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Post by Lexica on Oct 3, 2018 22:49:36 GMT
Well, I thought I was done posting about him. I heard from a neighbor a few weeks agothat the woman down the street was finally beyond her breaking point and had told him to move out. Basically all the same things he had done in my home, making insane demands and breaking anything he attempted to repair, he did in her home. I had heard he pitched a big fit when she told him her 3 boys were going to be using the upstairs bathroom that he considered his alone. She had been having her boys use her bathroom, but they are old enough to need their own. I have known this for a few weeks and half anticipated him asking to move back in.
He texted me a couple of weeks ago to let me know there was a man putting a note on my car. I thanked him and figured it was another offer to buy my car. (It was. I keep getting a few notes a month on it.) This was his conversation starting text. He told me he was moving again and asked if there was any possibility of returning to my place. I texted back that I am not going to be here very long and that I was not willing to rent any rooms in my home ever again.
Just a few minutes ago, I received a text from him asking if he could use me as a reference for a room rental at a home nearby! Apparently this new location wants phone numbers of past rental situations for references. Since I kicked him out of my home with angry feelings toward him and told him a few weeks ago that I will never be renting a room again after the experience with him, why ask me?
So, what would you do? I’m leaning toward just texting no, I am not able to give him a positive reference.
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Post by jumperhop on Oct 3, 2018 22:54:34 GMT
I think I would just ignore the texts. If he persists then I would say, I really don’t think I would be a good reference.”
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Post by workingclassdog on Oct 3, 2018 22:54:35 GMT
I would not give him good a good reference... I mean I don't want anyone homeless but he needs to know his boundaries and he doesn't.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 3, 2018 22:56:18 GMT
I’d say ignore the text and block his number. I wouldn’t want to get in the middle of any of this guy’s future dealings. If you give him a bad reference he could try to lash out back at you for that and if you gave him a positive reference it would be a disservice to the new landlord knowing what you know. I would want to stay as far away from that nutball as I could.
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Post by katlaw on Oct 3, 2018 23:08:01 GMT
I would not ignore him. He may just think you did not get his message and keep asking. I would text him back and say that you are unable to give him a reference. And then if you want to ignore his texts stop answering him. I would not engage any more than just the refusal. What a piece of work he is.
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Post by Lexica on Oct 3, 2018 23:13:08 GMT
Oh, there is zero possibility of me giving him a good reference, and I am surprised that he doesn’t know this. If I were to give any feedback at all, it would be the truth about my experience. I couldn’t possibly recommend anyone rent to him.
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Oct 3, 2018 23:21:05 GMT
He's asked for a reference, did he specifically ask for a good one?
I'd be happy to oblige and save some other person that hassle.
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Post by pierkiss on Oct 3, 2018 23:21:31 GMT
He did not ask you for a “good reference”. That omission right there would allow me to say sure, and then when contacted absolutely unload on every horrible things he ever did on the prospective landlord to keep him out of their home. And I would absolutely not feel guilty about it.
It’s a little detail we were taught by our professors when asking for letters of rec when applying for grad schools and jobs. If you say “good letter of rec” or “good letter of reference”, the professor can either agree to that term or can politely tell you “no I am unable to do this for you at this time”. Which would then allow you to politely ask why not or what can I do to make myself a better applicant or something. But if you just say “can you write me a letter of rec or be a job reference”, the door is wide open for them to say yes, and also to speak the truth about how you behaved during your time period with that person.
I had to do it with one of my undergrad practicum students. I specifically went over this point with my students. Like, obnoxiously so because it is THAT important. And this girl completely ignored my warnings about it. She asked me to write her a letter of rec to the supervising professor. I said yes. And I wrote my letter of non-recommendation complete with detailed examples of what had happened that made me do that. My professor was immensely proud of me, and she did not get into grad school that year (she made a MASSIVE mistake followed by more mini mistakes). (He was proud of me for not sugar coating my assessment of her performance and not skirting the issues. My being too nice was something that he and I specifically worked on when I was in graduate school, and for me to do something like this, so out of character for me showed growth and understanding of the gravity of the situation). I still don’t feel guilty about it and it’s been 12 years.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 3, 2018 23:26:50 GMT
Say no. Do not get involved with a bad reference. Or if he insists do the "I would NEVER rent to him again"
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Post by MichyM on Oct 3, 2018 23:27:43 GMT
If it was me, I'd text back and say yes, you will provide a reference that he lived with you.
If you are contacted, answer the questions they ask. Don't offer any info beyond that, even though it was a trying situation. If they have ANY brains, they'll be able to figure things out by the answers you give to them. Not your problem now.
Chances are, you'll never hear from potential landlords.
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Post by disneypal on Oct 3, 2018 23:37:24 GMT
Personally, I think you should tell him that he can give your name / number to the potential landlord. Then when the Landlord calls, be honest and tell them your experience. You don't have to give details, but let them know that it wasn't a positive experience and you wouldn't rent to him again.
Don't you wish someone would have told you about him before you rented to him?
