scrapnnana
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Post by scrapnnana on Dec 7, 2018 16:26:06 GMT
I think it kind of depends on when you started in this hobby, but since I started back in 1996, I view traditional scrapbooking as anywhere from one to several pictures per layout, with journaling, and some kind of decoration. Pages could be any size. Pocket pages were sometimes used in photo albums, but they weren't what I thought of as scrapbooking till a scrapbook celeb found a way to make them more attractive and appealing.
I view scrapbooking today as a blend of photos and artistic expression. Art mediums are often used, and the photo is often just a small accent on the page.
I found my own preferred style several years ago. I don't use sketches. Although I enjoy seeing how other people scrapbook, I don't need "inspiration" to do a layout other than my pictures and supplies. I do think of myself as a traditional scrapbooker, although I am sure that some here see my pages and think I am stuck in the past because my style is definitely not current or trendy. I don't use art mediums on my pages, although I think they are great for cards.
A long time ago someone described my style as "clean and classic." While my style has evolved a bit since then, it's still very traditional as I define it.
So now I am curious as to what "traditional scrapbooking" really is. How do YOU define it, and when did you start scrapbooking, because I think that is going to be a factor.
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Post by GiantsFan on Dec 7, 2018 16:54:19 GMT
Interesting question. In the big sense of it, I think traditional scrapbooking as pages in book format with some type of memorabilia, a photo and a note with journaling. It doesn't matter what format or size. Basically some type of memory keeping.
The first scrapbookers kept a lock of hair, a pressed flower, a name card, maybe a photo (if they were lucky to have one). Circa 19th and early 20th century, maybe earlier. That evolved into books of photos using photo corners, then to the sticky pages and plastic photo pockets of the 70's. Both of those may have come before the 70's but that's when I remember them. And I have quite a few of these "sticky" album from my childhood. Photos with hand-written titles (what I call journaling, since I rarely journal. To this day a title and a date is good enough for me!)
I came on the current trend in scrapbooking in 2006. Pages with background papers, ephemera and such. In 2009 I started digi.
Again, to me traditional scrapbooking is just memory keeping. There is no right or wrong way.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Dec 7, 2018 17:51:55 GMT
For me, traditional scrapbooking means that paper is used. Doesn't matter the size of album.
I feel that scrapbooking will always be evolving for me. But the common denominator for me is that I've always put photos and memorabilia on paper.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Dec 7, 2018 18:54:39 GMT
My definition of scrapbooking is very broad. A collection of “pages” containing a photo and/or memorabilia, and to keep from being considered the much maligned “photo album” there should be some form of decoration. That’s what I believe they mean by “scraps”. Traditional means it’s in physical book form.
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Post by grammadee on Dec 7, 2018 19:23:05 GMT
I think that, for me, traditional scrapbooking means much what it does for you, scrapnnana. A page can be any size, but it is comprised of some combination of cardstock and patterned paper, it has on it at least one photo, a title, and some journaling. So even if I add LOTS of layers of pp &/or cs, or lather on the mixed media, if my page has photo(s), title, and journaling, it is still a "traditional" page for me. I guess I see the line that traditional is NOT pocket scrapbooking, and it is NOT digital. It is created, layer by layer, with my hands. I may create my own embellishments, use ephemera &/or keepsakes, add ribbon or washi or twine or any number of pre made elements. But as long as my LO maintains the basic formula in my mind it is a traditional scrapbook page. Styles, materials, tools, and supplies change. But if I am playing with paper and telling stories, I am scrapbooking.
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Post by ILoveToScrapPea on Dec 7, 2018 19:32:38 GMT
I started traditional scrapbooking in 2001. For me, it’s about 2 or 3 pics, creative title, whether Silhouette generated or any other way, good journaling, & embellishments, whether that be 1, 3-5, or more. I’ve looked back on the mags I have & I enjoy the layouts that are like those I’ve just described. And I especially like my pics to be 4x4 & 4x6, & 5x7. I’m really not into mixed media for my pages. I like it for cards. Don’t get me wrong, I like how it looks but I fear what that would do to my scrapbooks in the future. What I think of most in traditional scrapbooking are the memories being captured & expressed on a layout in a creative way that involves traditional yet updated supplies.
