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Post by paperaddict on Oct 13, 2018 6:52:26 GMT
You keep in touch with the people that you want to. I just met up with a few friends, who I thought were close and good friends, and realized that we have not met up for over 3 months. We live in the same city. One friend was sick for 2.5 months and did not tell us about it. Another "had a bad summer" so refused to reply to any of our messages or phone calls. Did not tell us about it either. I felt like screaming out during this dinner, "what the hell kind of friends are we?" I feel that friendship is a two way street, so if I share my worries with you, you can do the same. Obviously, this is not how these friends are. I am coming to this realization right now.
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Post by hannahruth on Oct 13, 2018 7:00:56 GMT
I understand what you saying but sometimes, if life is really tough some of us just don't want to tell people what is going on because it is really just to hard to even discuss it especially when you are living it.
It doesn't mean that you are not my friend it means that I don't want to burden you - and when I'm through it I will maybe able to discuss it. It is painful that I'm not as vocal as some but it is just the way some of us are and I mean no offence.
it means to me that I can talk to someone unconnected to my current issue and not talk about things and talk about other things instead.
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Post by Lexica on Oct 13, 2018 7:20:40 GMT
I have a friend who I have known since we were in diapers. Throughout our friendship, life has taken us on some ups and down and there have been times that we can go months without seeing each other. There have even been some year long breaks in there. But when we do get together, it has always been as if it was only a few days between visits. I mean we will have to exchange more information if it has been too long, but the quality of the friendship is still very strong. There is never any pressure or expectation on either of us, and I think that is part of why we have been friends over 60 years.
There are times that I don’t immediately share something if it is bad news when I know she is going through something difficult too. I don’t want to add to her immediate burden. We always share eventually, and it has always worked for us. Could your friends be trying to keep from bringing the others down? Can you put forth more of an effort to arrange meet ups more frequently and put effort into drawing each other out?
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Post by Kerri W on Oct 13, 2018 10:25:40 GMT
When I’m going through a particularly difficult time, I don’t tend to share right away. I put my head down and get to work, so to speak. Day to day stresses I prefer to talk out. Friendship for me is knowing how my friends deal/process things and being respectful of that. Of my two best friends I know intimate details about one and not a ton about the other’s stressful times. One calls and says she needs to have lunch or go get a drink and the other we hear about things well after they’re resolved. It’s about being there for whatever they need...and sometimes that’s space.
I have to admit I personally would not handle it well if I was already going through something and a friend was put off because I hadn’t given them the details they wanted. At that point it isn’t about them.
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Post by jenjie on Oct 13, 2018 12:39:24 GMT
I agree with the others. Also 3 months is not a long time for getting together. As long as you are connecting in some way. There are some friends I’m in contact with more often and some we connect every so often but we know we are there for each other if needed.
I was talking to one of those friends this week. She’s been in a place of depression and really wasn’t up to talking about it until now. And that’s ok.
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Post by peasapie on Oct 13, 2018 12:42:16 GMT
I’m a clam. I open to help others and shut tight when I’m stressed. Eventually I do open up and put out a feeler, but it’s hard for me to do. So don’t be too hard in your friends because we all have our own way of coping. The thing is, when I can finally reach out, my friends are always, always there for me, and I know this. And it helps tremendously.
I’ve been going through a divorce since May. I initiated it. My husband cannot or will not express feelings or emotions, is physically and emotionally withdrawn, and very controlling. Although I knew I’d done all I could to try to improve the marriage and that I have been damaged along the way, I still had a lot of anxiety and stress about leaving him. I’ve lost weight. I’m always nauseous and can’t sleep more than two hours at a time, and very few people in my life know how truly hard it’s been for me because I can’t even relax enough to tell them. But slowly I’ve started, and they are surrounding me like wagons around a campfire.
Just know your friends will tell you when they’re able — and then BE THERE for them like nobody’s business.
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Post by J u l e e on Oct 13, 2018 12:53:14 GMT
I feel that friendship is a two way street, so if I share my worries with you, you can do the same. Obviously, this is not how these friends are. I am coming to this realization right now. This is not how I am either. I don't process my worries out loud with other people, outside of my husband if I really need to. I just don't. It's not helpful to me. I do have friends who share their worries with me because it's helpful to them to process out loud with someone else. We're all different. That doesn't make us less of friends at all! I'm guessing you're more upset about the keeping in touch part. It would bother me to have messages and phone calls ignored. If I need space or time I'll tell my friends that and they'll respect that if they're good friends. Maybe that's the part you can address with them - figure out how you all "do you" and respect that in each other. That's friendship.
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Post by momto4kiddos on Oct 13, 2018 12:58:54 GMT
I'm another who keeps things to myself when they're stressful. I just saw a friend who I shared something with after the fact. She wasn't hurt, but said she considered me a great friend and hoped I felt I could come to her with things. She also she knew I was a very private person so she understood.
