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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 13:08:20 GMT
www.christianpost.com/news/anne-graham-lotz-warns-her-cancer-could-be-sign-israel-is-in-danger-of-fatal-attack.html"Lotz reasoned on her website Wednesday that she has long thought of herself and the modern state of Israel as “entwined,” given that both are 70 years old, with the latter having been established in 1948. The evangelist and author said she's questioning whether “there is more to my cancer at the age of 70 than just a random coincidence.”... Lotz noted that she was born not only in the same year, but one week to the day of Israel’s establishment in May 1948. “Could it be that God has given me a message for her that I am living out in my own experience?” she wondered. “Just as my cancer is a potentially fatal disease, is Israel also in danger of being attacked in a potentially fatal way? Just as my cancer struck suddenly and unexpectedly through no fault of my own, will Israel also be struck by her enemies suddenly and unexpectedly through no fault of her own?” She continued: “Just as I have not been immediately and quickly delivered from cancer, will Israel also not be quickly delivered from her enemies as she was in the 1967 war? Just as I am having to fight the cancer with chemotherapy cell by cell, will Israel also have to fight her enemies region by region, village by village, street by street, house by house?” I guess whatever helps her keep up the fight against her cancer. But what a warped way to see the world.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 13:23:09 GMT
I really want to say 'bitches be crazy' but I won't I'll just say I hope she recovers fully from her cancer.
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Post by michellegb on Dec 16, 2018 13:31:07 GMT
I don't even know what to say about that kind of thinking.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Dec 16, 2018 13:31:36 GMT
Cameroon gained its independence the year I was born. Gosh, I sure hope when I sneeze they don't experience gale force winds.
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Post by lesley on Dec 16, 2018 13:31:39 GMT
Yes of course this makes sense. How very egocentric. 🙄
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Post by Merge on Dec 16, 2018 13:32:59 GMT
Yes, everything is all about her ...
I do wonder how the pro-Israel evangelicals like sharing the Trump tent with literal neo-Nazis.
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Post by lesley on Dec 16, 2018 13:33:04 GMT
Cameroon gained its independence the year I was born. Gosh, I sure hope when I sneeze they don't experience gale force winds. I was born 4 weeks before JFK was assassinated. I’m so sorry Kennedy family, I was only a child.
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Post by carhoch on Dec 16, 2018 13:35:14 GMT
Cameroon gained its independence the year I was born. Gosh, I sure hope when I sneeze they don't experience gale force winds.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 13:48:34 GMT
UGH!! I know a few people who think like her. I am sure, because she thinks so highly of herself, she had to come up with a reason why God "allowed" her to have Cancer. It probably helps her cope with what is going on with her.
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Post by ajsweetpea on Dec 16, 2018 13:50:37 GMT
I think that we sometimes overuse the word narcissist in our society, but in this case, it's completely fitting. What the actual hell? Someone should tell this genius that every one of us was born when SOMETHING happened in history. Doesn't mean it has anything to do with us. Goodness.
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Post by sueg on Dec 16, 2018 13:51:54 GMT
I was born just before the Berlin Wall was built (3 months to the day)! Thankfully, I am still here even though the wall is not.
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Post by Sarah*H on Dec 16, 2018 13:55:03 GMT
I think the Graham family has jumped the shark.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 13:58:16 GMT
UGH!! I know a few people who think like her. I am sure, because she thinks so highly of herself, she had to come up with a reason why God "allowed" her to have Cancer. It probably helps her cope with what is going on with her. Exactly that. She couldn't be just another human subject to the same physics, chemistry and biology as the rest of the human race who is diagnosed with cancer (and some other mammals as well). Nope. It must be a sign that her god gave her - something special and touched by what she has determined is divine.
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Post by J u l e e on Dec 16, 2018 14:00:19 GMT
I really want to say 'bitches be crazy' but I won't I'll just say I hope she recovers fully from her cancer. Me too. And think of the bonus that will be for Israel.
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Post by janskylar on Dec 16, 2018 14:04:07 GMT
Pretty sure Southern Baptist God would save a message that important for a man.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Dec 16, 2018 14:07:39 GMT
Yes of course this makes sense. How very egocentric. 🙄 It’s a kind of religious narcissism, like the idea that Jesus is a Republican...or God always sides with the United States...or the guy in the video recently telling a couple Civil War memorial protesters that “Jesus hates your f*cking guts.” SHE is the vessel God has chosen to be the harbinger of Israel’s coming woes, to warn us it is imperiled. She is special. Favored. Like Israel. And no, I don’t feel the least regret for criticizing a woman who has cancer. She’s the one who is publicly interpreting her disease as an international political warning. I hope she recovers, but I can also think she is a sham.
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Post by pilcas on Dec 16, 2018 14:19:50 GMT
I’m so tired of these people... not going to add anything else about what I think b3cause you have all said it already.
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Post by elaine on Dec 16, 2018 14:27:09 GMT
And here I thought that my cancer was just bad luck. You know, with the odds being 1 in 8 women developing breast cancer in their lifetimes.
