samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 19, 2018 4:13:26 GMT
My DD, Emily, 9 yo twin to a brother, has always struggled with reading/math/spelling. She was tested last year by the special education group for learning disabilities (Wisc and other tests) and she scored in the average/below average range but did not qualify for an IEP. She's been in the reading intervention group since 1st grade, so she needs that extra support. Over the summer she and I worked on the school program work book, Really Great Reading, and Em said to me, "Mom, I don't see the periods. They are too small. And when the words have the dots (signifies syllables) in between that messes me up." Em does not write with periods or capitals easily.... ok.... interesting...
I went to the special ed team and discussed this and they did a test with colored transparencies.. Em said she could see better with turquoise and pink overlays... and then the sped team did a visual processing test and Em scored in a low 10th percentile. This now qualifies her for an IEP. Next week I scheduled her for an exam at a private facility to test for visual/tracking (1st exam) and then a thorough visual processing exam. Anyone experience this or have any suggestions? The sped team said that they have only experienced one other student with this deficiency, so I'm wondering what to suggest to put in the IEP.
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seaexplore
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Post by seaexplore on Oct 19, 2018 4:24:15 GMT
I have taught for 20 years and haven’t run across this particular type of processing disorder...
I’m wondering if she can use those overlays to do her work? Maybe let her write with colored pencils or pens instead of regular ones?
Curious what you decide to ask for.
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Post by christine58 on Oct 19, 2018 10:21:55 GMT
The sped team said that they have only experienced one other student with this deficiency, so I'm wondering what to suggest to put in the IEP. A vision specialist to work with her. They do exist. I know some kids with dyslexia benefit from those overlays.
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Post by sabrinae on Oct 19, 2018 10:34:18 GMT
My oldest had something similar, but hers was related to her eyes focusing at different points. The assessment should also check for any difficulties she has with the eye muscles and their work. My daughter did almost 2 years of visual therapy. I had to pay out of pocket for all but two months of it and had to drive two hours once or twice a week to get her to the place that specializes in it. But it was well worth it. She is now completely caught up academically and is above grade level in most subjects. We did therapy for two sessions a week at the eye clinic and then I did therapy with her every night at home. She was reassessed every 4 weeks to determine where they needed to focus on next or if they needed to continue with what they were doing. As for the IEP I would ask that she be allowed to use the overlays. You could also consider asking that tests be read aloud to her. I would ask for frequent breaks for her as school tends to be visually intense and fatigue her quickly
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Post by librarylady on Oct 19, 2018 14:00:10 GMT
A local radio gardening expert talked about the overlays a few years ago. He said the white background hurts his eyes. As a child, he sat in the car and read with that light rather than the lights in a room. He then talked about how the colored sheets to place over books helped him. I asked our reading specialist and she said that the colored overlays really do help some children, but not all.
Apparently blue is the one that helps many children.
It was suggested that the cheaper way to address this was the transparent plastic folders work--cut them into ta size to fit the books.
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Julie W
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Post by Julie W on Oct 19, 2018 14:34:26 GMT
Yes, my daughter was diagnosed with Convergence Insufficiency (sounds similar to what Sabrinae described above) which is a visual processing disorder. Simply put her eyes did not work together to converge and so she frequently saw words blurry or dancing around a page, board, etc. This was discovered in second grade. A regular optometrist did not catch it.
I don't know if it was our state or what, but these are not widely known about and she did not qualify for services in the school. We were lucky to find a place that deals with all types of processing disorders near her school. Because this originated from a base issue, she first needed occupational therapy and then she went on to vision therapy - the problem is now resolved. We do get her eyes checked by the optometrist at the specialty dsorder place, just to be safe.
Though the school could not provide services, there were accommodations set up in an IEP when she needed it.
Good luck.
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Post by sabrinae on Oct 19, 2018 14:55:14 GMT
Yes, my daughter was diagnosed with Convergence Insufficiency (sounds similar to what Sabrinae described above) which is a visual processing disorder. Simply put her eyes did not work together to converge and so she frequently saw words blurry or dancing around a page, board, etc. This was discovered in second grade. A regular optometrist did not catch it. I don't know if it was our state or what, but these are not widely known about and she did not qualify for services in the school. We were lucky to find a place that deals with all types of processing disorders near her school. Because this originated from a base issue, she first needed occupational therapy and then she went on to vision therapy - the problem is now resolved. We do get her eyes checked by the optometrist at the specialty dsorder place, just to be safe. Though the school could not provide services, there were accommodations set up in an IEP when she needed it. Good luck. My daughter was diagnosed with convergence insufficiency. It had also impacted other areas as you describe. It is an often overlooked diagnosis. According to the Drs we saw, they suspect somewhere around 25% of kids have some eye related disorder or difficulty not caught on a standard exam. I always suggest a full scale eye assessment now of asked for advice for kids who are struggling in school or having any vision related issues
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bethany102399
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Post by bethany102399 on Oct 19, 2018 15:07:01 GMT
Ask your optometrist. I was literally sitting in her office on Tuesday reading their poster about visual processing disorder and how it could connect to my son. Their poster was explaining the services they offer. At the very least, they might give you some insight on how to best help your daughter.