And it certainly wasn't that I didn't consider her someone I could trust or share with, I just wasn't ready. I had an ongoing issue that required surgery that had the potential for a lot of complications. It was a lot of stress for me and the only people who knew beforehand were my dh, my adult kids and my doctor. It's just the way I process and move through certain things.
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Oct 13, 2018 13:02:49 GMT
Guess I’m a bad friend then because I’m pretty much like what you described...I don’t open up and talk to people about my issues and I do tend to pull away when I’m going through something, In return though I’m a really good friend to others as far as being there for that person if they need me...if they need space I back off because I feel like that’s what a good friend should do. I don’t find 3 months very long either to see each other..life happens.
I think you need to figure out if these friends are people you want in your life as they are because they don’t need the stress of having you feel as you do on them and you shouldn’t be stuck in a friendship that you 100% aren’t happy with.
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Post by YooHoot on Oct 13, 2018 13:07:27 GMT
I am also not a sharer. I tend to keep it inside and it’s how I am. We all have stuff in our lives and moments where things are falling apart. Some are vocal and announce it on Facebook. Others will be so quiet about something that people will say “I never saw that coming”. peasapie Sorry about your news. It can’t be easy even if you initiate it. Be strong. Take care of yourself.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Oct 13, 2018 13:12:33 GMT
I don't think it means your friendships aren't real. I'm going through some stuff right now and I've only shared with maybe 3 friends. 2 are my bestfriends and 1 I knew would be able to give me some guidance and options for me. Doesn't mean that my other friendships are real. In fact, we had a mom's night out last weekend. I didn't let them know what was going on. Right now, it's just best if I keep this to myself.
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 13, 2018 13:31:14 GMT
I have friends that I don't see that often, but who would (and have) coming running, if I needed them. But, one friend has really pulled back from our friendship and I am sorry about that. We always go to dinner for our birthdays and last year she never could find time. Her second grandchild was born this summer and she didn't find time to even text me about that. It hurts, but people change.
I am sorry you are feeling sad about your friendships.
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Post by idahopea on Oct 13, 2018 13:50:25 GMT
I've found that sharing a very difficult thing I'm going through can make me feel worse physically and emotionally. Just talking about it can be extremely stressful and then if I start crying, I cannot talk, get a runny nose or all stuffed up, get a headache for hours afterward, feel guilty for making the other person sad, etc. I've also found that if someone is nice to me during a really difficult time, I will cry even more! It makes no sense, but that's how I react.
I've been dealing with an ongoing problem and as the person who has always helped others it is very hard to accept help, comfort, etc., but I'm working on it. I do find that texting is often easier for me than talking so I try to stay in contact with my friends that way. I could never talk about sad, personal stuff while out at dinner with several friends because I would feel like I ruined everyone's evening out.
Another thing to keep in mind is the person with the problem may not want it out into the community, especially if you live in a small town. Secrets are almost impossible to keep for many people and word will get out. Nothing like going to the grocery store and having someone ask you about your health issue that you only told a couple of other people about! There are many, many reasons why someone might not want their problem out there, especially if it might effect their work or their spouses work due to having to take time off for appointments, etc.
I appreciate when my friends try to help me. I really do!!! I also appreciate when they don't make me feel bad for not sharing when it isn't the right time. Sometimes it has to be about what's best for me right now and not about what's best for my friends. Sometimes it takes everything to just get through the day without dealing with someone else's reactions to my stuff, you know? I hope everyone dealing with difficult things finds peace and solace today- even if it is just for a bit of your day!
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Post by janeliz on Oct 13, 2018 14:09:11 GMT
I’m sorry. It’s hurtful and confusing when you feel like a friendship or friendships may be changing or even withering a bit.
I can relate to the previous posters who said they tend to keep their problems to themselves. I do the same, but I don’t isolate myself. When I’m going through a stressful time, I yearn to be around my friends and talk about anything but my problems.
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Post by hop2 on Oct 13, 2018 14:17:46 GMT
I am way more willing to help other people than to ask for help. Or even admit I need help. ‘I’m fine’ Which I am really, I'm reminded every day at work of how good I have it. Comparatively I am actually ‘fine’
But in times of deep stress or sorrow I prefer to hide. I didn’t want to even acknowledge when my parents died to all & sundry because I didn’t want to talk about it. A well meaning person asking how I am could bring on a hysterical crying binge no telling how long it would last. No way in hell did I want to talk to anyone about it.
My medical issues that took up the month of July were sort of really personal and not something I wanted to talk about. It was embarrassing enough that seemingly 1/2 the staff if TWO hospitals got to deal with this I wasn’t going to tell people any more than I had to. So texting my friends about it wasn’t something I wanted to do.
