participating (& simultaneously provide his classmate with return transportation, so she can too!). Best wishes...
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Post by welshjenni on Sept 30, 2018 6:45:28 GMT
I imagine that if they had an accident when she was driving the deception would come to light and presumably any insurance would be invalidated.
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Post by Jockscrap on Sept 30, 2018 6:49:41 GMT
Yikes - silly man. Presumably defrauding the rental company negates any insurance in the event of an accident. As others have said, proceed as planned with your DS. She can take up your offer or leave it. What a crazy example of stupidness and dishonesty for J’s father to model to his daughter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 8:40:16 GMT
I would tell your son that you will be taking him back come what may and the friend is welcome to come with you if she wants to. No way would I agree to, or let my child be complicit in what amounts to fraud in the hiring of that rental car.
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Post by mlynn on Sept 30, 2018 11:26:32 GMT
I have not rented a car for a long time, but when I have I was told that if someone else is driving it, the vehicle is considered "stolen". I certainly would not want my child mixed up in an auto theft situation if they got pulled over or had an accident.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 30, 2018 11:36:04 GMT
I suggest your son remind her that you are transporting him from & to school this weekend & she is welcomed to join you. If she prefers to drive herself back in a car rented by her dad, she can decline your invitation. However, your son will return with you as originally planned. I imagine that if they had an accident when she was driving the deception would come to light and presumably any insurance would be invalidated. This! Dad can cancel the car or not, but your DS should not be in it.
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Post by mikklynn on Sept 30, 2018 11:55:35 GMT
Yeah, that is a big no for me, too.
If someone other than your spouse is going to drive a rental car, you must put them on the rental agreement. There is an extra charge for that.
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Post by librarylady on Sept 30, 2018 12:46:00 GMT
How could they do this without your son's DL? When I have rented a car, we had to provide DL of whoever will be driving it-and rental company takes copy of DL.
I would not participate in fraud with the company....to many "what ifs" involved.
Stick to your plan.
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Post by disneypal on Sept 30, 2018 12:48:00 GMT
I suggest your son remind her that you are transporting him from & to school this weekend & she is welcomed to join you. If she prefers to drive herself back in a car rented by her dad, she can decline your invitation. However, your son will return with you as originally planned. This is perfect
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Post by scrappyesq on Sept 30, 2018 13:24:27 GMT
If the dad feels that strongly about his daughter having a rental car he should suck it up and pay the fee. If he can't afford it that's one thing. He should have no issue with her riding with you. If he's just trying to cheap out the rental company that is not a good look.
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Post by gailoh on Sept 30, 2018 13:48:22 GMT
I suggest your son remind her that you are transporting him from & to school this weekend & she is welcomed to join you. If she prefers to drive herself back in a car rented by her dad, she can decline your invitation. However, your son will return with you as originally planned. This is perfect I agree with all the others...keep it the way you stated...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 13:58:23 GMT
How could they do this without your son's DL?When I have rented a car, we had to provide DL of whoever will be driving it-and rental company takes copy of DL. I would not participate in fraud with the company....to many "what ifs" involved. Stick to your plan. OP's son isn't driving it or hiring it. He would only be a passenger. It's his friend's dad that is hiring it in his own name but letting his daughter drive it.
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Post by Kerri W on Sept 30, 2018 14:08:00 GMT
What I would do is mind my own business and continue with my plan to take DS back to school myself. No, I would not say anything to the girl or her father. It's not my job to tell another adult they're breaking the rules.
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Post by littlemama on Sept 30, 2018 14:14:18 GMT
So offered to take both kids back with no cost to the other family, just an expectation that the favor would be returned at an undetermined time in the future, and the girl's dad instead opted to spend money on a rental and break the rules of the rental company in the process. That is pretty odd. Basically, he doesnt want to be bothered with driving your son at a later date. Anyway, you already had plans to drive your ds back, so do that.
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Post by myshelly on Sept 30, 2018 15:02:20 GMT
You’re micromanaging this a lot for two people who are adults in college.
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Post by mom on Sept 30, 2018 15:15:47 GMT
What I would do is mind my own business and continue with my plan to take DS back to school myself. No, I would not say anything to the girl or her father. It's not my job to tell another adult they're breaking the rules. I agree with this. Stay in your own lane, per say, and take DS home like you always intended to.
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Post by myshelly on Sept 30, 2018 15:18:28 GMT
What I would do is mind my own business and continue with my plan to take DS back to school myself. No, I would not say anything to the girl or her father. It's not my job to tell another adult they're breaking the rules. I agree with this. Stay in your own lane, per say, and take DS home like you always intended to. I do not think that word means what you think it means...or is spelled how you think it’s spelled...
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Post by anniebygaslight on Sept 30, 2018 15:38:16 GMT
Withdraw your offer, and take your own son home.
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Post by mom on Sept 30, 2018 18:09:46 GMT
I agree with this. Stay in your own lane, per say, and take DS home like you always intended to. I do not think that word means what you think it means...or is spelled how you think it’s spelled... Nope. It does mean what I think it means, and yes, I spelled it correctly. www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stay%20in%20your%20lane
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Post by myshelly on Sept 30, 2018 18:15:47 GMT
Oh sweetie. I’m talking about “per say.“ Do you also use “walla”?
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Post by goldenblind221 on Sept 30, 2018 18:18:13 GMT
"and that he could return the favor at some point once he had recuperated."
Maybe this statement is the reason he opted to have his kid drive herself back. Speaking for myself, I would not like it for anyone to feel that I owed them for a "favor" I never asked for, especially from someone I've never met or spoken to. It would just make me want to keep my distance permanently. But I'm antisocial.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Sept 30, 2018 18:20:57 GMT
Oh sweetie. I’m talking about per say. Well, bless your heart myshelly. Who really gives a shit. We all know what she's saying
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Post by myshelly on Sept 30, 2018 18:21:56 GMT
Oh sweetie. I’m talking about per say. Well, bless your heart myshelly. Who really gives a shit. We all know what she's saying Oh, we all know you don’t care about spelling or grammar.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Sept 30, 2018 18:37:21 GMT
Oh, we all know you don’t care about spelling or grammar. eyeroll. You're such a bully. Why do you even come on here? and who made YOU grammar police? I don't think most of us give a crap about how something is spelled. Just enjoy the interactions. In the grand scheme of things, WHO cares how someone spells something? or made to feel inferior about it? Hope it makes you feel good!
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Post by peano on Sept 30, 2018 18:39:16 GMT
How could they do this without your son's DL? When I have rented a car, we had to provide DL of whoever will be driving it-and rental company takes copy of DL. I would not participate in fraud with the company....to many "what ifs" involved. Stick to your plan. What?!! DS would not be driving the car.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Sept 30, 2018 18:43:12 GMT
How could they do this without your son's DL? When I have rented a car, we had to provide DL of whoever will be driving it-and rental company takes copy of DL. I would not participate in fraud with the company....to many "what ifs" involved. Stick to your plan. You've vastly mis-read the OP. As to the OP - I would probably ask DS what his preference is. The rental details aren't concerning to me, really. But then again, I'd do just about anything to avoid 7 hours in the car. Ugh ugh ugh
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