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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Dec 12, 2018 16:51:23 GMT
Too bad I donated my large dog crates years ago. They would have been perfect to move the cats in. I am going to order this Rescue Remedy today to try out on them at home first. Thank you for suggesting it, **GypsyGirl**. Start looking at local thrift stores and garage sales for the size carriers you need. I sometimes see them at my thrift store for as little as $10 each. Rescue Remedy was recommended to my by the breeder for our Belgian Sheepdog. I picked her up in Belgium when she was 8 weeks old and had to fly back to Houston with her, as well as a second puppy for someone in Dallas. Toss in a 10 year old and a 2.5 hr delay on the plane before takeoff. Thanks to having given them both RR, the trip went very smoothly. That was the one instance where I did remove them from the carrier. It was at the attendant's suggestion and only until we were ready to pull back from the gate. After they went back in the carriers they slept the entire trip.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Dec 12, 2018 16:57:30 GMT
I know statistically nothing will happen to my pet, but since I personally know two people that had something happen to their dogs, I will not fly my pets. Those instances are briefly explained below. One was a good outcome the other was not. One of our 4-H kids had her dog lost by the airline on her way home from the Westminster dog show. Romeo was found and they were reunited the next day. The person that handled my dog at our breed National show had one dog killed on the plane because he was put in the wrong part of the plane. The details are horrific and still brings me to tears. She still shows but most of the people that are associated with her and all in her kennel drive to shows. They drive from California to Florida just about every year for a major show. My choice would be to drive, carry on pets or hire a carrier that specializes in pet transport. I’m paranoid about my pets safety so I will only go to shows I can drive to. Though not sure that means much since we did a self move from Chicago to Seattle and dh drove a u-haul towing a bronco while I drove a car with two kids. He had our two cats in crates with him. Good luck in your decision, for me it’s a really tough one.
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Post by gale w on Dec 12, 2018 17:15:09 GMT
Check out this video by a well respected kitten rescuer. She moved her cats cross country a few months ago. It has all the info you need. m.youtube.com/watch?v=DpUL5ypsr_8That's the same video I posted above.
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Post by auntkelly on Dec 12, 2018 17:26:43 GMT
I've only had one experience flying a dog in cargo and it was a disaster. He was supposed to be on the same flight with us, flying from Louisville to Oklahoma City. We arrived in Oklahoma City mid morning and found out our dog was not in the cargo section He ended up flying to Alaska! We finally were able to pick him up at midnight. The poor dog had never been let out of his crate to relieve himself. We were flying on the Sunday after Thanksgiving so I'm sure that was part of the reason for the mess up. Also, this was twenty years ago, so hopefully things have gotten better. However, because of that experience, I wouldn't fly an animal in cargo unless it was absolutely necessary.
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Post by summer on Dec 12, 2018 17:51:35 GMT
I would never put an animal in cargo. I would never be separated from my pet either. I’d either fly and have the carrier under my seat or drive, no matter how far. Too many horror stories. I’d be with my pet at all times.
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Post by mellyw on Dec 12, 2018 18:29:47 GMT
I’ve flown with cats from Japan to the U.S, drove with that cat for 6 hours, then flew from Indiana to England. He flew cargo the whole way. I worried endlessly, I admit. And it about broke me when he was stuck in Atlanta due to heat, and had to take a later flight to Detroit, but he made it just fine. He never liked me, and didn’t like me after. Moved another cat from England to Seattle, then drove her to Spokane. Cargo again, and she did fine. Next move, we drove two cats from Spokane to St. Louis. Yeah, I’d rather fly them. That was rough. My boy cat was not a happy camper! Good luck with whatever you decide, and I hope you enjoy Arizona. I loved living there, and I’m looking forward to some more wonderful pictures of your family adventures!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 18:43:28 GMT
I would decide based on how your cats react to going in the carrier for a visit to the vet. I will tell you that my cat is instantly terrified when he sees the carrier and when placed in it, starts whining and crying. Because he is so afraid, he sometimes poops or pees in his carrier. If I were a passenger next to you, I'd be really unhappy about that.