Some people just can’t open up in some situations. Are they there for you? Was this regular behavior to not respond for a long time? If it’s an aberration and they will respond to you now perhaps you just move on together with the friendship as it was? If it’s now thier normal then perhaps you are drifting apart. It’s awkward when friendship is consistently one sided. You can carry each other from time to time but not always one person all the time.
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Post by mom on Oct 13, 2018 14:58:52 GMT
You keep in touch with the people that you want to. I just met up with a few friends, who I thought were close and good friends, and realized that we have not met up for over 3 months. We live in the same city. One friend was sick for 2.5 months and did not tell us about it. Another "had a bad summer" so refused to reply to any of our messages or phone calls. Did not tell us about it either. I felt like screaming out during this dinner, "what the hell kind of friends are we?" I feel that friendship is a two way street, so if I share my worries with you, you can do the same. Obviously, this is not how these friends are. I am coming to this realization right now. Honestly, I think you (are rightfully so) hurt. But I think you need to step back, and see that this isn't about you & how you deal with things. For whatever reason, your friends chose to keep whatever they were going through to themselves. My guess is they were just trying not to drown and just get through life. Try not to take it personally. Sometimes things seem so much worse if you actually have to tell someone you are in the middle of hell. I don't think it means they aren't your friends.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 15:29:35 GMT
I have to admit I personally would not handle it well if I was already going through something and a friend was put off because I hadn’t given them the details they wanted. At that point it isn’t about them. This 100%. I do not have to share.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 15:32:06 GMT
I’m a very private person (who posts on a public forum ha!), but I don’t share much with anyone except DH. Not to say that you repeat what you hear, but some people just aren’t comfortable with sharing things that might get repeated or they may be looked at differently for. It has nothing to do with you, but everything to do with them. Unless they are a threat to their own well being, I would give them that personal space they need and just enjoy them for the company that they are capable of offering.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 15:38:36 GMT
My bestie and I can go for months without talking to each other just due to the busyness of life or being in a particularly hard phase of life. We will text or send each other FB messages to say "Hey, I know we love each other and we will get together really soon when the waters calm". My bestie also knows we well enough that when I am in a particularly tough time in life I retreat and I don't want people hanging all over me or trying to help. I need to retreat, focus, strategize and execute to fix or exit the situation.
For us friendship means we can go an extended length of time without talking to each then pick right back up where we left off.
I love this statement and it is so very, very true. Don't make the situation about you.
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Post by PLurker on Oct 13, 2018 16:02:15 GMT
Yeah, I'm on the I'll share when I'm ready camp. Lots of times I need time to process and work out things myself before I'm ready to share. Especially about relationships. Until my mind is made up, if I shared I would sound like an indecisive lunatic with all the back in forth thoughts in my brain from day to day.
They did share. Now, not then. When they choose to do that is not up to you. Be for them now if you want to continue the friendship. (not trying to sound hand-slappy just my thoughts)
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Post by mustlovecats on Oct 13, 2018 16:33:50 GMT
on the other hand... if you can set aside your own expectations a little, you may find that it is of great comfort to have friendships that can ebb and flow as life does and be resilient to change. I can think of many times I’ve gone a little while without talking to a friend including about some bad stuff and we just picked back up where we had left off and it felt comforting to know that was okay.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 13, 2018 17:11:38 GMT
When I was in high school, college, and a young adult, I talked to my best friends every day and told them every secret. Probably more than they wanted to hear.
I’m much more private now. There are many things I don’t feel like sharing with women friends other than maybe my sisters or my daughter. I don’t feel like spending half my life on the phone or killing time on coffee and chit-chat every day. I’m totally happy getting together once every couple of months and catching up then.
It doesn’t mean I’m less fond of my friends. It means that life is more complicated and demanding, and I’m more introverted than I used to be. I’m grateful for my old friends, just on a slightly more limited basis.
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Post by SweetieBugs on Oct 13, 2018 17:40:07 GMT
I understand what you saying but sometimes, if life is really tough some of us just don't want to tell people what is going on because it is really just to hard to even discuss it especially when you are living it. It doesn't mean that you are not my friend it means that I don't want to burden you - and when I'm through it I will maybe able to discuss it. It is painful that I'm not as vocal as some but it is just the way some of us are and I mean no offence. it means to me that I can talk to someone unconnected to my current issue and not talk about things and talk about other things instead. This past January I received devastating, life altering news concerning my child. It took a long time to even partially digest the news and consider what our new future would be. I didn't share the news with my mom or sister for a few months and after that just a few friends. It just isn't something that is easy to discuss. Sometimes people keep "secrets" because talking about it makes them vulnerable and causes a lot of pain. Also, with my situation, I feel that I am betraying my DD's privacy. I am one of those people that are walking around living a lie--"fine" or "ok" when asked but truly, desperately struggling on the inside.
