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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 13:07:35 GMT
I have one sister who has 4 children. I have 1 child. My son is the youngest at 12 of the grandkids.
For birthdays and Christmas, I have always given them all money and sometimes a gift too (usually between $25-$50), not to mention I've helped buy a lot for their parties over the years.
I decided that after 18, I was going to just do cards, with a small gift like scratch offs for birthdays, and after 21 just a gift if I want to for Christmas. I hope I'm not being unreasonable. I have a lot of big expenses coming up for my son, and with my sisters kids all getting older, I just don't want to feel "obligated" to buy something or give money. Her kids are 14, 19, 20, 22. Some of them have or are planning on moving away, so I won't see them at holidays or birthdays anymore. I told my sister, so she can do the same for my son.
My 2 older nieces aren't happy about the idea, but they are not kids anymore, and I'm looking forward to having less to buy at holiday time especially. I think they feel like I owe them gifts or something.
Has anyone else set a kind of "end date" for giving to extended family? I don't want to seem like a scrooge, but I would like to buy for just who I want, or what I want rather than keep handing over money.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 13:16:12 GMT
I think an end date or ageing out of family gifts is very reasonable. But then, in my family that happened at high school graduation. For the unhappy nieces perhaps suggest they will stay on the gift list BUT there is an expectation they will now each be giving you a gift as well now that they are adults. Then once they send you a gift you can send a reciprocal one of similar type back to them.
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Post by 3kidsmom on Sept 28, 2014 13:17:52 GMT
That's a tough one, but if your siblings agree I don't see a problem. I don't have any nieces or nephews. DH is an only child and my sisters don't have kids. I'm the only one with children.
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Post by ShesaRenegade on Sept 28, 2014 13:18:03 GMT
I stopped buying for everyone this year. I sent out a Christmas card in July and let everyone know of my intentions. In the letter I reminded them that I have always wanted to travel extensively, and so I was saving my money from now on to fund my trips, with my first this next July when I'm going to the Galapagos Islands and Machu Picchu as a 50th birthday gift to myself. We are all adults now and buy ourselves everything we want anyway. The letter met with a bit of resistance from a few, but I don't really care. I promised I'd send postcards from my exotic locations!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 13:18:53 GMT
I think they feel like I owe them gifts or something. This is the way I have been feeling lately. I have no children, and have always been very generous with my nephew. But it's gotten to the point where I feel like it's just expected, and he can barely be bothered to thank me and DH. It's like he's doing us the favor by allowing us to give him things. And despite having a job, has never given us more than a card or a token, very cheap gift for any birthday or holiday. I love the kid but he just turned 21 and we've decided that's the end of the extravagant gifts.
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Post by houstonsandy on Sept 28, 2014 13:31:48 GMT
We stopped when we no longer received any "thank yous" or other forms of acknowledgement from the nieces/nephews. It was about the times that they graduated high school. What irks me, though, is that our child is much younger than those cousins. Although we sent gifts to all seven of those nieces/nephews for 17 or 18 years for birthdays and Christmases....as soon as those kids became adults for whatever reason everyone stopped sending our child any gifts any more...even though she was still young.
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Post by mallie on Sept 28, 2014 13:37:07 GMT
I have one sister who has 4 children. I have 1 child. My son is the youngest at 12 of the grandkids. For birthdays and Christmas, I have always given them all money and sometimes a gift too (usually between $25-$50), not to mention I've helped buy a lot for their parties over the years. I decided that after 18, I was going to just do cards, with a small gift like scratch offs for birthdays, and after 21 just a gift if I want to for Christmas. I hope I'm not being unreasonable. I have a lot of big expenses coming up for my son, and with my sisters kids all getting older, I just don't want to feel "obligated" to buy something or give money. Her kids are 14, 19, 20, 22. Some of them have or are planning on moving away, so I won't see them at holidays or birthdays anymore. I told my sister, so she can do the same for my son. My 2 older nieces aren't happy about the idea, but they are not kids anymore, and I'm looking forward to having less to buy at holiday time especially. I think they feel like I owe them gifts or something.Has anyone else set a kind of "end date" for giving to extended family? I don't want to seem like a scrooge, but I would like to buy for just who I want, or what I want rather than keep handing over money. Too bad their parents did not teach them the lesson that no one owes them a gift. That's not the definition of gift, after all. We were done at age 18. My two very materialistic nieces were upset. Had the same attitude. They learned it from their mother. Note that my girls have received a grand total of 3 gifts in their entire lifetime from that family. But we were expected to give to the nieces on every occasion. Why? "Because my girls deserve it. Teeheeheee." Same people also called us up to DEMAND that we give them our savings to pay for a new roof on their house. Why? Because "we deserve it." You get the picture. It looks like entitlement. Don't feed the entitlement monster because she is insatiable.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Sept 28, 2014 13:39:24 GMT
Our cutoff is 21 and the last gift is college graduation - until then weddings start
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 28, 2014 13:48:13 GMT
This was easy in our family because it's HUGE. We inherited the previous generations policy of stopping birthday gifts at 18. Christmas is different between our different branches. One branch never did Christmas gifts for nieces and nephews (keep in mind I have something like 38 first cousins in that branch, so it's not real surprising). Other branches gave Christmas gifts to the kids until they were old enough to participate in the adult gift giving tradition (drawing names, yankee exchange, etc)
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Post by gar on Sept 28, 2014 13:56:27 GMT
My sister and I decided it was 21. My youngest is going to miss it (she loves presents!) but it's right for us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 14:10:34 GMT
We finish when they get to 18 too. DH siblings are much older than he is so have older children. Out of 5 children between them I only buy for the one that is under 18. The over 18's understand this. They still buy for mine though and will do until they become 18. This applies to Birthdays and Christmas. My sisters kids are all under 18 so the rule doesn't apply to them but will do so when the time comes. The exception to this is that I do buy for their 21st birthday when that comes along. ( 21 used to be the old coming of age/adult,so it's kind of stuck as a special event in their lives)
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Post by grinningcat on Sept 28, 2014 14:27:15 GMT
Nope. I don't think age limits for gifts make sense and I don't see why a person should be "punished" for becoming an adult. I purchase for all the nieces, nephews and cousins. I think gifting is fun and should include everyone... not just little kids. I'd be pretty sad if my family implemented a rule like that.