When we moved 8+ hours away, we got a large dog cage for the cat. We put a cardboard box in it that he could hide in, placed it in the back of the van and covered it with a sheet. He thought he was invisible and slept the entire way. That was the least amount of stress for him.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Dec 12, 2018 18:49:53 GMT
I have no advice because thankfully I have never had to do this, but I’m a helicopter cat mom and I would never be comfortable letting them out of my sight. Good luck with whatever option you decide to go with! And congrats on the move! Sounds exciting! this would be me, too... I was actually going to suggest driving them, till I read that you're going from NY to AZ. I think I'd try to figure out how to fly them in the cabin, truthfully. I would torture myself imagining all sorts of horrible things happening to them in the cargo area. We drove with our cats from Chicago to AZ and they were okay just being in the carrier most of the day and only using the litter box later in the day when we stopped for the night, so I would imagine once your cats are 'settled' in the carrier (if they're tranquilized in some manner, which I'd also probably do) they'll be okay for the flight. Because he is so afraid, he sometimes poops or pees in his carrier. If I were a passenger next to you, I'd be really unhappy about that. I think it depends on the passengers around you- I'd probably not like it, but I'm a paranoid pet owner so I'd probably be as understanding as possible about it. And also because kids on planes can cause the same sorts of 'odor' problems and ruckus.
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Post by smcast on Dec 12, 2018 18:54:45 GMT
My husband is allergic and I don't like cats so we prefer not to have one next to us on a plane. Sitting that close to a stranger is bad enough.
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Post by Lexica on Dec 12, 2018 18:59:51 GMT
I've only had one experience flying a dog in cargo and it was a disaster. He was supposed to be on the same flight with us, flying from Louisville to Oklahoma City. We arrived in Oklahoma City mid morning and found out our dog was not in the cargo section He ended up flying to Alaska! We finally were able to pick him up at midnight. The poor dog had never been let out of his crate to relieve himself. We were flying on the Sunday after Thanksgiving so I'm sure that was part of the reason for the mess up. Also, this was twenty years ago, so hopefully things have gotten better. However, because of that experience, I wouldn't fly an animal in cargo unless it was absolutely necessary. Oh no! I can't imagine! Having my dog end up in Alaska would have terrified me! Or infuriate me. Probably both. I would have insisted they fly me to Alaska to get him immediately and carry him back on my lap during the return flight. Did they offer a refund on the fee they charged you or anything to make up for the time you wasted in having to either wait at the airport or return to the airport to get your dog? What if that was just a connecting flight for you? You would have had to decide whether to go on ahead and hope your dog turned up or skip that flight and wait at the airport. Mine is a small little guy and his breed has some separation anxiety issues. He's okay when left at my home, but the longest he has ever been away from me is 4 hours while at the groomers. And he likes them. It is a husband and wife and the wife always talks to him as if he is her long lost friend when he comes in. She does this with all the animals, which is probably a big reason for the success of their business. I went to pick my Maltipoo up one afternoon and as I looked over the divider gate, I saw 6 Maltipoos! I honestly couldn't pick mine out of the crowd until she opened the gate and mine came running to me. They do not crate them while waiting for their owners unless there is an issue. I think my dog looks at it as bonus playtime so I doubt he misses me at all.
