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Post by lesserknownpea on Dec 14, 2018 5:03:35 GMT
I finally jumped. First, CyberMonday had it for 49. Lowest I had seen.
Second, they started including Basque as a group. I’ve been waiting for years for this!
My dad is clearly of a different ethnic background than the rest of his family. When my Mom married him, she fantasized that he was a Turkish prince. Or at least that his dad was. He was the first child, and grandma had recently left her large family in Idaho to live with a sister in LA.
Then decades later, a friend saw a picture of my Dad and casually mentioned that he looked just like a friend from Idaho. My ears perked up!! Then she shared that her friend was Basque. The area had many Basque immigrants brought over to be shepherds.
I researched, pre Internet days, and discovered unmixed Basque people have O negative blood. Dad has that!
So I’ve spent almost 30 years believing dad is ( half) Basque, but no proof.
But in 4-6 weeks,( maybe longer due to high volume), I’ll finally have my answer, one way or the other.
Anybody else take advantage of the sale? What are you looking for? Hoping to learn?
UPDATE: mom was right! I’m a quarter Turkish! Which means Dad is half. No Basque at all. Now how did a good Mormon teenager from a tiny town in Idaho end up with a Turkish baby?? At least Basque made sense.
And I have lots of dna matches to explore, maybe I’ll find out who my grandfather was.
It’s true when they say you can be completely surprised when you do the dna test. I sure was.
I wish mom were still here to tell me “ I told you so “!
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Post by ntsf on Dec 14, 2018 5:50:28 GMT
I am going to try to get my 92 yr old dad to use the test.. and maybe I can clear up the mystery of his grandparents. I know of some cousins on one side.. but those connecting grandparents of his are mysterious. can't find death dates, the wife's name keeps changing or is it other person? and he thought that they had retired to denmark.. no record of that. he barely recalls the names of the aunts and uncles on that side and never met them --or if he did it was in the 1930's.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Dec 14, 2018 6:39:16 GMT
I am going to try to get my 92 yr old dad to use the test.. and maybe I can clear up the mystery of his grandparents. I know of some cousins on one side.. but those connecting grandparents of his are mysterious. can't find death dates, the wife's name keeps changing or is it other person? and he thought that they had retired to denmark.. no record of that. he barely recalls the names of the aunts and uncles on that side and never met them --or if he did it was in the 1930's. If your dad isn't keen why don't you do it? You will get the answers, just a generation further away.
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Post by ntsf on Dec 14, 2018 6:46:22 GMT
I don't know if he will or not.. but the more relatives who test. I believe the more you can know...
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Post by myboysnme on Dec 14, 2018 12:24:27 GMT
I bought it for my soon to be daughter in law. They are having a baby in a few weeks and I want to add in the baby's other side. Her mother's family is from Maine and my dad's family is from Maine. I wonder if there will be any people that show up on both trees?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 15:22:44 GMT
I've been wanting to get a kit for DH or our kids. He won't go for it because he knows there are skeletons in the closet and doesn't want to expose them. His dad left when he was young. There's rumors that dads aren't really the dad at every generation. Testing him or the kids may bring more half siblings that he doesn't want to admit to.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Dec 14, 2018 21:10:56 GMT
I've been wanting to get a kit for DH or our kids. He won't go for it because he knows there are skeletons in the closet and doesn't want to expose them. His dad left when he was young. There's rumors that dads aren't really the dad at every generation. Testing him or the kids may bring more half siblings that he doesn't want to admit to. Yes, I’m thinking my dad may have half siblings he knows nothing about. I’m excited to see what we find.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Dec 14, 2018 21:20:29 GMT