ETA: I’m silly for not thinking of this sooner. Traditional scrapbooks are/were acid free!!!! Also people used products like scrappagerz stencils for titles in AWFUL fonts. To this day, I’m afraid people that view my scrapbooks won’t understand or be able to see my page titles. That’s what I remember from 2001/2002, a time when scrapbooking was so popular & that’s just a lil of what I’d refer to as traditional scrapbooking.
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Post by scrapnnana on Dec 7, 2018 19:48:49 GMT
I agree that there is no right or wrong way to scrapbook.
I don't question that scrapbooking was originally often about keeping the memories, the photos, and memorabilia together. My mother kept a book of photos with a little journaling. Her pictures were held in with corners or were glued to the black paper. After a family reunion in the 80's, the family member who hosted it provided everyone with a magnetic album that had pictures, journaling, and a little embellishment. When I found out how bad the magnetic albums were for photo preservation, I got them into a better album and did my own embellishments.
What scrapbooking was when I started in 1996, is dramatically different than what it is today, although the basics are usually still there.
Words matter for communication, and when one person defines traditional scrapbooking as something different than what their listener thinks it is, the ideas are not always communicated the way they were meant.
I think the word traditional can be pretty broad, and not just limited to a particular period of time, which is why I asked for what y'all think it is. For me it is just curiosity. I'm not going to be upset with anyone's interpretation of the word. I just want to understand the different ways people here see it.
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Post by amom23 on Dec 7, 2018 20:01:39 GMT
Hmmm....I'd probably define traditional scrapbooking as involving a physical album that included actual photos and journaling. Now what type of album and size is all up to the scrapper.
My sister is a digital scrapbooker. Her albums are beautiful and certainly include lots of journaling. Her way of documenting her family suits her.
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Post by cbscrapper on Dec 8, 2018 3:37:18 GMT
When I use the term traditional scrapbooking, I generally mean paper format, vs digital or pocket page or planner or travelers notebook.
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Post by ILoveToScrapPea on Dec 8, 2018 4:14:13 GMT
cbscrapper: I wish I had just said what you did!! Thanks, much simpler. That’s why I love being a pea.
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Post by scrappyem on Dec 8, 2018 14:13:04 GMT
The first scrapbookers kept a lock of hair, a pressed flower, a name card, maybe a photo (if they were lucky to have one). Circa 19th and early 20th century, maybe earlier. That evolved into books of photos using photo corners, then to the sticky pages and plastic photo pockets of the 70's. Both of those may have come before the 70's but that's when I remember them. And I have quite a few of these "sticky" album from my childhood. Photos with hand-written titles (what I call journaling, since I rarely journal. To this day a title and a date is good enough for me!) My mom has this amazing scrapbook my great grandmother made around the 1930's-50's. It's full of name cards, some articles, and other bits and pieces pressed in the pages. It's a big size, my 11x14 or even larger. I loved it as a kid. I consider that her scrapbook. In a way, I think of that as traditional scrapbooking. In terms of modern traditional scrapbooking, to me that is 12x12 regardless of what you put on the page. Interesting to see how the peas define it. It all counts to me & I love it. I did some scrapping around 2002, then quit, then came back with Project Life in 2013. I'm so grateful to have found it again and to have the last 5 years documented.
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Post by Embri on Dec 9, 2018 6:48:01 GMT
Traditional Scrapbooking: The craft that generates all sorts of fun supplies and tools that I get to use for other things! If I have to be serious, any kind of album/book with pictures, words and a bunch of extraneous decoration that is capable of embarrassing its subject person(s) when shown off to non-relatives.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 12:17:29 GMT
If you love photos, memorablia,and doing stuff with them, you're 1 of us!
I've met a few people or heard about them, that don't care about photos, and I don't understand that at all. They have lost or thrown away or have in storage or given them back to the people who gave them to them.
I've loved them since I was very young, way before I ever even knew there was such a thing as scrapbookng.
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Post by julie5 on Dec 9, 2018 13:52:51 GMT
I think the wonderful thing about this hobby is that it’s fluid. It changes with you and your life events.
For me it’s simple: pictures and stories and dates. Everything else is just icing.
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Post by Embri on Dec 9, 2018 21:47:03 GMT
If you love photos, memorablia,and doing stuff with them, you're 1 of us! I've met a few people or heard about them, that don't care about photos, and I don't understand that at all. They have lost or thrown away or have in storage or given them back to the people who gave them to them. I'm one of those fabled 'don't care about photos' folks. I don't think there are many, if any, pictures of me for most of my life, and I prefer it that way. Don't use social media, don't own a phone. There's nothing I want to document for posterity anyways. But I sure do love a lot of the 12x12" paper that's out there for finishing my custom boxes!
