inkedup
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Post by inkedup on Dec 19, 2018 17:03:51 GMT
Are salaries tied into how much canned food is brought in? you're joking right?? Obviously.
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Post by christine58 on Dec 19, 2018 18:15:21 GMT
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J u l e e
Drama Llama
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Jun 28, 2014 2:50:47 GMT
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Post by J u l e e on Dec 19, 2018 20:26:35 GMT
It could be fun to have a little competition in each class to see what the most unusual canned item brought in is, or guess how many total cans of green beans will be donated. Stuff like that. But requiring it of the whole class tied to anything (a party, a test) shouldn't happen.
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Post by pierkiss on Dec 19, 2018 20:44:35 GMT
As others have said, you need to send a letter, make a call or talk directly to the principal with your concerns. I don't think making kids take a test because they didn't bring canned goods in, is ok at all. Incentives are one thing, but punishment is another! I know. On one hand I feel like...it's canned food...just suck it up and move on. And I didn't SEE it written. But I do wonder if teachers already were going to give a test and used this canned food drive as a push to *maybe* change their minds?? As if a truck load of canned food showed up or something??? I am looking for alternative thinking here from teachers. So this is really email worthy ?? I'm just usually bitchy so I don't pay much attention to my inner complaining. Honestly yes. A canned food drive is not the time to to use a peer pressure based classwide management technique to get the kids to do something they maybe cannot do. The kids cannot drive themselves to the grocery store and buy their own cans to donate. Perhaps if the teacher had phrased it as, “if we get 100% class participation where everyone brings in at least 1 can, I will cancel the already scheduled test” I wouldn’t think too much of it. But by flat out telling them that here will be a punishment if everyone doesn’t bring in x cans is crap. It’s no longer a donation. It’s no longer an event to help teach the children about kindness and giving during his season. It is now an excuse to be mean to the class as a whole, as well as an open opportunity for the kids who brought in cans to turn on and be mean to those who did not. And that is totally unacceptable in my book.
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Post by myshelly on Dec 19, 2018 20:45:07 GMT
I feel like one usually does.
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PrettyInPeank
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Jun 25, 2014 21:31:58 GMT
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Dec 19, 2018 21:01:47 GMT
This irritates me. Penalizing students who don't bring cans. Did it occur to them that some of the recipients of said cans could be their very own students?
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Post by SockMonkey on Dec 19, 2018 21:03:03 GMT
are on the line? I "donated" 15 cans of food to my dd's school like we were hostages. One class the teacher said if my dd donated 10 cans they'd get a free homework pass. Ok whatever. The other teacher wrote on the board "Canned food = movie No canned food = Test " So the whole class gets a test today because not everyone brought in canned food. Are salaries tied into how much canned food is brought in? At this point, I don't feel like this is a donation. It's extortion. What are they really teaching kids anyway? I think it would be to hate canned food drives. I am a teacher. Those teachers should NOT be tying academics to things like bringing in canned food. It punishes those who cannot afford it, it flies in the face of assessment literacy, and it puts an undue burden on parents. I would really like to have a long, pointed conversation with those teachers about what they’re trying to accomplish with this kind of nonsense, and what it teaches kids about service and charity.
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Post by Lexica on Dec 19, 2018 21:06:03 GMT
Eh, usually the teachers who push really hard on something like this are just having a bit of fun. The teacher with the test probably had a test scheduled for that day anyway. December is a hard month for teachers and students. An opportunity to engage in a bit of friendly competition for a good cause is just a distraction from the grind. I wouldn't take it too seriously. I am hoping this is the reason too. And a test isn’t a punishment, it is a chance to learn how much you have retained on whatever subject. If it were a punishment, the teacher would be punishing themselves too since they have to spend his/her time grading these tests and would have probably preferred the movie just so he/she can have a bit of holiday relaxation too. I convinced my son that tests were a fun thing when he was in school as a kid. I had always loved them myself, just to reaffirm that something was definitely “in there” in my brain. Fortunately, my son was a knowledge sponge like I was and enjoyed taking tests to see what all his mind had hung onto too. And if he got something wrong, it just showed him that item slipped through the cracks and he needed to go over it again. Not the end of the world. I never punished for bad grades. Well, I told him I wouldn’t do so, It wasn’t an issue because he didn’t’ really bring any bad grade home. And I didn’t do a big reward for good grades either. I would congratulate him on how well he had paid attention and remark on how he was so fortunate to have the abilities he had and that I was very proud of him. That gave him more satisfaction and self worth than a material prize.
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Post by christine58 on Dec 19, 2018 21:58:53 GMT
I feel like one usually does. Not here...LOL
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SabrinaP
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Jun 26, 2014 12:16:22 GMT
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Post by SabrinaP on Dec 19, 2018 23:54:34 GMT
It’s just a tactic to get the kids to remember. In previous years my kids school has run a “competition”. Which ever class brings in the most food gets XYZ. Jen This. We do a district wide competition. My 6th graders ran it. We had incentives for every 200 items collected by grade level. My school ended up collecting over 6000 items and the entire district of 40,000 items. The items go to our local food pantry. They said on Facebook this will keep them in items for 6 months. We really just need to give the kids a reason to remember to ask their parents. I teach in a solid middle class community. Most of my parents are very willing to donate as long as the kids communicate it with them. My 6th grade team likes to do challenges. We challenged our kids that each homeroom teacher would match the items brought by their homeroom item for item up to 100 on the first day of the drive. I ended up having to bring 96 items! Kids loved it!
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