I am going to try to get my 92 yr old dad to use the test.. and maybe I can clear up the mystery of his grandparents. I know of some cousins on one side.. but those connecting grandparents of his are mysterious. can't find death dates, the wife's name keeps changing or is it other person? and he thought that they had retired to denmark.. no record of that. he barely recalls the names of the aunts and uncles on that side and never met them --or if he did it was in the 1930's. If your dad isn't keen why don't you do it? You will get the answers, just a generation further away. This is why I’m doing it. Dad is from the generation that feels I’m basically calling my Grandma a loose woman for questioning Dad’s paternity. However, these are literally very close pics of what Grandpa looked like compared to my Dad. How he can look in the mirror each day and not be curious I’ll never understand. ( to be clear, these are both Google pics, but EXACTLY what Grandpa and dad look like color and feature wise. Dad is, btw, much more handsome. But just as dark and strong featured )
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Dec 14, 2018 21:41:06 GMT
My grandmother was "married" three times, and preceded in death by each husband. First husband last name = Smith. He died young, and no children with my grandmother (for sure) Second husband last name = Jones. He and my grandmother lived a married life (but never married because... well he had another whole family a couple hours away. Anyway, there are 3 kids thought to be of this union, of which my mom is oldest. All three kids have last name = Smith (first husband not the man believed to be their father) Third husband last name = Miller. Comes in to the official picture (mom's memory) when the two youngest were grade schoolers and Jones was then dead. I've always known him as my grandfather. He passed when I was in high school. Here's where it gets messy. Most people see a resemblance where there is none, if you tell them there is a relationship. So, most folks went along with it. I don't know of anyone officially questioning it until I was an adult looking at pictures of my uncles. They are the spitting image of MILLER!!!! The one uncle (middle kid), who is now the age of my grandfather in my memory could be a ghost coming back from the grave!! I mentioned it to my mom (who looks NOTHING like Miller, or my grandmother) how strange it was. You know the whole "feed em long enough they start to look like you..." She told me that there was a particular childhood memory that she knows Miller was part of. My grandmother told her that the only time they went to that setting was when she was 3, well before either younger sibling. So, there is much talk (open now that Gram passed) that Miller is truly the father of the two uncles that bear the first husbands name! I would love to know the truth. I did get my mom an ancestry DNA kit last year (she still hasn't used it!) but that wouldn't solve the mystery of the uncles unless I could get them to do one too. But, while it is of no relevance emotionally to me who their father truly is, it is likely sensitive to them. I don't know that it's ever been brought up. But surely they have looked in the mirror! lesserknownpea I hope you get the answers you've been hoping for!! Best wishes!
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Post by Sue on Dec 14, 2018 21:51:03 GMT
Oh my goodness, lesserknownpea, I can see why you're anxious to see your DNA results! I think it would be more of a shock to find out your father and grandfather are related by blood than to find out they're not. They're both handsome men but couldn't look more different. Hope you get some clear-cut answers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 22:06:34 GMT
We started looking for native American due to family lore. My paternal grandfather's grandmother was 1/8th Cherokee. Mom shows a trace amount for native American. My sister also a trace and none for me although I connect to the family DNA circle of a Cherokee ancestor.
The surprise is my dad and sister both carry a small percentage of Persian. No one else on dad's side has done the test (yet) I've always wondered why he looks so different from his family. His parents are both short, very fair with lighter brown hair (not blond but not dark brunette) 2 of his siblings are blue eyed red heads. The other is a green eyed "dishwater blond" Dad's hair was a really dark brown with dark brown eyes and a warmer toned skin. The Persian explains a lot but where did it come from?
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Post by scrappington on Dec 14, 2018 22:16:52 GMT
My mom was adopted so I keep trying to find relatives on her side.