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Post by Lexica on Dec 12, 2018 19:12:35 GMT
Too bad I donated my large dog crates years ago. They would have been perfect to move the cats in. I am going to order this Rescue Remedy today to try out on them at home first. Thank you for suggesting it, **GypsyGirl**. Start looking at local thrift stores and garage sales for the size carriers you need. I sometimes see them at my thrift store for as little as $10 each. Rescue Remedy was recommended to my by the breeder for our Belgian Sheepdog. I picked her up in Belgium when she was 8 weeks old and had to fly back to Houston with her, as well as a second puppy for someone in Dallas. Toss in a 10 year old and a 2.5 hr delay on the plane before takeoff. Thanks to having given them both RR, the trip went very smoothly. That was the one instance where I did remove them from the carrier. It was at the attendant's suggestion and only until we were ready to pull back from the gate. After they went back in the carriers they slept the entire trip. Good idea about thrift stores and yard sales. I'll also keep checking my Craigslist in the hopes someone is selling one reasonably priced on there. I have had large dogs all my life and given away so many crates over the years. I gave the last two to a woman that my sister knew. They live in the low mountains near Julian California and their area seems to get fires requiring evacuations every couple of years. There was a raging fire going on up there and my sister had opened up her ranch to everyone that lived closer to the fires. She had people camping all over her property until the wind pushed the fires her direction and they had to all relocate further down into the valley at another friend's ranch. Sis had called me when the fires shifted toward her ranch to come to get my parents out of there and had mentioned all the people and dogs at her place. I offered up the two kennels I had in my shed and she told me about one woman whose husband had died in an accident a few months before this fire. The woman had 3 little girls, several horses, a kitten, and multiple dogs to evacuate. She was thrilled to have my kennels and I told her to just keep them since they have to evacuate so often. I can't imagine having a 2.5 hour delay on the tarmac with two puppies. Although puppies sleep a lot and might do better than an older dog. Does the Rescue Remedy list a per pound recommended dosage? **I ordered the Rescue Remedy last night and it will be here tomorrow. It may be just what I need to mellow my dog out while tending to his nails. He does not like it.
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Post by scrappintoee on Dec 12, 2018 20:59:14 GMT
pudgygroundhog .....I have no experience with this, but was so curious what others' experiences have been, so I read every reply. My sister-in-law and her DH have flown with their cat in a carrier under their seat on verrrry long flights, and never had any problems. I hope it goes well for you, and wow---living near the Grand Canyon sounds amazing! For those of you who've done this before, are your doggies/ kitties able to go an extra long long without pottying, or do you put potty pads in the crate with them? I'm not familiar with "Rescue Remedy"---besides calming them, does it help them hold their urine/stool longer than usual? ( I may try it on our doggies for NAIL TRIMMING!!) I've never flown with an animal, but DH worked for a now defunct airline in Arizona and once had to oversee the transport of a gorilla coming to the Phoenix zoo. The flight was delayed and the tranks wore off the monkey. He picked the lock and when DH opened the door to the aircraft he was greeted with a gorilla, out of the cage staring at him. Other than that I got nothing. OMG! Please, tell us what happened after that !!!
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 12, 2018 21:57:40 GMT
I know statistically nothing will happen to my pet, but since I personally know two people that had something happen to their dogs, I will not fly my pets. Those instances are briefly explained below. One was a good outcome the other was not. One of our 4-H kids had her dog lost by the airline on her way home from the Westminster dog show. Romeo was found and they were reunited the next day. The person that handled my dog at our breed National show had one dog killed on the plane because he was put in the wrong part of the plane. The details are horrific and still brings me to tears. She still shows but most of the people that are associated with her and all in her kennel drive to shows. They drive from California to Florida just about every year for a major show. My choice would be to drive, carry on pets or hire a carrier that specializes in pet transport. I’m paranoid about my pets safety so I will only go to shows I can drive to. Though not sure that means much since we did a self move from Chicago to Seattle and dh drove a u-haul towing a bronco while I drove a car with two kids. He had our two cats in crates with him. Good luck in your decision, for me it’s a really tough one. I'm so sorry that this happened. It must have been so scary for you. While I did recommend that the OP fly them cargo, it's not what I would do with one of my dogs if we move overseas again. I think a dog situation is different than a cat situation and I don't have cats who hate to be crated and would run away in a strange area/hotel. I recommended flying the cats because it seems to be the least amount of stress for them. I think multiple days in a pet carrier in a car driving across country in 6 months, after school lets out, (and too warm in the southern states to leave an animal in the car for any length of stop) is a larger risk than flying them. I've known more than a dozen people who have lost a cat during a move, but never known of a dog lost permanently (they will run, but usually can be caught.) With a multi day car trip, the cats will need to be put into a carrier at least once a day for multiple days, ride in the carrier for long hours for multiple days, have to use a strange litter box in a strange location, and be stressed for a good week with all of the chaos. And the risk of them running away is there every time they are let out of a crate. With flying, it's one and done. I don't have the info anymore, but about 10 years ago DH was being reassigned to Hawaii and we had a medically fragile labrador that I would not fly cargo. I don't think she could have handled it. I did find a company that transports zoo animals and that's what we were preparing to do with Sandy. I think their fees began at $1200, but we ended up moving back to DC and I didn't need them after all. If I had to fly a dog overseas again, that's what I would do. But that's overseas with no option to drive and a higher risk of something happening in flight.