You would think that G-d would pick a more unique sign than cancer, and something that actually was connected to Israel in some way.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 14:29:12 GMT
I really want to say 'bitches be crazy' but I won't I'll just say I hope she recovers fully from her cancer. And you know that if she does, all the glory will go to science and testing and modern medicine and doctors and chemists putting in years of study to fight this scourge. Right? Right?!?!?! Oh, right, silly me. God will get the glory. How nice it would be to have a job where you get credit for all the good stuff and no blame for all the bad stuff.
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Post by SockMonkey on Dec 16, 2018 15:15:49 GMT
I really want to say 'bitches be crazy' but I won't I'll just say I hope she recovers fully from her cancer. And you know that if she does, all the glory will go to science and testing and modern medicine and doctors and chemists putting in years of study to fight this scourge. Right? Right?!?!?! Oh, right, silly me. God will get the glory. How nice it would be to have a job where you get credit for all the good stuff and no blame for all the bad stuff. Dat prosperity gospel.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 23:12:37 GMT
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Post by Mystie on Dec 16, 2018 23:44:10 GMT
I call bullshit on this. My dad was born in 1948. My dad is battling cancer. Clearly the message was intended to be revealed through him.
He's lost his short-term memory but has good long-term memory. This shows that God will not forget Israel.
He's too weak to walk far. This shows that God will carry Israel.
He's battled a ruthless enemy that comes back over and over to destroy him. Hello, that practically makes my dad a Jew!
Step aside, Ms. Lotz. There's a new prophet in town. And I hope you have a better experience than my dear dad has had, even though he deserves it more than you do.
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Post by berty on Dec 16, 2018 23:51:19 GMT
I call bullshit on this. My dad was born in 1948. My dad is battling cancer. Clearly the message was intended to be revealed through him. He's lost his short-term memory but has good long-term memory. This shows that God will not forget Israel. He's too weak to walk far. This shows that God will carry Israel. He's battled a ruthless enemy that comes back over and over to destroy him. Hello, that practically makes my dad a Jew! Step aside, Ms. Lotz. There's a new prophet in town. And I hope you have a better experience than my dear dad has had, even though he deserves it more than you do. I'm so sorry about your Dad, but I can't help giggling at this post.
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Post by eleezybeth on Dec 16, 2018 23:59:23 GMT
UGH!! I know a few people who think like her. I am sure, because she thinks so highly of herself, she had to come up with a reason why God "allowed" her to have Cancer. It probably helps her cope with what is going on with her. My MIL firmly believes that 9/11 happened to HER because she was supposed to travel on 9/12. The terrorists came to the US to ruin her trip. 9/11 is quite personal to her even though she had never been to NYC or DC and knew nobody on any of the planes even playing 20 degrees of separation. Just ask her, she'll tell you all about how those dirty brown men ruined her trip.
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Post by jenis40 on Dec 17, 2018 0:03:23 GMT
WTAF? This is offensive to those that have/had cancer (me being one of them) as well as the nation of Isreal and those affected by the Palestinian conflict. I am so DONE with evangelical Christians like this.
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Post by pierkiss on Dec 17, 2018 0:04:06 GMT
No. You have a cell that went rouge and multiplied and it took over. Cancer has nothing to do with Israel. That’s insane.
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Post by delila on Dec 17, 2018 0:09:15 GMT
Well bless her special little heart,
delila
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 0:16:51 GMT
UGH!! I know a few people who think like her. I am sure, because she thinks so highly of herself, she had to come up with a reason why God "allowed" her to have Cancer. It probably helps her cope with what is going on with her. My MIL firmly believes that 9/11 happened to HER because she was supposed to travel on 9/12. The terrorists came to the US to ruin her trip. 9/11 is quite personal to her even though she had never been to NYC or DC and knew nobody on any of the planes even playing 20 degrees of separation. Just ask her, she'll tell you all about how those dirty brown men ruined her trip. Wow!! just wow!! My relative believes the tornado that touched down near the hotel where she was meeting with "like minded Christians" was sent by Satan. Her friend saw in a dream ....a sword came out of the sky to fight the tornado and spare the hotel so her meeting would not be ruined.
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Dec 17, 2018 0:22:54 GMT
I’m sure there are people that were born on the exact day that Israel was established. I need to know how they are doing before I can give any credence to someone born a week off of the actual date.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 1:54:55 GMT
I call bullshit on this. My dad was born in 1948. My dad is battling cancer. Clearly the message was intended to be revealed through him. He's lost his short-term memory but has good long-term memory. This shows that God will not forget Israel. He's too weak to walk far. This shows that God will carry Israel. He's battled a ruthless enemy that comes back over and over to destroy him. Hello, that practically makes my dad a Jew! Step aside, Ms. Lotz. There's a new prophet in town. And I hope you have a better experience than my dear dad has had, even though he deserves it more than you do. Sorry about your dad, Mystie. Thoughts for health and peace.
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