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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 14:28:19 GMT
" Hundreds of LuLaRoe sellers have said they've been waiting months, some more than a year, for refund checks after exiting the business. Now, speculation is swirling among these sellers that the cause of the refund delays is simply that LuLaRoe does not have the money to pay back the tens of thousands of people who have recently left the business, according to discussions among current and former consultants in private online forums with several thousand members. A Business Insider investigation involving interviews with more than two-dozen current and former consultants in the past two months has revealed evidence that suggests LuLaRoe's business is in peril.... The company also lost its head of design and production, Patrick Winget, in September, and it's facing mounting complaints about out-of-stock problems and quality issues with its clothing. The exodus of sellers and the volume of inventory returns are creating unprecedented internal tension, insiders said... Stidham told sellers to "charity out" prints that wouldn't sell — in other words, they should give them away free or at a discount. Three sellers described Stidham as "yelling" on the call. "So we pay full price to you but have to donate and discount?" one seller asked in a live online chat with others on the call, according to a transcript of the discussion reviewed by Business Insider. " www.businessinsider.com/lularoe-legging-empire-mounting-debt-top-sellers-flee-2018-11also LuLaRoe supplier sues for $49 million and accuses the company's founders of hiding assets in 'shell' companies www.businessinsider.com/lularoe-lawsuit-supplier-sues-for-49-million-2018-12 |
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ComplicatedLady
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Dec 2, 2018 16:05:28 GMT
The drama keeps getting worse and worse.
I feel badly for the people who have been waiting months for refund checks.
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 2, 2018 16:27:18 GMT
And they wonder why people sell the crap for a discount instead of sending it back.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Dec 2, 2018 17:07:33 GMT
What's always infuriating about these scenarios is that the people at the top will walk away rich while all the suffering and financial loss is absorbed by the people at the bottom who can least afford it.
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StephDRebel
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Post by StephDRebel on Dec 2, 2018 18:13:59 GMT
This has been a sinking ship from the start. Its incredibly sad the lawsuit wording is horrific
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Post by mom on Dec 2, 2018 18:23:20 GMT
I am surprised that they even have anyone still selling their crap. 🤷♀️ The writing has been on the wall for awhile now. Their business model sucks.
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PrettyInPeank
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Dec 2, 2018 20:00:24 GMT
I wish it was illegal to keep personal profits to try and keep your business afloat while denying refunds over a year until oops...guess we're bankrupt, sorry for you. 🤷♀️
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Dec 2, 2018 20:06:45 GMT
I am surprised that they even have anyone still selling their crap. 🤷♀️ The writing has been on the wall for awhile now. Their business model sucks. I agree, a business model that doesn’t allow you to completely pick your own inventory while saturating the markets with consultants, seems inevitably doomed to failure to me. |
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Dec 2, 2018 20:28:48 GMT
I am surprised that they even have anyone still selling their crap. 🤷♀️ The writing has been on the wall for awhile now. Their business model sucks. I agree, a business model that doesn’t allow you to completely pick your own inventory while saturating the markets with consultants, seems inevitably doomed to failure to me. This is what made me go all "WTAF!?" when I learned about Lularoe. I thought some of the designs were cute and would have paid the ridiculous price for the ones I wanted. Then I learned you can't actually buy the item you want. Seriously, you couldn't just have the consultant order the pattern & size you want. Many consultants had a FB page where you had 15 minutes to pay for whatever pattern/size the consultant was offering that moment, but you couldn't just, yanno, place an order and get what you want. How anyone thought that would last as a business model is beyond me. |
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Peamac
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Post by Peamac on Dec 2, 2018 20:38:52 GMT
Word on the street (a LLR Defective FB group) is that the legal firm that MyDyer is using is one of the best in the country. ALso, that law firm doesn't accept cases they don't think they'll win.
Recently LLR switched to using FedEx for shipping their clothes to their "retailers". Now we know (from the MyDYer legal papers) that LLR owes I think $1 million to UPS (their shipper for the last several years).
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melissa
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Post by melissa on Dec 2, 2018 20:47:05 GMT
They certainly grew too quickly with a questionable business model. I know one seller who is still in business and seems to still be successful. She definitely works her business. Not someone local. It didn't really take off locally as much as it seemed to in other parts of the country.