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Post by kate on Dec 12, 2018 22:08:41 GMT
DH worked for a now defunct airline in Arizona and once had to oversee the transport of a gorilla coming to the Phoenix zoo. The flight was delayed and the tranks wore off the monkey. He picked the lock and when DH opened the door to the aircraft he was greeted with a gorilla, out of the cage staring at him. Other than that I got nothing.
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Post by heathers on Dec 12, 2018 22:20:23 GMT
I've never flown with an animal, but DH worked for a now defunct airline in Arizona and once had to oversee the transport of a gorilla coming to the Phoenix zoo. The flight was delayed and the tranks wore off the monkey. He picked the lock and when DH opened the door to the aircraft he was greeted with a gorilla, out of the cage staring at him. Other than that I got nothing. I don’t even own cats so I don’t know why I stuck my head in here but holy moses!
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Dec 12, 2018 22:42:04 GMT
My cat doesn't like to leave home. Meows and cries in the carrier, while in the car.
With that said, I would go for the least amount of travel time. Meaning airplane. I wouldn't want her in cargo, so I would opt for having her in the cabin. I would pay for a seat for her, that way, I can sticker my fingers in the carrier and comfort her. I would likely ask the Vet for a sleeping pill of some sort for her.
Best wishes on your next chapter!
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Post by MaryPea on Dec 12, 2018 23:17:40 GMT
i used a pet relocation service like you described to move my cats from TX to NC in 2007. The service was literally called "Pet Relocation" I think. I was really happy with it all, they handled everything as promised from pick up at my home in TX, thru security, on the plane, and then i picked them up at cargo here at the airport. It worked out great and my 3 did fine on the trip.
I did it because i could not imagine getting them thru security. I was certain we (me and the 3 cats) would be on the news as the reason DFW airport was evacuated, escaped cats running amok thru the terminal. They also found their voices in the car and howl the entire way to the vet, and i couldn't imagine subjecting other passengers to that for hours.
Good luck!!!
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Dec 12, 2018 23:37:58 GMT
I can tell you that my aunt, who is a snowbird, takes her cat with her to and from Florida. The cat goes in the cabin, in a carrier. (It is possible my aunt also buys her a seat, but I never really asked about the logistics beyond the fact that the cat's in the carrier.) I can also tell you that my aunt says the x-ray machine (carrier goes through, cat and all) causes the cat to have a personality change: that cat does not like people at home, but she goes through the x-ray to get to Florida, where she's apparently quite social with guests. Back through the x-ray to come home, back to grumpy cat. We took Southwest and never had to run them thru any x-ray machine......... They'd just peek in the carriers as we went thru the x-ray. As long as you have their papers, you're fine. And there was no weight limit. We put 2 cats in 1 carrier, and 1 in the other. We got 1st row seating so we had a little more legroom, but DD and I are both under 5' so it wasn't an issue.....
They did better with the airplane ride vs. moving here (a few apartments down, to a bigger apartment). Her cats screamed when we put them in the carriers and moved them here! Nuts!! (We learned a lesson in that----------- we moved 1 more time to a ground-floor apartment, and we did EVERYTHING first and then moved them last. They thought they were in the SAME apartment--looked exactly the same! They were fine).
Cats usually adapt pretty well, especially if you're there. I had an Rx for my cats coming down here via car, but DD gave her cats just an OTC calming pill and they were fine!
Good luck with the move and with your kitties! We'd help if we lived closeby!
That sounds like a prank show where you recreated your apartment in another one and the cats weren't any wiser, lol. We moved four years ago (locally, about 45 minutes away) and the cats adjusted very quickly to the new place. Thankfully, that wasn't a problem at all - it was the car ride!
