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Post by gale w on Nov 28, 2018 19:55:06 GMT
I searched but didn't find any other recent threads about them. Our 11 yr old dishwasher started to leak out one side. We thought it might have been the seal so we replaced that ($45  ) and it's still leaking. So apparently not the seal. This is a terrible time to have to spend a lot of money. Anyway, what features are must-haves for you? We have an open concept house so I would love a quiet one, and a 3rd tray might come in handy although I've been living without it all this time so if it's more of a pain maybe not. What do you love/hate about your dishwasher? What (reasonably priced) brands do you prefer? |
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Post by ntsf on Nov 28, 2018 20:06:55 GMT
a lower end.. all metal inside bosch. takes awhile. but works time after time. stops itself if there is an obstruction. and is quiet. and the repair guys love them
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Post by breetheflea on Nov 28, 2018 20:08:16 GMT
We are not happy with our Bosch and have had a repairman out once, and fixed it ourselves about once a month. DH kept taking the 3rd rack out, so it's in the garage...
If everyone recommends Bosch, maybe we are just cursed with dishwashers. We've had 5 in 14 years, the Bosch replaced the dishwasher that was here when we moved in. It was from 1992, and we killed it...
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Post by Belle on Nov 28, 2018 20:27:43 GMT
I wouldn't get a Whirlpool.....
Our Whirlpool is terrible. "Stuff" gets stuck in the arm sprayers. Yuck! Not sure where the stuff comes from because we rinse our dishes really well...had to remove the spray arms and clean them out with pipe cleaners. Then we noticed "gunk" building up around the air vent so DH pulled that off and was horrified by all the stuff in there. Now, the white vinyl coating on the individual tines in the racks are wearing off and so the metal is rusting and leaving rust spots on my white dishes. To order a new rack would cost close to $120...and there are 2 racks. We have ordered some paint on stuff and caps to see if that will fix the rust but we will have to sand down the tines before doing anything to them.
Definitely look for a DW that does not recycle water - I hear the European brands do not recycle water and the USA brands do. Also, you will want dish racks made out of stainless steel...
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Post by moodyblue on Nov 28, 2018 20:31:12 GMT
We have a KitchenAid Tall Tub with stainless interior. It's very quiet and we've been generally pleased with it.
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Post by gale w on Nov 28, 2018 20:32:11 GMT
Our current one is a kenmore/whirlpool. What are the European brands? Recycle water? I don't like the sound of that...
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Post by snyder on Nov 28, 2018 20:48:33 GMT
Knocking on wood here, but I have a Maytag that we bought when we bought this home 26 years ago with absolutely no repairs. Some may think ewe, but it looks like a typical built in dishwasher. Doesn't look dated at all. I love it as it has a great design for getting the most out of space. I can't stand my mom's as it doesn't hold half of what mine does. I think I would also tire of the 3rd rack. Sound great, but does cut space for your taller glassware or a few bowls that didn't fit on the bottom. Most look like you have to put the tableware in the individual slots. Way to time consuming for me. Grab a handful and put in silverware holder all at ones. I put my tableware handle up, and use Cascade detergent and never have and issue with them not getting clean. They are down there close to the water spray, whereas the 3rd tray is the furthest away from the spray, so they might not always get clean. If I were buy today, I would stick with Maytag since this one has a proven record!
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Post by gale w on Nov 28, 2018 21:04:33 GMT
I thought the 3rd tray was in addition to the standard silverware holder. Like for cooking utensils. I'm rethinking the 3rd tray. I tend to tetris my dishes into the dishwasher and I need every spare inch.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Nov 28, 2018 21:07:28 GMT
We were getting our house ready to sell when our 17 yr old dishwasher decided die. Not wanting to put a lot into it and the possibility of a buyer wanting to redo the kitchen anyways, we just went with the lower end Bosch from Lowe's. That dishwasher was AWESOME and I was kicking myself for not getting rid of the crappy GE much earlier so I could have enjoyed the Bosch for longer.
The Bosch was so much quieter than the GE. Our kitchen was open to the living room and the GE dishwasher was so loud you couldn't run it if you were watching TV. The Bosch you couldn't hear a thing. It did take a long time for a cycle, but I think most are that way now with the high efficiency stuff.
