sassyangel
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Jun 26, 2014 23:58:32 GMT
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 1, 2019 17:26:45 GMT
leaving at the end of his 8.5 hours with tasks unfinished and not letting DH know he's leaving, just not a team player. You never said what work they all do but I never understood why it's considered a poor work ethic to leave at the end of your shift. Especially if a person is salaried rather then paid hourly. That means no overtime pay. The guy had asked off months before DH took over Then he gets his time off if it was approved. They tried that once with me at the hospital I worked at. They would call us in for overtime and our choices were "time back" or "time and a half pay". I said I would come in and work the 8 hour night for a certain 12 hour Saturday night off in the future (I gave the date). They were desperate for the shift coverage and I really wanted that night off. Well they instituted a policy saying that the shift supervisor could not promise us certain weekend shifts off any more. They tried to take my Saturday night back and I threatened to go to the union because I had been promised it before the policy changed. I also never did a weekend OT or night shift OT ever again. I didn't care how much they begged, I only did the OT to get myself the Saturday nights off. DH had just gone in to make sure the guy was there because if he had been, DH could have taken a 1/2 day of vacation and would only lose 3 for the year. I thought no one could take vacation? DH has already started the termination process with HR, but does nothing to salvage our day. Probably should of been done a long time ago due to the no calls no shows. I assume the other no call no shows are being laid off too. How does he get the time, regardless - if he doesn't have the vacation hours banked to take them now? Did you miss that? In my company you wouldn't get them if you didn't have the hours earned to take them. Regardless of if they'd been approved already.
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moodyblue
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Jun 26, 2014 21:07:23 GMT
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Post by moodyblue on Jan 1, 2019 20:08:30 GMT
You never said what work they all do but I never understood why it's considered a poor work ethic to leave at the end of your shift. Especially if a person is salaried rather then paid hourly. That means no overtime pay. Then he gets his time off if it was approved. They tried that once with me at the hospital I worked at. They would call us in for overtime and our choices were "time back" or "time and a half pay". I said I would come in and work the 8 hour night for a certain 12 hour Saturday night off in the future (I gave the date). They were desperate for the shift coverage and I really wanted that night off. Well they instituted a policy saying that the shift supervisor could not promise us certain weekend shifts off any more. They tried to take my Saturday night back and I threatened to go to the union because I had been promised it before the policy changed. I also never did a weekend OT or night shift OT ever again. I didn't care how much they begged, I only did the OT to get myself the Saturday nights off. I thought no one could take vacation? Probably should of been done a long time ago due to the no calls no shows. I assume the other no call no shows are being laid off too. How does he get the time, regardless - if he doesn't have the vacation hours banked to take them now? Did you miss that? In my company you wouldn't get them if you didn't have the hours earned to take them. Regardless of if they'd been approved already. I wonder if he DID have the time when he first scheduled the time off but then ended up using hours after that that then put him below the number needed?
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sassyangel
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Jun 26, 2014 23:58:32 GMT
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 1, 2019 20:47:41 GMT
How does he get the time, regardless - if he doesn't have the vacation hours banked to take them now? Did you miss that? In my company you wouldn't get them if you didn't have the hours earned to take them. Regardless of if they'd been approved already. I wonder if he DID have the time when he first scheduled the time off but then ended up using hours after that that then put him below the number needed? That’s exactly what I thought. If you can’t take time off without pay, as she said is their policy, then those days he had initially might have had to go towards covering his no shows. In which case it’s his own fault that he didn’t have them to take them.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jan 1, 2019 21:12:27 GMT
If he didn't have the hours on the books that should have been addressed weeks before he left for vacation and arrangements made. For those that have the use it or loose it you usually know for a month or so before hand and just use it earlier. This is common and if this is your busy time then you use the time before the busy season hits. Employees should be able to check the number of hours/days they have on the books and how many can be carried over. This is so common and I know at my husbands job they suggest when to take the time off - you don't have to use it at that time but it is highly recommended and luckily it usually works out fine for us so he takes it then. It sounds like a lot of policies need to be put into place to prevent hard feelings and people taking advantage or just leaving you understaffed in the future. The idea that a person can approve it when it is a time that you will be understaffed makes no sense. Now those that don't come in when scheduled on a regular basis - HR need to get involved that is unacceptable anywhere. Obviously things come up and exceptions need to be made but if it is the same person all the time unless it really is an emergency HR needs to step in and there needs to be a process to remove them. It also depends on what kind of job it is. I know at hubby's job there are several that are dealing with sick spouses and they are working around it as much as possible but it all depends on what kind of job you have. Others have stepped up but they have all been there for more than a decade so not a high turnover type of place.
Good luck to your husband having to deal with being put in a situation to try and fix it.
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Post by lauradrumm on Jan 3, 2019 5:57:11 GMT
How does he keep his job?! Document, document, document!
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