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Dec 12, 2018 23:38:47 GMT
As someone who is very allergic to cats, hopefully they check with people immediately around to make sure there won’t be any issues. Sorry I have have no suggestions as all of my experiences have been with driving. Good luck and no matter what option you choose I Hope it is smooth and uneventful. Such excitement for your family, I wish you the best with the move and transition. Thank you!
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Dec 12, 2018 23:40:55 GMT
Ok, Ive been round and round the world with cats (and dogs) and a few years ago flew DC to Korea with my 17 year old cat. Carry on is not as roomy, also they howl the whole way. I’ve not seen a difference in how they tolerate the experience, so go for excess baggage/ cargo and save yourself the trouble. You cannot buy your cat a seat- they must be in the small bag the whole time and under the seat for take off and landing so no point. Excess baggage is around 200 per animal, they fly in exactly the same place as those going manifest cargo via a pet shipper which is way more expensive so my advice is skip the pet shipper and cargo and take them yourself. Check airlines, not airlines take pets anymore as excess baggage. If you can fly Alaska, they rock with pets. Sedation- you shouldn’t. But sometimes you must, I have a cat the vet said we just need to sedate. Airlines make you sign a form the animal is not sedated (risks) and I just sign it, I assume the risk (it is less risky than trying to rehome an elderly cat who bites, at least!). Talk to your vet about your specific cat for input- do NOT just decide to sedate on your own. But I’ve done it and some times you have to. Carry on I took mine to the plane bathroom to stretch their legs and drink (they would not) a few times. I really think a bigger crate in the baggage hold is better. It seems so daunting, but I’ve sent literally hundreds of animals via plane from Korea to the US and it’s all been fine, as well as hauled ,y crazy crew of 3-4 cats and various dogs all over. It is just one really bad, long day. They do fine. You and GypsyGirl can start a pet relocating business together, lol. Thanks for sharing! I'm really torn between the cabin and cargo. I like having them with me the whole time, but it seems like it will be cramped to be in the small carrier all day.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Dec 12, 2018 23:41:53 GMT
Check out this video by a well respected kitten rescuer. She moved her cats cross country a few months ago. It has all the info you need. m.youtube.com/watch?v=DpUL5ypsr_8Thanks for sharing the video! Very useful. Cabin seems more like an option if we can do a private room for security check.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Dec 12, 2018 23:43:08 GMT
I've never flown with an animal, but DH worked for a now defunct airline in Arizona and once had to oversee the transport of a gorilla coming to the Phoenix zoo. The flight was delayed and the tranks wore off the monkey. He picked the lock and when DH opened the door to the aircraft he was greeted with a gorilla, out of the cage staring at him. Other than that I got nothing.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Dec 12, 2018 23:46:28 GMT
I am so happy you posted this question. I will be moving next year with either 3 or 4 cats and one small dog. My move is nowhere near the distance as yours, I’m going from California to Oregon and have been back and forth on how to handle moving my critters. I will probably end up taking the 4th cat with me as well. He was abandoned down the street from me and I have been caring for him since I found out his situation. My neighbor has said would like to keep him, but he had a beautiful very expensive exotic cat that he kept letting go outside. I tried to educate him on the dangers, but he said the cat was happier outside. The poor thing was killed a few months later by another neighbor’s Rottweilers. I don’t really feel the cat will be safe in this neighbor’s care. I guess moving 4 cats isn’t much harder than moving 3, right? Except I am making the move by myself. I know the dog would be fine flying, I have been worrying about shipping the kitties and I think driving, although longer being contained, might be easier on them. I haven’t spoken to my vet yet, but the recommendation of the Rescue Remedy may be all I need. I think 3 of them will be okay in crates, but my big male, Tucker, will hate it. I rescued the three as kittens from the same litter. Their mother was feral, and it shows in her babies. My male cannot stand being picked up. None of them really like it to this day, but the girls will tolerate being carried a short distance. When he was a kitten, Tucker darn near tore the cloth carrier apart on his first trip to the vet. He yowled and clawed the entire time. The vet was concerned. I told her their history and that he wasn’t like that at my home. And even now, 12 years later, he will squirm and protest when I pick him up, just nowhere near as violently as he once was, thankfully. He is quite big and strong, and could really hurt me if he wanted to. He’s truly a lover and will spend all day snuggled up and purring on your lap, but only if he jumped up on his own. He is the one I worry about trying to fly with. With everyone’s various experiences here, I am leaning toward driving them with me myself using Rescue Remedy. I’m sure there will be lots of yowling, but if I break it into a 2-day trip, I think it will go okay. I would then have a hitch put on my car so I can rent a UHaul for the things I don’t want to have the movers take. That would leave my car empty to allow bigger carriers to make the cats more comfortable. I can’t see them traveling for two days in their small soft-sided carriers. Too bad I donated my large dog crates years ago. They would have been perfect to move the cats in. I am going to order this Rescue Remedy today to try out on them at home first. Thank you for suggesting it, **GypsyGirl** . You definitely have more logistics with more animals! (and so nice of you to take the fourth cat). If I was in your situation, I would probably drive too. If we were moving a similar distance, I would just do the drive (finding a pet friendly hotel for a night and breaking up the drive). Good luck!!