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AmeliaBloomer
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Oct 19, 2018 16:43:52 GMT
There’s information in this article about vision therapy as it relates to who provides it and why it is typically not provided in school settings. There are a couple position papers linked at the end which could also be helpful to your research. (The article is written from the perspective of teachers of the blind/partially sighted who only work with those two populations.)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 16:44:56 GMT
My daughter was diagnosed with visual-spatial processing disorder by an occupational therapist but ended up experiencing multiple types of visual processing disorders throughout her school years. The school didn't know what to do with her or how to help her. I had to feed them a lot of the accommodations. I can't tell you how many times I was in a meeting room with our district SPED person feeding her information from the State of Texas of what she needed to do to help my kid. It was a hard road with DD having to repeat the first grade. She is a senior this year and will be graduating early.
There are about eight different types of visual processing disorders. Sometimes things can be narrowed down to one type. Other times, depending on age of the child and the point in time when the test was administered the student exhibits symptoms from multiple types of visual processing disorders. [ahref="https://www.churchillstl.org/learning-disability-resources/visual-processing-disorder/"]Here[/a] is a website listing the different types of visual processing disorders. Visual processing disorder is not always about the eyes work - it is about how the brain interprets (or misinterprets) what the eyes see.
Each child is going to respond differently to available techniques. The top things I can recommend are lots of patience, lots of repetition, using dyslexia methodologies to learn how to read if you have a struggling reader, small spurts of studying with frequent breaks (15 mins studying/working with a 5 minute break), extra time for tests, the ability to type class notes on a computer or a teacher provide a written handout, use a calculator with multi-step math problems, sit in the front of the class, and ability to use noise canceling headphones during periods of quiet concentration.
These accommodations (or a combination of them) helped my daughter get through school. The older she became the less she relied on these tools because she learned how to work with her strengths but they are always there for her to fall back on.
She can overcome it. It takes time a lot of time, understanding teachers who are efficient, clear, no-fluff and direct in how they teach, and your daughter building confidence in the ways she can succeed so make sure she is involved in things she loves to do outside of school.
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Post by Basket1lady on Oct 19, 2018 16:47:06 GMT
My oldest had something similar, but hers was related to her eyes focusing at different points. The assessment should also check for any difficulties she has with the eye muscles and their work. My daughter did almost 2 years of visual therapy. I had to pay out of pocket for all but two months of it and had to drive two hours once or twice a week to get her to the place that specializes in it. But it was well worth it. She is now completely caught up academically and is above grade level in most subjects. We did therapy for two sessions a week at the eye clinic and then I did therapy with her every night at home. She was reassessed every 4 weeks to determine where they needed to focus on next or if they needed to continue with what they were doing. As for the IEP I would ask that she be allowed to use the overlays. You could also consider asking that tests be read aloud to her. I would ask for frequent breaks for her as school tends to be visually intense and fatigue her quickly Your DD is a champion! I had something similar earlier this year. I’d had IOL surgery on one eye, but had complications and didn’t have the other eye done for 2 months. It was really disorientating and I’d fumble with steps, a rasised area of floor (like a threshold) and generally had no depth perception. I could only read on an iPad (Kindle wasn’t big enough) and the words were huge. I couldn’t even really watch tv, I didn’t drive, and didn’t even go for walks in the neighborhood. Over the 2 months, I gradually gained the ability to see better and tell when a floor was uneven, but really couldn’t tell if I had to step up or down. I’m so glad that your DD got the help she needed. Good job, mama!
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Post by johnnysmom on Oct 19, 2018 17:11:34 GMT
My oldest had similar issues early on. It took until mid 4th grade to determine it was a vision problem. Fortunately we were able to find an optometrist that specialized in vision therapy. His was minor enough that we were able to do therapy at home with some special computer software and just have him reassessed periodically (of course it was still expensive and not covered by insurance ). He’s now 17 and he can read fine but he doesn’t like to read and isn’t a great student (pretty much a B/C student). I don’t know if that’s his personality or if it relates back to his struggles early on . He never had anything other than reading support at school, no talk of an IEP. We did hold him back in 1st grade which worked in his favor, it was partly for the reading delays and partly for maturity (he was young for his class initially)
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SabrinaP
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Post by SabrinaP on Oct 19, 2018 17:16:56 GMT
First of all, way to go mom for continuing to work with your daughter and try to get her the help she needs!