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Oct 3, 2018 23:55:58 GMT
I would reply If you want to.
Then I would block his number.
You don't need to be hearing from him
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Post by LiLi on Oct 4, 2018 0:35:47 GMT
Ignore/block you owe this person nothing.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Oct 4, 2018 1:16:09 GMT
I would text back saying you are 'not interested in serving as a reference for him.' If he uses you anyway and a potential landlord contacts you, simply verify that, yes, you rented a room to him from x-date to x-date. To every question they ask you, reiterate that 'I can only confirm I rented to him from x-date to x-date.' Hopefully, they read between the lines.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 1:28:03 GMT
I'd tell him no and that you'd prefer not to have to answer questions relating to his tenancy.
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Post by papersilly on Oct 4, 2018 1:48:43 GMT
If I were a potential landlord, I would want to know about his past behavior. If he is putting you in as a reference, why would you not tell the truth?
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Post by marianne on Oct 4, 2018 2:22:45 GMT
I’m leaning toward just texting no, I am not able to give him a positive reference. And there you go. You already know the right answer. This man made your life miserable. Why on God's green earth do you feel the need to engage on anything at all with this person? Please, stop tryng to be nicey-nice with this man. Tell him no, just no. His inability to provide references to a new landlord is simply not your problem.
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Post by inkedup on Oct 4, 2018 2:34:02 GMT
I'm not sure why this man is still in your life in any way.
Ignore and move on. For good.
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Post by phoenixcov on Oct 4, 2018 9:25:59 GMT
I would tell him no then block and ignore.
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Post by M in Carolina on Oct 4, 2018 9:39:53 GMT
If he texts back and is persistent, tell them the truth.
I'd go with 'I can only confirm that he was an occupant of my home from mm/dd/yy to mm/dd/yy.' Then add details when they persist. Which they will.
Be careful. I don't want to see any news articles about you.
So glad he is out almost out of your life!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 9:45:05 GMT
I would tell him no and ask him to not contact you again and then block him. The consequences of giving him a bad reference, even directly to his new landlord, could backfire on you. You could end up with more problems from him than what you have already experienced in the past. Cut off all contact with him and move on.
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Oct 4, 2018 10:09:27 GMT
I voted yes, and then tell the agency everything.
I think he needs to hear from someone impartial what his failings are as a renter. If this agency can tell him that they can only take him on if agrees not to specifically a) b) c) etc, then he might realise that these are the reasons he can't keep a home. So the agency is not naming you or the other renter as a tattle-tale, but is giving him solid advice about what is acceptable and unacceptable behaviour. Maybe he can modify his behaviour, or maybe he has deep-seated issues and is going to be moved from place to place forever, but at least you've done your best.
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Post by tuesdaysgone on Oct 4, 2018 10:14:26 GMT
I'm really sorry he is still a presence in your life (although his saga has given us hours of entertainment here). I'm with others who advise you to block his number and ask him to have no further contact with you. Even giving a poor reference is prolonging this mess too long.
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Post by StephDRebel on Oct 4, 2018 12:58:21 GMT
What Is your payoff for interacting with him? There is some benefit or you would've ignored the first message and blocked his number.
No is a complete sentence.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Oct 4, 2018 13:04:39 GMT
Ignore. Then continue to ignore.
Why are you still communicating with him? At some point, the problems you have with him are instigated by you. You continue to keep the door open, figuratively. What are you getting out of this?
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Post by freebird on Oct 4, 2018 14:26:29 GMT
I don't understand why he doesn't get regular rental housing. Like an apartment where he can be his weird self and have his own bathroom and not share a house. What's the back story on that?
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Post by originalvanillabean on Oct 4, 2018 14:33:32 GMT
I would decline to give him a reference.
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Post by peabrain on Oct 4, 2018 16:41:57 GMT
I think the correct response would be "New phone, who dis"
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Post by flute4peace on Oct 4, 2018 23:39:24 GMT
I think I would just ignore the texts. If he persists then I would say, I really don’t think I would be a good reference.” This
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Post by Lexica on Oct 5, 2018 3:51:31 GMT
I don't understand why he doesn't get regular rental housing. Like an apartment where he can be his weird self and have his own bathroom and not share a house. What's the back story on that? I have no idea why he prefers to rent a room rather than an apartment. I suppose it could be that a room is cheaper. A one-bedroom around here rents for $1,500 to $2,000 a month. Rooms go for $700 to $1,200. I once suggested to him that he buy in one of the mobile home parks in the area. Then he would own something, have a write off, and wouldn’t have to keep looking for rooms to rent. He didn’t say much about the suggestion so I never brought it up again. Personally I don’t get his choice of room renting at all. I don’t know how many rooms he has lived in over his life, but there must be dozens. You’d think with all of his quirks, it would be less stressful to be making mortgage payments versus room rent and not having to wonder when he was going to be told to move out again. I was out all day today and truthfully forgot all about his request, but I will text tomorrow that I am not willing to be a reference. I can’t imagine him contacting me again after that.
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