Most of my matches are on my dad's side. Apparently the whole island of Newfoundland bought a kit and I'm related to them all. Kit should be banned there. (sarcasm)
I have hit a very close match on my mom's side with my mom's biological last name and have determined what line she comes from. I have also found the other parents lineage and found where she comes from there. They only issue with that is there were a lot of adoptions and second families etc.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Dec 14, 2018 22:27:57 GMT
My grandmother was "married" three times, and preceded in death by each husband. First husband last name = Smith. He died young, and no children with my grandmother (for sure) Second husband last name = Jones. He and my grandmother lived a married life (but never married because... well he had another whole family a couple hours away. Anyway, there are 3 kids thought to be of this union, of which my mom is oldest. All three kids have last name = Smith (first husband not the man believed to be their father) Third husband last name = Miller. Comes in to the official picture (mom's memory) when the two youngest were grade schoolers and Jones was then dead. I've always known him as my grandfather. He passed when I was in high school. Here's where it gets messy. Most people see a resemblance where there is none, if you tell them there is a relationship. So, most folks went along with it. I don't know of anyone officially questioning it until I was an adult looking at pictures of my uncles. They are the spitting image of MILLER!!!! The one uncle (middle kid), who is now the age of my grandfather in my memory could be a ghost coming back from the grave!! I mentioned it to my mom (who looks NOTHING like Miller, or my grandmother) how strange it was. You know the whole "feed em long enough they start to look like you..." She told me that there was a particular childhood memory that she knows Miller was part of. My grandmother told her that the only time they went to that setting was when she was 3, well before either younger sibling. So, there is much talk (open now that Gram passed) that Miller is truly the father of the two uncles that bear the first husbands name! I would love to know the truth. I did get my mom an ancestry DNA kit last year (she still hasn't used it!) but that wouldn't solve the mystery of the uncles unless I could get them to do one too. But, while it is of no relevance emotionally to me who their father truly is, it is likely sensitive to them. I don't know that it's ever been brought up. But surely they have looked in the mirror! lesserknownpea I hope you get the answers you've been hoping for!! Best wishes! I know just what you’re talking about! My mom’s first husband was “ Smith”, second, “Johnson “. All 5 of us were Smiths. Except, as we grew, it was OBVIOUS that the younger two were Johnson. DNA was strong, y’all. One day, when my brother was being a particularly obnoxious jerk, around age 9, I said I was going to tell Dad. ( Johnson, my stepfather). Brother yelled “he’s not my Dad”!! ( stepfather was a mean drunk and not popular, my Dad, however, was kind and the time we spent with him was like a reprieve). Well, I was so annoyed at brother that I just yelled out the elephant in the room: of course he’s your father. You look just like him, go look at a mirror!! Brother ran into his bedroom and wouldn’t come out until the parents came home. Then. *I* got in trouble for blurting out the truth. Ugh. He was about 9 and I was 13. He spent the rest of his life trying to pretend my dad is his. To this day he calls my dad almost every day. ( often asking him for money). So, yeah, I get it with your “Miller” uncles.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Dec 15, 2018 0:03:19 GMT
lesserknownpea.. not gonna quote for fear of book length! Hahaha sooo funny you said it!! I’m not ballsy enough to. I have to admit, I don’t even know who on the “Miller” side has done a test- we had no interaction with them for some reason. I could easily get the kid (my cousin) of Grandpa doppelgänger to do the rest and see how related she is to my mom (confident her dad is Jones.) I think that would be enough to prove some level of doubt. I look at it as an unsolved mystery and I don’t think my cousin would care who her actual paternal grandfather is, but she isn’t likely to keep the secret if it’s not who everyone says it is. And I don’t want to hurt my Uncles. Maybe I’m projecting feeling onto them, but it’s not worth the risk now. All of us consider my Grandmother the backbone of the family, the glue so to speak. This is a secret I can live without knowing. Or, after the stakeholders are no longer with us, test my generation. I love that it seems your mystery has a positive outcome regardless!! Omg and lmao at the entire island of Newfoundland being family for another pea!