I’ve had several kids with visual processing disorders that use overlays. They do seem to help when used consistently.
Was she also tested for dyslexia? Many times dyslexia and visual processing come hand in hand.
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Post by sabrinae on Oct 19, 2018 17:55:01 GMT
My oldest had something similar, but hers was related to her eyes focusing at different points. The assessment should also check for any difficulties she has with the eye muscles and their work. My daughter did almost 2 years of visual therapy. I had to pay out of pocket for all but two months of it and had to drive two hours once or twice a week to get her to the place that specializes in it. But it was well worth it. She is now completely caught up academically and is above grade level in most subjects. We did therapy for two sessions a week at the eye clinic and then I did therapy with her every night at home. She was reassessed every 4 weeks to determine where they needed to focus on next or if they needed to continue with what they were doing. As for the IEP I would ask that she be allowed to use the overlays. You could also consider asking that tests be read aloud to her. I would ask for frequent breaks for her as school tends to be visually intense and fatigue her quickly Your DD is a champion! I had something similar earlier this year. I’d had IOL surgery on one eye, but had complications and didn’t have the other eye done for 2 months. It was really disorientating and I’d fumble with steps, a rasised area of floor (like a threshold) and generally had no depth perception. I could only read on an iPad (Kindle wasn’t big enough) and the words were huge. I couldn’t even really watch tv, I didn’t drive, and didn’t even go for walks in the neighborhood. Over the 2 months, I gradually gained the ability to see better and tell when a floor was uneven, but really couldn’t tell if I had to step up or down. I’m so glad that your DD got the help she needed. Good job, mama! I hope your issues have resolved. That sounds miserable. My DD was a champ through all of it. The therapy tended to make her nauseous in the beginning because of all the different visual inputs. She actually vomited at times. But, she kept working through it. I will say the clinic we went to was great. They did their best to make games out of a lot of the therapy work. We started the testing in first grade; did therapy through second and third grade. She’s now in 6th grade and honestly you wouldn’t know without someone explaining the problems. She’s learned to compensate well for the few remaining issues and speak up to her teachers when she just needs a break.
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Post by cathyb on Oct 19, 2018 18:34:34 GMT
My ds, 12, was diagnosed with visual processing disorder in 1st grade. But it doesn't have anything to do with his sight/vision. It has to do with how his brain receives and processes the information he receives. You would give him a page of problems to add and he would subtract them. Sight words, it would he.like he had never seen them before after just studying them. Math in particular is the hardest for him. He went to a cognitive therapist for a few years and now we have him go to a tutor that is amazing. He does qualify for an IEP based on this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 18:44:40 GMT
I was diagnosed between my freshman and sophomore year in college. Purple was the color that helped me. I bought purple highlighters for my textbooks and purple legal pads for note taking. My grades improved dramatically after I was diagnosed. I always wonder what might have been if I had been diagnosed as a young child.
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Post by librarylady on Oct 23, 2018 18:25:46 GMT
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Peamac
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Post by Peamac on Oct 23, 2018 19:41:56 GMT
DD was finally diagnosed with a visual processing issue at 14 or so yo. She had 9 months of weekly therapy with exercises for her eyes and visual memory practice. It helped a lot, but I wish she'd been able to be diagnosed earlier- her spelling is atrocious and she struggled in college. she's 24, happily married, great at her job- assistant director of a preschool. She should wear reading glasses, but doesn't any more, since she doesn't have to read as much (well, she reads, but not for homework when the print is usually smaller). She still gets headaches sometimes when she's in a library because of the overhead lighting and rows and rows of bookshelves.
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leezer26
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Post by leezer26 on Oct 24, 2018 6:36:16 GMT
My son has this an we were already seeing an OT so she works on this with him. She has little activities they practice that help him track on a page better. They are too hard to explain. They do word searches and hidden pictures. We also learned that covering up part of the page at school helps him. And we keep his worksheets very simple. He is in 2nd grade and he has gotten so much better. He occasionally skips questions on tests but with his 504 plan his teacher will show him and give him time to go back. A vision twscher or OT at school could help but I’d get some outside therapy. Our OT met with my son every other week and she gave us things to practice in between. Then we went to monthly and now we just consult with her as needed. Hope this helped a little.
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