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Dec 12, 2018 23:48:12 GMT
I've only had one experience flying a dog in cargo and it was a disaster. He was supposed to be on the same flight with us, flying from Louisville to Oklahoma City. We arrived in Oklahoma City mid morning and found out our dog was not in the cargo section He ended up flying to Alaska! We finally were able to pick him up at midnight. The poor dog had never been let out of his crate to relieve himself. We were flying on the Sunday after Thanksgiving so I'm sure that was part of the reason for the mess up. Also, this was twenty years ago, so hopefully things have gotten better. However, because of that experience, I wouldn't fly an animal in cargo unless it was absolutely necessary. Oh man, what a mess! Glad it worked out okay, but I imagine it was incredibly stressful.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Dec 12, 2018 23:51:47 GMT
i used a pet relocation service like you described to move my cats from TX to NC in 2007. The service was literally called "Pet Relocation" I think. I was really happy with it all, they handled everything as promised from pick up at my home in TX, thru security, on the plane, and then i picked them up at cargo here at the airport. It worked out great and my 3 did fine on the trip. I did it because i could not imagine getting them thru security. I was certain we (me and the 3 cats) would be on the news as the reason DFW airport was evacuated, escaped cats running amok thru the terminal. They also found their voices in the car and howl the entire way to the vet, and i couldn't imagine subjecting other passengers to that for hours. Good luck!!! That is the company I have been talking to (recommended from a friend who has moved several times). It is an option, but it's an expensive one! I'm still considering what to do. And I have the same concern about security.
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 12, 2018 23:56:12 GMT
I've never flown with an animal, but DH worked for a now defunct airline in Arizona and once had to oversee the transport of a gorilla coming to the Phoenix zoo. The flight was delayed and the tranks wore off the monkey. He picked the lock and when DH opened the door to the aircraft he was greeted with a gorilla, out of the cage staring at him. Other than that I got nothing. Oh, come on! Don't leave us hanging. We MUST hear the rest of the gorilla story! Is this where Samsonite got their idea for gorilla proof luggage? Remember those old commercials from the 70s?
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We took Southwest and never had to run them thru any x-ray machine......... They'd just peek in the carriers as we went thru the x-ray. As long as you have their papers, you're fine. And there was no weight limit. We put 2 cats in 1 carrier, and 1 in the other. We got 1st row seating so we had a little more legroom, but DD and I are both under 5' so it wasn't an issue.....
They did better with the airplane ride vs. moving here (a few apartments down, to a bigger apartment). Her cats screamed when we put them in the carriers and moved them here! Nuts!! (We learned a lesson in that----------- we moved 1 more time to a ground-floor apartment, and we did EVERYTHING first and then moved them last. They thought they were in the SAME apartment--looked exactly the same! They were fine).
Cats usually adapt pretty well, especially if you're there. I had an Rx for my cats coming down here via car, but DD gave her cats just an OTC calming pill and they were fine!