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Post by lesserknownpea on Dec 15, 2018 0:13:38 GMT
FuzzyMutt I understand not wanting to hurt the older generation. I’m not sure if I’ll tell Dad. He’s in his 80’s. I’ve floated hints in the past and he’s shut me down. But he’s also told me that his Dad was very cold to him, and to his memory, he never actually called him Father or Dad in person. I think that speaks volumes! And to the Pea related to all of Newfoundland: I think a similar thing will happen with regards to My mother’s side. Grandpa was born on Deer Island. Grandmother in Eastport. I think it likely I have a rash if family there, including the mystery of my great grandmother’s father.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Dec 30, 2018 19:47:41 GMT
Update in OP
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Post by shamrockpea on Dec 30, 2018 21:56:20 GMT
I have not bought it but my 87 year old dad got his birthparent names from his preadoption birth certificate. His birth parents were: Everett P. Harrison (32 on 6/15/31) born in Colorado residing in is Angeles in 6/31. His birth mom was Genevieve HarrIson age 23 in 1931 residing in Tacoma, was, born in Ohio. No one has been able to find anything on these two. If anyone is bored please see if you can find any wedding records.
Oops I just realized you meant the DNA kit. Yes I bought one for my Dad and sent it in Friday. Very curious.
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Post by valincal on Dec 30, 2018 22:27:00 GMT
Cool update! I got the kit for DH for Christmas and one for myself so I can’t wait to send them off. I don’t expect any surprises but it will still be interesting to see.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 22:52:49 GMT
We started looking for native American due to family lore. My paternal grandfather's grandmother was 1/8th Cherokee. Mom shows a trace amount for native American. My sister also a trace and none for me although I connect to the family DNA circle of a Cherokee ancestor. The surprise is my dad and sister both carry a small percentage of Persian. No one else on dad's side has done the test (yet) I've always wondered why he looks so different from his family. His parents are both short, very fair with lighter brown hair (not blond but not dark brunette) 2 of his siblings are blue eyed red heads. The other is a green eyed "dishwater blond" Dad's hair was a really dark brown with dark brown eyes and a warmer toned skin. The Persian explains a lot but where did it come from? Are you Irish? A lot of Persians immigrated to Ireland before 1600. I am blond/with blue eyes. My father looked like a Persian prince with his jet black hair and dark blue eyes. The whole Irish clan had black hair and dark blues.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 22:53:55 GMT
I wanted to find out that my parents weren’t my parents or that I had some sisters or brothers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 22:57:40 GMT
I finally jumped. First, CyberMonday had it for 49. Lowest I had seen. Second, they started including Basque as a group. I’ve been waiting for years for this! My dad is clearly of a different ethnic background than the rest of his family. When my Mom married him, she fantasized that he was a Turkish prince. Or at least that his dad was. He was the first child, and grandma had recently left her large family in Idaho to live with a sister in LA. Then decades later, a friend saw a picture of my Dad and casually mentioned that he looked just like a friend from Idaho. My ears perked up!! Then she shared that her friend was Basque. The area had many Basque immigrants brought over to be shepherds. I researched, pre Internet days, and discovered unmixed Basque people have O negative blood. Dad has that! So I’ve spent almost 30 years believing dad is ( half) Basque, but no proof. But in 4-6 weeks,( maybe longer due to high volume), I’ll finally have my answer, one way or the other. Anybody else take advantage of the sale? What are you looking for? Hoping to learn? UPDATE: mom was right! I’m a quarter Turkish! Which means Dad is half. No Basque at all. Now how did a good Mormon teenager from a tiny town in Idaho end up with a Turkish baby?? At least Basque made sense. And I have lots of dna matches to explore, maybe I’ll find out who my grandfather was. It’s true when they say you can be completely surprised when you do the dna test. I sure was. I wish mom were still here to tell me “ I told you so “! I know a woman from Idaho who is of some middle eastern/ Spanish descent ( father), mother was white. . She was adopted in the sixties.
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Post by rahnee on Dec 31, 2018 0:27:30 GMT
I've just sent off a test of my uncle (Dad's brother) Dad tested a few years ago and despite having a large tree from 25+ years of research, he matches no one on his paternal side. He had a match of 205cM and due to age of both of them, I've calculated that she is a first cousin twice removed. I've been through the family of everyone related and from here, I think I've established who Dad's father actually is. It was helped by the fact that most of them are in the UK (and always have been) and we are in Australia. So I'm expecting Uncles test to confirm that him and Dad are only 1/2 brothers. I'm also expecting him to have matches to the tree I've spent so long researching. Dad know's what we are doing and is quite interested. I don't think that we will actually tell Uncle if it confirms 1/2 sibling. Not sure yet.