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Post by refugeepea on Oct 13, 2018 17:46:02 GMT
I do believe friendship should be a two way street so maybe it's time to move on. That's why I'm ending mine (can't reciprocate). Or you could all be in different places where you don't have much in common anymore. Maybe you could try one of those meet up groups.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 17:57:11 GMT
We have not share much about husband’s surgery and have said nothing to any family. I needed to take care of him , not his family. They are all pretty worthless in the help department. My husband didn’t need them seeing me help him put his underwear on. We avoided a lot of phones during that time.
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Post by kate on Oct 13, 2018 18:17:14 GMT
Sometimes, you actually DON'T keep in touch with the people you want to. Sometimes, especially during stressful times, I only keep in touch with the people I have to see in the course of my day - even if I would (abstractly) rather talk over my problems with different friends. Does that make sense? I suck at the nuts-and-bolts maintenance of friendships - the making of coffee dates, the just-to-catch-up phone calls, etc. I do, however, treasure my friendships, and I feel really humbled and fortunate to have the amazing friends I do. I have one friend who is as bad as I am about the nuts-and-bolts stuff. We see each other only a couple of times a year, though we don't live far from each other at all. He used to apologize regularly when he'd call or text ("I know I haven't called in forever - I'm so sorry!"), but I finally said, "I know you trust that I love you, even though I suck at staying in touch. Please know that I trust in you, too, so can we both just quit with the apologies?" Another of my friends, if I don't respond within a day to her text, immediately starts in with "ARE YOU OK?" which totally stresses me out. If you're feeling neglected by your friends, that's one thing - you deserve to have friendships that satisfy you and make you feel valued. But if it's more that you're just feeling weird about all this important stuff going unshared among your friends, I think you can rest easy. For myself, this describes it really well: it is of great comfort to have friendships that can ebb and flow as life does and be resilient to change. I can think of many times I’ve gone a little while without talking to a friend including about some bad stuff and we just picked back up where we had left off and it felt comforting to know that was okay.
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Post by rickmer on Oct 13, 2018 18:42:48 GMT
i am dealing with two close friends who feel incredibly hurt and are questioning our friendship right now. when i decided to separate from my husband, i didn't tell any friends. their kids are friends with my kids and we hadn't told them yet. after we told the kids, i told them and they were shocked. and hurt. and angry.
they questioned how i could make a decision like this without confiding in them, that clearly we weren't as close as they thought we were.
i get the shock (okay, not really... writing was on the wall but i will give them that).... i get the hurt.... i don't *at all* get the angry.
as others have alluded to... sometimes you are dealing with things internally and don't have it in you to bring others into it until you are ready.
and no, i don't think 3 months is that long of a time either. i have several very dear friends that i see infrequently but when we get together we just pick up where we left off. and i don't feel they are "obligated" to share anything with me. if they do share, i try to be a supportive and compassionate friend.
i understand you might be hurt... but i hope you can see past it to realize it might not be able you or your relationship and that people's lives are complicated. they may only offer as much of themselves as they are able . (((hugs))) to you.
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Post by chlerbie on Oct 13, 2018 18:51:54 GMT
I totally get it. I had someone I considered a really close friend. But then things began to happen that made me realize that much of the friendship was a one way street. We didn't share our happy/sad news til we got together and I often felt that when we did, I was being a "therapist" much of the time. I went through something rough and didn't share it right away, then finally did and while she was receptive at first, but then never bothered following up, which really hurt. I did still try again after a couple of months--asking to get together and she said she'd let me know when a good date was. After six weeks of not hearing from her, I sent a brief, hurt (and admittedly passive aggressive text) and she was surprised I was both angry and hurt. For me, it was kind of the last straw and I just backed off from the friendship. While I do value the friendships I have that are the type where we don't see each other for months and just start right back where we left off, with my really close friends, I want more.
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Post by likescarrots on Oct 13, 2018 18:59:17 GMT
When I’m going through a particularly difficult time, I don’t tend to share right away. I put my head down and get to work, so to speak. Day to day stresses I prefer to talk out. Friendship for me is knowing how my friends deal/process things and being respectful of that. Of my two best friends I know intimate details about one and not a ton about the other’s stressful times. One calls and says she needs to have lunch or go get a drink and the other we hear about things well after they’re resolved. It’s about being there for whatever they need...and sometimes that’s space. I have to admit I personally would not handle it well if I was already going through something and a friend was put off because I hadn’t given them the details they wanted. At that point it isn’t about them. This. OP, you are being really harsh and judgemental toward your friends, who are clearly going through a hard time. Try to be a little more respectful of their situations and how they process their stress and grief.
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