We got the cheapest one and were so impressed, I can only imagine how much better the slightly better or higher end ones are.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Nov 28, 2018 21:10:34 GMT
We have had our current Bosch for 6 years and love it. It replaced a 10 year old Bosch that I moved to my mom's and it was still working well when we sold that house 2 years ago. The other brand I would look at would be Miele. We had one in Paris and it did a great job. One thing I prefer about the European brands is that they have no heating element which means that you can put plastics on the bottom rack. They do take longer to run a cycle but that hasn't been an issue. They have an Express cycle if you are in a hurry, as well as a half load cycle.
My must have features are extreme quite when operating, the 3rd rack and a stainless interior.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Nov 28, 2018 21:15:24 GMT
I thought the 3rd tray was in addition to the standard silverware holder. My Bosch came with a regular silverware holder that lives under the sink because I never use it. You can see the three types of Bosch 3rd racks here. Also keep in mind that the middle rack is adjustable in height. I've never had an issue with height and tend to fill that thing as full as possible. |
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Post by smartypants71 on Nov 28, 2018 21:16:50 GMT
I have a Frigidaire dishwasher that is original to my house (2005). I want a new one so bad because it's louder than I like, but this thing will not die! So from a reliability standpoint, I'd recommend that brand. I would imagine that the new ones are much quieter.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 28, 2018 21:18:30 GMT
I bought my first Bosch for my old condo, so when I moved into this one last year I also bought a Bosch. This model has the third tray and while I wasn't looking for a DW with it, I love it now that I have it. I keep it at the highest location, but it's perfect for those extra-long cooking utensils, plastic cat food lids, little bowls that I use for ingrediants when cooking, reusable straws, and lids for water bottles.
My main floor is completely open and most of the time you don't hear it at all, I have to look on the floor to see if the red light is lit to know whether it's still running or not.
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Post by gale w on Nov 28, 2018 21:22:41 GMT
We have had our current Bosch for 6 years and love it. It replaced a 10 year old Bosch that I moved to my mom's and it was still working well when we sold that house 2 years ago. The other brand I would look at would be Miele. We had one in Paris and it did a great job. One thing I prefer about the European brands is that they have no heating element which means that you can put plastics on the bottom rack. They do take longer to run a cycle but that hasn't been an issue. They have an Express cycle if you are in a hurry, as well as a half load cycle. My must have features are extreme quite when operating, the 3rd rack and a stainless interior. Do they still heat the water and heat to dry? I use the sanitize cycle a lot which requires the water to be heated. |
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Nov 28, 2018 22:03:41 GMT
Do they still heat the water and heat to dry? I use the sanitize cycle a lot which requires the water to be heated. Bosch dishwashers use a condensation drying process. You can read the details of how it works here. The water is heated in a small heating chamber, then pumped into the dishwasher, so the water is already hot when it gets to your dishes. With the heating elements in the bottom, the water is pumped in and then heated. |
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Post by basketdiva on Nov 28, 2018 22:50:07 GMT
I thought the 3rd tray was in addition to the standard silverware holder. Like for cooking utensils. I'm rethinking the 3rd tray. I tend to tetris my dishes into the dishwasher and I need every spare inch. I removed the standard silverware holder and use the top tray. Now I have more room om the bottom rack.
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Post by refugeepea on Nov 28, 2018 22:58:21 GMT
I wouldn't get a Whirlpool..... We have a whirlpool and are not happy either. No matter what cycle you choose, the top rack never dries. It takes numerous times opening and shutting the door, and pushing the start button to get it to start running. I do like that the silverware holder is on the inside of the door. More room on the bottom. |
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Post by mygigiscraps on Nov 28, 2018 23:25:23 GMT
We were getting our house ready to sell when our 17 yr old dishwasher decided die. Not wanting to put a lot into it and the possibility of a buyer wanting to redo the kitchen anyways, we just went with the lower end Bosch from Lowe's. That dishwasher was AWESOME and I was kicking myself for not getting rid of the crappy GE much earlier so I could have enjoyed the Bosch for longer. I also replaced a GE with the lower end Bosch from Lowe's. It's been absolutely great so far. I have zero regrets about buying it. |
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Post by cadoodlebug on Nov 28, 2018 23:30:44 GMT
Love our Bosch. Thought our GE was good until we got the Bosch. Hardly know it's on except when the water drains. LOVE the 3rd tray for silverware. LOVE it!