Good luck with the move and with your kitties! We'd help if we lived closeby!
That sounds like a prank show where you recreated your apartment in another one and the cats weren't any wiser, lol. We moved four years ago (locally, about 45 minutes away) and the cats adjusted very quickly to the new place. Thankfully, that wasn't a problem at all - it was the car ride! Ha! Just about! This was because DDs 1 orange tabby freaks out. He faced the wall in her closet for 3 days with the first move, so we devised the replication of her room this last time & he was fine!! Good luck with your move & with whatever transportation you choose.
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Post by bethany102399 on Dec 13, 2018 0:42:31 GMT
on the gorilla story, DH tells it better, and it's MUCH funnier when he's had some scotch in him, but the gist of it is this:
He gets paperwork saying hey you've got a zoo animal on the aircraft, he's been tranked, caretaker is on board don't touch him caretaker will come down and get him once you land. He thinks ok, no big deal.
Plane lands, having been delayed during which the tranks wore off and the monkey got bored and picked the lock on his cage. DH opens the door of the aircraft and has to turn to lock the door in place so he can start the unload. He literally locks the door, turns around and sees the monkey staring at him. He gets on his radio and asks the tower to get the caretaker.
DH: Hey tower I need the animal handler off the plane NOW.
Tower: Why what's going on?
DH: the monkey is out of the cage. I repeat the monkey is out of the cage.
Tower: uhhhhhhh
Next thing you know the caretaker comes flying down the stairs they quickly set up to get her on the tarmac, trips and goes a$$ over teakettle onto the ground. Turns her ankle upon landing and sprains it.
She limps over to DH and tries to give the gorilla a lit cigarette. as the gorilla is sitting on several hundred pounds of fuel, DH stops her from doing this. meanwhile gorilla is shifting back and forth and DH is praying he doesn't A. Charge or B. hurt the aircraft.
Eventually they coax him (the gorilla not DH) back into his crate with an unlit cigarette. At that point, DH and his crew start unloading the bags and he's got a fun story to tell at parties. I assume the gorilla went on to a long and happy life at the Phoenix zoo.
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 13, 2018 2:05:43 GMT
on the gorilla story, DH tells it better, and it's MUCH funnier when he's had some scotch in him, but the gist of it is this: He gets paperwork saying hey you've got a zoo animal on the aircraft, he's been tranked, caretaker is on board don't touch him caretaker will come down and get him once you land. He thinks ok, no big deal. Plane lands, having been delayed during which the tranks wore off and the monkey got bored and picked the lock on his cage. DH opens the door of the aircraft and has to turn to lock the door in place so he can start the unload. He literally locks the door, turns around and sees the monkey staring at him. He gets on his radio and asks the tower to get the caretaker. DH: Hey tower I need the animal handler off the plane NOW. Tower: Why what's going on? DH: the monkey is out of the cage. I repeat the monkey is out of the cage. Tower: uhhhhhhh Next thing you know the caretaker comes flying down the stairs they quickly set up to get her on the tarmac, trips and goes a$$ over teakettle onto the ground. Turns her ankle upon landing and sprains it. She limps over to DH and tries to give the gorilla a lit cigarette. as the gorilla is sitting on several hundred pounds of fuel, DH stops her from doing this. meanwhile gorilla is shifting back and forth and DH is praying he doesn't A. Charge or B. hurt the aircraft. Eventually they coax him (the gorilla not DH) back into his crate with an unlit cigarette. At that point, DH and his crew start unloading the bags and he's got a fun story to tell at parties. I assume the gorilla went on to a long and happy life at the Phoenix zoo. That is a great story!
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Post by scrappintoee on Dec 13, 2018 2:36:55 GMT
bethany102399 ....Wow, thank you for telling us how it ended! I don't understand WHY the handler would try giving the gorilla a LIT cigarette for 2 reasons: 1. As you said---the FUEL !!! OMG, what was she thinking ! ! 2. Do gorillas commonly like cigarettes??? ROFL !!! I assume the answer is YES, because you said they got him back into his cage with one. Funny, OBSCURE things I constantly learn on this board !!
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