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Post by Miss Lerins Momma on Dec 31, 2018 1:00:18 GMT
I did the 23andme one. And then DH bought me the ancestry one for Christmas. I love family history and have tried to do our genealogy several times but don’t get very far.
But my main reason is to have my dNA out there. My dad believes he has a son out there that the mom has kept hidden from him. So if he ever does his own, maybe we will be a match. My dad has tried to find this kid for years and the mom threatened legal action against him the last time he got close. She was messing around on her husband and doesn’t want anyone to find out. I don’t care if the kid is or isn’t, but would love to give that peace of mind to my dad. I feel like he has a right to know. (The “kid” is a grown man now, probably in his 30’s)
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Post by lesserknownpea on Dec 31, 2018 3:28:04 GMT
I did the 23andme one. And then DH bought me the ancestry one for Christmas. I love family history and have tried to do our genealogy several times but don’t get very far. But my main reason is to have my dNA out there. My dad believes he has a son out there that the mom has kept hidden from him. So if he ever does his own, maybe we will be a match. My dad has tried to find this kid for years and the mom threatened legal action against him the last time he got close. She was messing around on her husband and doesn’t want anyone to find out. I don’t care if the kid is or isn’t, but would love to give that peace of mind to my dad. I feel like he has a right to know. (The “kid” is a grown man now, probably in his 30’s) My DD wants to do this as XH said he has a son from before he married me. Unfortunately he waited until he was paralyzed from a stroke and communication is very hard, so she has a first name and New York City, haha. But she wants to find this brother. Dna could be the answer. And this “kid” would be about 42
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Post by jenjie on Dec 31, 2018 3:33:00 GMT
I did the 23andme one. And then DH bought me the ancestry one for Christmas. I love family history and have tried to do our genealogy several times but don’t get very far. But my main reason is to have my dNA out there. My dad believes he has a son out there that the mom has kept hidden from him. So if he ever does his own, maybe we will be a match. My dad has tried to find this kid for years and the mom threatened legal action against him the last time he got close. She was messing around on her husband and doesn’t want anyone to find out. I don’t care if the kid is or isn’t, but would love to give that peace of mind to my dad. I feel like he has a right to know. (The “kid” is a grown man now, probably in his 30’s) That’s very kind of you
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Post by lesserknownpea on Dec 31, 2018 3:38:59 GMT
I've just sent off a test of my uncle (Dad's brother) Dad tested a few years ago and despite having a large tree from 25+ years of research, he matches no one on his paternal side. He had a match of 205cM and due to age of both of them, I've calculated that she is a first cousin twice removed. I've been through the family of everyone related and from here, I think I've established who Dad's father actually is. It was helped by the fact that most of them are in the UK (and always have been) and we are in Australia. So I'm expecting Uncles test to confirm that him and Dad are only 1/2 brothers. I'm also expecting him to have matches to the tree I've spent so long researching. Dad know's what we are doing and is quite interested. I don't think that we will actually tell Uncle if it confirms 1/2 sibling. Not sure yet. This is the kind of work I’m going to be doing. I’ve started checking out all the matches to find the ones who share the Turkish dna, to hopefully figure out who my Grandfather was. It looks like a lot of work.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 0:24:08 GMT
We started looking for native American due to family lore. My paternal grandfather's grandmother was 1/8th Cherokee. Mom shows a trace amount for native American. My sister also a trace and none for me although I connect to the family DNA circle of a Cherokee ancestor. The surprise is my dad and sister both carry a small percentage of Persian. No one else on dad's side has done the test (yet) I've always wondered why he looks so different from his family. His parents are both short, very fair with lighter brown hair (not blond but not dark brunette) 2 of his siblings are blue eyed red heads. The other is a green eyed "dishwater blond" Dad's hair was a really dark brown with dark brown eyes and a warmer toned skin. The Persian explains a lot but where did it come from? Are you Irish? A lot of Persians immigrated to Ireland before 1600. I am blond/with blue eyes. My father looked like a Persian prince with his jet black hair and dark blue eyes. The whole Irish clan had black hair and dark blues. ah! Thanks for that info. Yes, we are strongly Irish (in the 25-30%)