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Post by swimchick1984 on Nov 28, 2018 23:35:07 GMT
We just bought a Bosch, I love it so much. Our old dishwasher you had to turn up the TV while it was running. The Bosch you cannot even hear it when the TV is on. We also have removed the silver ware tray and just use the third rack.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Nov 28, 2018 23:36:44 GMT
I wouldn't get a Whirlpool..... Our Whirlpool is terrible. "Stuff" gets stuck in the arm sprayers. Yuck! Not sure where the stuff comes from because we rinse our dishes really well...had to remove the spray arms and clean them out with pipe cleaners. Then we noticed "gunk" building up around the air vent so DH pulled that off and was horrified by all the stuff in there. Now, the white vinyl coating on the individual tines in the racks are wearing off and so the metal is rusting and leaving rust spots on my white dishes. To order a new rack would cost close to $120...and there are 2 racks. We have ordered some paint on stuff and caps to see if that will fix the rust but we will have to sand down the tines before doing anything to them. Definitely look for a DW that does not recycle water - I hear the European brands do not recycle water and the USA brands do. Also, you will want dish racks made out of stainless steel... Newer dishwashers are made to work best when you just scrape the solid stuff off and do not rinse! When you rinse, the *sensors* think the dishes are clean and it screws up the cycles. |
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Post by Gennifer on Nov 29, 2018 0:10:17 GMT
Miele.
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Post by gale w on Nov 29, 2018 0:29:08 GMT
It looks like the Bosch series 100 and 300 are pretty reasonably priced and some have the 3rd tray options. I'd rather not have the bar handle since it's right in a high traffic area-does anyone who has these with the bar handle find they stick out so far that people bump into them? The 100 have the bar handle and the 300 have the recessed handle.
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Post by pjynx on Nov 29, 2018 2:46:35 GMT
I have a Bosch and its so quiet that I can only tell it’s on if I look at the small red light it projects onto the floor when on. I love using the top rack (the “3rd” rack) for my nylon kitchen utensils and love that the middle rack has an adjustable height.
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Post by snyder on Nov 29, 2018 2:52:00 GMT
I thought the 3rd tray was in addition to the standard silverware holder. Like for cooking utensils. I'm rethinking the 3rd tray. I tend to tetris my dishes into the dishwasher and I need every spare inch. Maybe, but the ones that I have seen, the tray did away with the silverware holder to give more room for bigger items. |
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Post by Florida Cindy on Nov 29, 2018 13:18:22 GMT
Matag! Best dishwasher I've purchased in my life.
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Post by delila on Nov 29, 2018 14:58:57 GMT
I have a Fisher & Paykel 2 drawer system & a Thermador & love them both. The Fisher & Paykel drawer system is amazing bc I can run them independently or run them together so I can run just a small load or run the big dishwasher & run a big load.
All 3 machines are extremely quiet & I would not even know they were on if wasn’t a light that reflects onto the floor from the Thermador.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Nov 29, 2018 15:47:41 GMT
I have a Fisher & Paykel 2 drawer system & a Thermador & love them both. Thermador is a subsidiary of Bosch. Bosch manufacturers their dishwashers and puts the Thermador label on them. |
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Post by belgravia on Nov 29, 2018 16:25:00 GMT
We have a Miele that we love. The top utensil rack is awesome, and it’s so quiet that we can barely hear it running in our very open plan main floor. Gets the dishes clean and has given us no issues.
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Post by gale w on Nov 29, 2018 23:08:33 GMT
Thanks everyone. I ordered one of the lower end bosch units (with the 3rd tray) and we'll pick it up tomorrow. I would have loved to have a higher end one but it's not really in the budget and I have a feeling even the lower end ones will be better than what we've had.  |
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) and it's still leaking. So apparently not the seal. This is a terrible time to have to spend a lot of money. Anyway, what features are must-haves for you? We have an open concept house so I would love a quiet one, and a 3rd tray might come in handy although I've been living without it all this time so if it's more of a pain maybe not. What do you love/hate about your dishwasher? What (reasonably priced) brands do you prefer? 