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Post by myboysnme on Dec 10, 2018 1:11:09 GMT
It depends on the context of the discussion. For the most part I would say, keeping photos and memorabilia in a memory keeping format using materials made for that purpose.
If I was going to look at scrapbook layouts and define some as traditional, they would be flat, with journalling and possibly stickers or die cuts. There might be photos cut in shapes( though hopefully not). There may be a catchy title and borders or punches.
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Post by scrapnnana on Dec 10, 2018 14:36:15 GMT
If you love photos, memorablia,and doing stuff with them, you're 1 of us! I've met a few people or heard about them, that don't care about photos, and I don't understand that at all. They have lost or thrown away or have in storage or given them back to the people who gave them to them. I'm one of those fabled 'don't care about photos' folks. I don't think there are many, if any, pictures of me for most of my life, and I prefer it that way. Don't use social media, don't own a phone. There's nothing I want to document for posterity anyways. But I sure do love a lot of the 12x12" paper that's out there for finishing my custom boxes! I use my pretty papers as much for making other fun paper projects as I do for scrapbooking. I make mini albums that will never have a photo on any of the pages. I want to start making the Tim Holtz type of paper houses, too. I bought his dies for it. Do you have your boxes in the gallery here or online somewhere? I'm not into making boxes, but I'd love to see your creations.
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Post by Embri on Dec 10, 2018 20:08:19 GMT
I don't have any pictures or a gallery; not really a 'document things' kind of person, sorry! They're not very exciting anyways, just basic slip cover boxes with linen paper for the bottom wrap, and a printed graphics wrap on top for storing my PnP board games, mostly. If you're really curious I could probably scrounge up a camera and try to get a half-decent picture or two.
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Post by papersilly on Dec 10, 2018 23:25:38 GMT
to me, it goes back to high school-esque memory keeping. clipping articles or alphabets from letters or magazine to make your titles. adding ticket stubs or other memorabilia onto the page. embellishments are what you had on hand. nothing coordinated. you know, old school scrapbooking.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Dec 10, 2018 23:34:09 GMT
To me, "traditional" scrapbooking is the style of yesteryear. Items(letters, trinkets, memorabilia photos, etc...) the "scrapbook" may not be an actual scrapbook, but in some cases a chest, trunk or box.
I started scrapbooking in late 1996. I didn't have many photos, the first part of my adult life(20's) was very much camcorder/video everything. Then I was introduced to scrapbooking. Bought an inexpensive camera (110 film << old school! Have since moved on to 35ml film and now digital camera.
I started scrapbooking 8.5 x 11, and that is what I still do. When I started, it was the phase of sticker sneeze, matted photo and plain card stock. So for me, that is "my" traditional style of scrapbooking. But my style has evolved over the years. I am using stickers(without the "sneeze"), matted photo, and I have evolved to patterned paper(I like to mix and match patterns) and a little of the distressed look. My style is very much...cute, mix and match patterns, bright and primary color(no pastels). I scrapbooking in chronological order, year by year(some years take up two scrapbooks, some are in one scrapbook).
I am not one to jump on a bandwagon or follow the latest trend. If I like something that is new and the "latest and greatness", I incorporate into with my old school style.
I am a firm believer that scrapbook style is "to each, their own". There is no right or wrong way to scrapbook. They are my scrapbooks and I make them the way that I like. I don't care what anyone else thinks. If someone doesn't like my style, they don't need to bother viewing my scrapbooks.
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Post by nancydrew on Dec 11, 2018 11:29:40 GMT
If you love photos, memorablia,and doing stuff with them, you're 1 of us! I've met a few people or heard about them, that don't care about photos, and I don't understand that at all. They have lost or thrown away or have in storage or given them back to the people who gave them to them. I've loved them since I was very young, way before I ever even knew there was such a thing as scrapbookng. This is exactly my thoughts! I could have written this myself!!!
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Post by pennyscraps on Dec 12, 2018 21:51:11 GMT
I started scrapbooking as a girl, and then resumed it in 1994.
I think of traditional scrapbooking as making any form of layout with real supplies, and I think of digital scrapbooking as using only digi supplies. I don't really have a definition as to what a traditional layout should look like, as that all plays into our individual styles.
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