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Post by Tamhugh on Sept 28, 2014 14:31:04 GMT
DH and I are both from families of three. We used to buy for all the siblings until we started having kids. At that point, we decided we would only buy for the kids and the siblings on both sides liked the idea. The younger generation is mostly grown now but none of them are married yet. We have agreed that we will continue to buy until they start having kids and then it is all about the little ones again. Luckily, we still 3 little nieces and nephews to buy the fun stuff for.
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Post by miominmio on Sept 28, 2014 14:35:08 GMT
Nope. I don't think age limits for gifts make sense and I don't see why a person should be "punished" for becoming an adult. I purchase for all the nieces, nephews and cousins. I think gifting is fun and should include everyone... not just little kids. I'd be pretty sad if my family implemented a rule like that. I don't buy for cousins (with one exception), but other than that, I completely agree. I only have 2 nephews and one niece, and as long as I get a "thank you" I will continue to buy them gifts.
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Post by auntkelly on Sept 28, 2014 14:36:58 GMT
My husband and I both come from small families. My brother has two kids and his sister has four kids. We see our nieces and nephews often and we are close to all of them. I plan to keep giving them gifts until they have children of their own, and then I'll probably just give the kids a gift. I would feel differently if we had bigger families or we didn't see our families often. My oldest niece married last year, and I was pleasantly surprised when she sent me a gift for my birthday. However, I plan on telling her that in the future I'd be very happy with a card.
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Post by mjmone on Sept 28, 2014 14:41:12 GMT
ours is also at 18...then they join the adults. Which is no birthday gift (unless you find that something that is special)(and usually a small something), and Christmas when there is a relationship.
It may not have been that way, as some have mentioned...all the years there were no 'thank yous' or acknowledgement ...so we did start feeling like an 'atm machine'.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 28, 2014 15:01:44 GMT
My mom cut out by 16 for birthdays and I think 18 for Christmas...
It sucks when yours are the youngest because they typically don't get as many years of gift getting.
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Post by marimoose on Sept 28, 2014 15:06:50 GMT
I think you need to do what you are comfortable with. The mere fact that a gift appears to be expected would make that decision even easier for me. Gifts should be given from the heart and definitely only if you can afford them. The grandparents on both sides of our family have decided to cutoff birthday gifts and one set has cut off Christmas too. The first set simply cut off birthdays totally one year. Yes, seems rather unfair to the youngest grandkids but on the other hand, no one should simply expect a gift. My dad and his wife decided no gifts past 21 for any of us and told us AND you know, I am totally fine with that. They are on a fixed income and what extra monies they have should be spent on them traveling an denying life.
I stopped gifts to nieces and nephews several years ago (they are all adults now) because we were very tight for money with our own four kids and I decided I would rather gift our children knowing that I could pick something I knew they wanted. Gift giving became such a hassle and so many duplicate or unusable gifts given and received, not to mention the added stress of shopping for all the extra gifts. Just being honest. The holidays are meant to be enjoyed, not anticipated with the stress of needing to go on shopping marathons. It also seemed wasteful on all sides of the family so I stepped up and said no more. I think we get caught up in the materialistic side of things and miss what is really important. This doesn't diminish how we care for our relatives, just not throwing gifts at them. I would prefer the gift or time or gifting them when I find something that I know is perfect or I have made a personalized gift like an afghan. Unexpected gifts are the best kind.
I think your idea is very reasonable. Once implemented, it will be easier than you expect.
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on Sept 28, 2014 15:11:05 GMT
I would like to I only have 1 niece (9) and 1 nephew (12) (dh's sister's kids). We only see them at holidays as dh is not close with his sister. We never get thank you's or phone calls from them or even an invite to their house. I'm just kinda over it.