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Dec 2, 2018 21:02:38 GMT
I agree, a business model that doesn’t allow you to completely pick your own inventory while saturating the markets with consultants, seems inevitably doomed to failure to me. This is what made me go all "WTAF!?" when I learned about Lularoe. I thought some of the designs were cute and would have paid the ridiculous price for the ones I wanted. Then I learned you can't actually buy the item you want. Seriously, you couldn't just have the consultant order the pattern & size you want. Many consultants had a FB page where you had 15 minutes to pay for whatever pattern/size the consultant was offering that moment, but you couldn't just, yanno, place an order and get what you want. How anyone thought that would last as a business model is beyond me. Exactly! That always slayed me about them. IF I liked their stuff, I couldn’t just order what I liked. And it was all mostly gaudy to me, the lack of solids baffled me. Like IF I was going to wear something that patterned, I’d put a solid with it. Instead all their looks showed women with often clashing patterns. WTF? Buttery soft or not, I never got that. That whole business model has smacked of shadiness, from the get go. It was never a surprise when it turned out they were outright stealing some of the patterns, and stuff like that. |
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Post by sassyangel on Dec 2, 2018 21:07:45 GMT
And then when they bought out solid black finally (their noir collection), they turned out to be dyed pattens that didn’t sell. So brazen.
Even if the model of business of an MLM isn’t for me, there are some that at least seem like they’re ethical, at least based on their longevity. Lularoe has always seemed like a fly by night operation.
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 2, 2018 21:13:17 GMT
And then when they bought out solid black finally (their noir collection), they turned out to be dyed pattens that didn’t sell. So brazen. Even if the model of business of an MLM isn’t for me, there are some that at least seem like they’re ethical, at least based on their longevity. Lularoe has always seemed like a fly by night operation. I had no idea their black collection was just dyed failed patterns. Could you see the pattern through the black? |
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Dec 2, 2018 21:45:03 GMT
And then when they bought out solid black finally (their noir collection), they turned out to be dyed pattens that didn’t sell. So brazen. They legit took old inventory and dyed over the top of it?!? |
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Post by mom on Dec 2, 2018 22:24:58 GMT
And then when they bought out solid black finally (their noir collection), they turned out to be dyed pattens that didn’t sell. So brazen. Even if the model of business of an MLM isn’t for me, there are some that at least seem like they’re ethical, at least based on their longevity. Lularoe has always seemed like a fly by night operation. I had no idea their black collection was just dyed failed patterns. Could you see the pattern through the black? Yes you could on some of the patterns. |
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Post by mom on Dec 2, 2018 22:25:16 GMT
And then when they bought out solid black finally (their noir collection), they turned out to be dyed pattens that didn’t sell. So brazen. They legit took old inventory and dyed over the top of it?!? yes! |
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Post by pierkiss on Dec 2, 2018 22:28:26 GMT
I agree, a business model that doesn’t allow you to completely pick your own inventory while saturating the markets with consultants, seems inevitably doomed to failure to me. This is what made me go all "WTAF!?" when I learned about Lularoe. I thought some of the designs were cute and would have paid the ridiculous price for the ones I wanted. Then I learned you can't actually buy the item you want. Seriously, you couldn't just have the consultant order the pattern & size you want. Many consultants had a FB page where you had 15 minutes to pay for whatever pattern/size the consultant was offering that moment, but you couldn't just, yanno, place an order and get what you want. How anyone thought that would last as a business model is beyond me. That right there is the main reason I never bought anything from lularoe. It is the most fucked up ordering system I have ever heard of. |
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Post by Country Ham on Dec 3, 2018 0:55:42 GMT
Lularoe is not the only ones to do that. I have seen many facebook boutique clothing pages where sellers have the same format. They have a couple of sizes in select colors and thats the only stock they have.
I don't feel badly for the people at the bottom of the totem pole. Every time someone has approached me about joining a sales team I was told the whole thing up front about start up costs, innovatory, sales expectations etc. I have never signed up to sell anything. Do people really go into these things with their eyes closed?