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Post by quiltz on Jan 2, 2019 0:55:30 GMT
I've just sent off a test of my uncle (Dad's brother) Dad tested a few years ago and despite having a large tree from 25+ years of research, he matches no one on his paternal side. He had a match of 205cM and due to age of both of them, I've calculated that she is a first cousin twice removed. I've been through the family of everyone related and from here, I think I've established who Dad's father actually is. It was helped by the fact that most of them are in the UK (and always have been) and we are in Australia. So I'm expecting Uncles test to confirm that him and Dad are only 1/2 brothers. I'm also expecting him to have matches to the tree I've spent so long researching. Dad know's what we are doing and is quite interested. I don't think that we will actually tell Uncle if it confirms 1/2 sibling. Not sure yet. This is the kind of work I’m going to be doing. I’ve started checking out all the matches to find the ones who share the Turkish dna, to hopefully figure out who my Grandfather was. It looks like a lot of work. I wish you luck in finding out more about your background. My cousin is the family historian and I do help her out when I can. It is interesting doing the research and finding out where my 2nd cousins from Germany have migrated to. I met some of them in 1972, in Germany.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 2, 2019 1:13:15 GMT
UPDATE: mom was right! I’m a quarter Turkish! Which means Dad is half Actually it doesn't mean that. Unless both parents were tested you don't know for a fact where the Turkish DNA comes from. You also can't assume that you got exactly half of your Father's Turkish DNA (you get half of his total DNA but it isn't in exact half quantities of each ethnic group) The most you can reasonably guess at is that your father probably had at least 25% Turkish DNA, and possibly more. In theory your Dad could have been 80% Turkish and you got your 25% from that or he could have been only 30% and you still got your 25% from that. Or he could have had 20% and your mother 5% and you inherited those sections of DNA from each of them...there's a myriad of possibilities. Without testing your mother and father separately the only thing you know for sure is that you have 25% Turkish DNA that was inherited from one parent or a combination of both, which parent it is from or how much...you can't know from just your test.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jan 2, 2019 7:05:32 GMT
UPDATE: mom was right! I’m a quarter Turkish! Which means Dad is half Actually it doesn't mean that. Unless both parents were tested you don't know for a fact where the Turkish DNA comes from. You also can't assume that you got exactly half of your Father's Turkish DNA (you get half of his total DNA but it isn't in exact half quantities of each ethnic group) The most you can reasonably guess at is that your father probably had at least 25% Turkish DNA, and possibly more. In theory your Dad could have been 80% Turkish and you got your 25% from that or he could have been only 30% and you still got your 25% from that. Or he could have had 20% and your mother 5% and you inherited those sections of DNA from each of them...there's a myriad of possibilities. Without testing your mother and father separately the only thing you know for sure is that you have 25% Turkish DNA that was inherited from one parent or a combination of both, which parent it is from or how much...you can't know from just your test. Thank you, I think. The other 75% of my dna results exactly validated what I knew of my other 3 grandparents. English Scottish and Welsh. Ancestry even described the migrations I already knew about, one Grandparent’s family came from England to Idaho as Mormon settlers. The other two grandparents came from people who emigrated from England and Scotland to Maine and New Brunswick. And Ancestry.com showed that migration pattern as well. I was actually prepared for the numbers to be messier than that, as I have read about how dna isn’t inherited in exact percentages. So I was surprised that in my case it did end up 75% of one area and 25% of a completely different part of the world. And for that 25%, AncestryDNA have no migration pattern to show me. It will take work to try to find who this individual was and figure out what he was doing somewhere where he could meet up with my Grandma in 1934. But yes, I feel very confident that he is the only source of the Turkish dna.
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