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Post by Basket1lady on Sept 28, 2014 15:14:51 GMT
We stopped when we no longer received any "thank yous" or other forms of acknowledgement from the nieces/nephews. It was about the times that they graduated high school. What irks me, though, is that our child is much younger than those cousins. Although we sent gifts to all seven of those nieces/nephews for 17 or 18 years for birthdays and Christmases....as soon as those kids became adults for whatever reason everyone stopped sending our child any gifts any more...even though she was still young. This happened in our family as well. DH is the baby and is 10 years younger than his siblings. When the older siblings' kids graduated HS, the in laws decided we were all done with gift giving because the kids were too old now. But the thing was, my kids were 8 & 10. We gave gifts through college for some of the nieces and nephews, but our kids were still in elementary school (and believing in Santa) when their gifts stopped. It still chaps my hide.
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Post by akathy on Sept 28, 2014 15:17:19 GMT
We quit at high school graduation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 16:05:51 GMT
I don't have any nieces or nephews on my side of the family, but DH has 27 so it has always been the rule that names are drawn at Christmas, nothing for birthdays, and whatever is desired at wedding/graduations (but nothing is expected). Most of the nieces/nephews do have an aunt or uncle that is a Godparent so they usually do something a little extra for birthdays, etc. With such a large family, they have always tried to take the emphasis off of gifts for/from everyone.
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Post by padresfan619 on Sept 28, 2014 16:18:40 GMT
We didn't stop buying gifts but we did decide to draw names. So now we only buy one gift for one person. It really takes away the stress of gift buying and you avoid buying stuff just to buy it because you need a gift to wrap.
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Post by tuva42 on Sept 28, 2014 16:22:36 GMT
We haven't stopped. We have 12 nieces and nephews between age 10 and 34. The older ones now are married, have houses, children. I've enjoyed being able to help them out with gifts as they set up houses, start families, etc.
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Post by Pahina722 on Sept 28, 2014 16:25:00 GMT
DH and I each have one sibling. DH's sister has two daughters (16 and 5) whom we both gift and receive gifts from. My SIL is a very loving aunt, adored by our son. We will probably continue giving gifts forever.
My brother has one child, my 28 year old nephew. Although I was a very involved aunt, when we adopted my son, my brother gave him no attention,never gave birthday gifts and has never initiated contact with my son. (We live in the same city.) I mentioned it to my mother a few times, but she just shrugged it off with a "you know how your brother is." Meanwhile, my nephew kept asking me to give him odd jobs to earn extra cash, sending birthday and Christmas gift lists, and expecting me to help him with discounts on textbooks at my college. After he stole from my son, I cut off contact, not to mention gifts. My brother has never said a word about it.
The point: do whatever works for you and your family. If you're close, can afford it, and don't feel as if the kids just feel entitled to a gift, I would try to continue. But if you aren't close and/or they don't appear grateful, end it.
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Post by amom23 on Sept 28, 2014 16:28:42 GMT
Nope. I don't think age limits for gifts make sense and I don't see why a person should be "punished" for becoming an adult. I purchase for all the nieces, nephews and cousins. I think gifting is fun and should include everyone... not just little kids. I'd be pretty sad if my family implemented a rule like that. Of course you should continue to give gifts if that's what makes you happy. I only stopped giving my niece a gift for her birthday and Christmas when she was in college and I never received a thank you - ever. Heck in this day and age send a simple text message. Niece is just a different type of person.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 16:29:30 GMT
I don't have any nieces or nephews. I know that my Aunt stopped giving me and my sister gifts after 20. Around that time, our gift exchanges at Christmas became a draw-names kind of exchange. Then it became an ornament exchange. Then when I had my oldest and my younger cousin had her son (they're 2 months apart), Christmas became all about them and we were lucky if we got a card for birthday or christmas. I recently found out that my aunt favors my two cousins because "they need more" and they still get monetary gifts for their birthdays and Christmas.
If I was still married to my ex, I'm sure we'd still be giving his nieces and nephew a gift but after 14, I think it should be cash or gift cards. I'd continue until they were 21.
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Post by bdawnb on Sept 28, 2014 16:31:08 GMT
It wasn't so much an age as the realization they weren't even reciprocating with so much as a birthday card. I know everyone's expenses are different so I don't expect a gift, but they could definitely afford a birthday card or even a handwritten note and a stamp. So this year we decided the 34, 30 and 27 year old no longer will receive gifts.
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Post by rumplesnat on Sept 28, 2014 16:35:14 GMT
My sister, the one with the older kids, was the one to suggest no gifts after 18. I still do cards for birthdays and little gifts, like a $5 gas card, for Christmas.
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Post by sbartist on Sept 28, 2014 16:40:03 GMT
I have not read all of the responses. I have one son, my brother has two daughters, so I get where you can feel lopsided on gift giving/receiving. When my son turned 19 (he is now 21), the gifts AND cards stopped altogether for him from my brother/SIL. Fine, I can play that game too. At a minimum, I feel my son should still be receiving a card. This act (along with other things I found out my SIL did or said about my parents), totally severed our relationship.
The sad thing is, I enjoyed shopping for my nieces, because I had a son. But, you burn my son because of his age, then I am done.
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