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Post by trollie on Dec 3, 2018 0:59:30 GMT
I agree, a business model that doesn’t allow you to completely pick your own inventory while saturating the markets with consultants, seems inevitably doomed to failure to me. This is what made me go all "WTAF!?" when I learned about Lularoe. I thought some of the designs were cute and would have paid the ridiculous price for the ones I wanted. Then I learned you can't actually buy the item you want. Seriously, you couldn't just have the consultant order the pattern & size you want. Many consultants had a FB page where you had 15 minutes to pay for whatever pattern/size the consultant was offering that moment, but you couldn't just, yanno, place an order and get what you want. How anyone thought that would last as a business model is beyond me. That is weird! |
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Post by beepdave on Dec 3, 2018 0:59:35 GMT
Do people really go into these things with their eyes closed? Yes! MLMs are predatory in the fact that they sell "The Dream" to these women. They are under the impression they are owning their own businesses and have all the freedom in the world. That is the saddest part for me. |
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Post by chances on Dec 3, 2018 1:04:43 GMT
I had no idea their black collection was just dyed failed patterns. Could you see the pattern through the black? Yes you could on some of the patterns. 😮😮 omg! That's just... Wow. |
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Post by beepdave on Dec 3, 2018 1:06:50 GMT
Word on the street (a LLR Defective FB group) That group is fascinating and I've been reading it for months. I really feel horrible for so many of the ladies in there who were trying to make their families' lives better, but in fact, made things far worse because their uplines kept telling them that the product/patterns weren't bad, but that they were not working their businesses hard enough, so they kept ordering and ordering with the hopes they'd get crap their customers would want. TERRIBLE business model and far more women failed than succeeded, and unlike lots of other MLMs, these ladies are stuck with tens of thousands of unsellable inventory. |
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Post by pierkiss on Dec 3, 2018 1:07:23 GMT
Lularoe is not the only ones to do that. I have seen many facebook boutique clothing pages where sellers have the same format. They have a couple of sizes in select colors and thats the only stock they have. I don't feel badly for the people at the bottom of the totem pole. Every time someone has approached me about joining a sales team I was told the whole thing up front about start up costs, innovatory, sales expectations etc. I have never signed up to sell anything. Do people really go into these things with their eyes closed? I’ve seen it with other companies as well. I think there’s one on instagram that’s called something wolf or fox. The difference with them though, is that they are hand crafting their product. They can only make so many size T4 dresses with their small production team. They’re not mass producing from China or Vietnam. They’re also not hiring 1000s of consultants to peddle everything that comes their way. But, even when the smaller shops run sales like this, I don’t participate. I’m not going to drive myself bonkers hitting the refresh button repeatedly right at 7pm in the hopes I can snag a dress in my daughters size on a Tuesday evening. That’s just not something I am going to do for an article of clothing. |
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Post by julie5 on Dec 3, 2018 1:13:10 GMT
Yes you could on some of the patterns. 😮😮 omg! That's just... Wow. Holy wow I had no idea that’s what noir was! Yikes!! |
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Post by beepdave on Dec 3, 2018 1:15:23 GMT
😮😮 omg! That's just... Wow. Holy wow I had no idea that’s what noir was! Yikes!! And the black wore off on everything, including the wearer and their chairs/car seats/purses, etc. No amount of washing stopped the bleeding! |
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MsKnit
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Post by MsKnit on Dec 3, 2018 1:35:59 GMT
Not surprised.
Did Longaberger ever make things right with their consultants and customers? Last I heard, people were waiting for months to receive product. Some were still waiting when the announcement was made that they were shutting down.
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Post by prapea on Dec 3, 2018 1:55:16 GMT
Can someone link me to that defective lularoe fb group that everyone talks about? Thanks
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Post by beepdave on Dec 3, 2018 2:21:47 GMT
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Post by LeaP on Dec 3, 2018 2:49:29 GMT
And then when they bought out solid black finally (their noir collection), they turned out to be dyed pattens that didn’t sell. So brazen. Possibly dumb question, but they dyed patterned clothes black? The original cloth wasn't black?
(Disclaimer, I don't think I have ever seen the actual merchandise)
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