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Post by monklady123 on Jan 3, 2019 18:22:06 GMT
My dh is "essential" (although I don't think they use that word anymore) so he's working anyway, although not getting paid. We are very fortunate not to be living paycheck to paycheck so we're fine. However, dh has tomorrow off and we'd planned to go to the Udvar-Hazy site of the Air and Space Museum (I've never been) but the Smithsonian just ran out of money so it's closed. I grumbled about it, but of course that's the equivalent of a first-world problem... petty when others are struggling to pay rent or buy groceries or buy medicine or whatever else they need.
Anyone here being affected in some way?
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Post by deekaye on Jan 3, 2019 18:25:11 GMT
Planned snow-shoe trip had to be cancelled because the Lodge we stay in (National Park) closed.  |
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Post by lucyg on Jan 3, 2019 18:32:29 GMT
One of my nephews is a U.S. park ranger. I don’t know if he’s actually working or not ... he’s the law enforcement kind of ranger, not the naturalist kind, so maybe they’re still working. I’ll find out when I talk to my stepmother (his grandma).
My niece tried to walk across the Golden Gate Bridge the other day, but the footpath was closed due to the shutdown. I guess the Feds operate the footpath? Or maybe just the land on the approach. Anyway, they couldn’t get to the bridge on foot.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jan 3, 2019 18:34:47 GMT
We were in DV this weekend and there is trash EVRYWHERE in some of the areas of the national mall. It’s absolsutely disgusting.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jan 3, 2019 18:43:21 GMT
I have a friend on FB that posted he isn't working (I don't know exactly what he does) but he had a good point .. He said that when you sign up for working for the Federal Government you know going in that this will happen sooner or later. He also said when he was hired they specifically go over this.. so he was basically saying he isn't upset at this point.
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Post by ntsf on Jan 3, 2019 18:46:15 GMT
The golden gate bridge is not federal.. but they close the parking lots near the bridge due to holiday traffic backup.. you are not prevented from walking on the bridge anytime.. just may have to be more creative on parking or take bus to toll plaza..
the land surrounding the bridge is federal.. national recreation area. the city is picking up some of the trash.. my dh can't take the dog to the favorite walk --again, it is near the beach and part of the national recreation area and the parking lot is closed.
when I was a park ranger, I lived through shutdowns.. and the sites suffer.. and how much more money will have to be spent to clean up the mess... so it costs us all more money..
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Post by monklady123 on Jan 3, 2019 18:51:16 GMT
We were in DV this weekend and there is trash EVRYWHERE in some of the areas of the national mall. It’s absolsutely disgusting. Yes, my dh said it's awful. I don't understand people who continue to pile trash on top of trash...why don't they just take it with them until they get back to their office or hotel or house, somewhere where they know the trash will be picked up. We all do it in state parks so it's not that difficult. If I could brag on my dh and some of his colleagues... they've started taking garbage bags with them and at lunch they walk down to the mall area and at least bag up what they can.  Kind of like trying to stop the ocean with a wall of sand but he said it makes him feel like he's making a small difference. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 3, 2019 18:58:20 GMT
I have a friend on FB that posted he isn't working (I don't know exactly what he does) but he had a good point .. He said that when you sign up for working for the Federal Government you know going in that this will happen sooner or later. He also said when he was hired they specifically go over this.. so he was basically saying he isn't upset at this point. It could likely just be my politics talking here, but even knowing this could happen (and that does happen regardless of the administration) I would not be happy for the reason of this one. |
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Post by heckofagal on Jan 3, 2019 19:03:40 GMT
My DH is 'essential' so he is still working and won't get a paycheck until the shutdown is over. And of course the non-essential people are not going to complain, they are getting some extra vacation days that they will eventually be paid for.
It's just a nuisance right now, but I know in the past we've had big vacation plans almost get ruined by a near shut-down because essential personnel are not allowed to take PTO during a shut-down. And a friend of DH's ran into some issues while getting cancer treatments during a shut-down.
But I'm all for staying shut-down for a while if it means Donnie does not get to throw a temper tantrum just to get his way.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jan 3, 2019 19:04:16 GMT
I'm not directly affected but since I live in the DC suburbs, pretty much everyone around me is affected in some way. While I am annoyed and pissed off that we have to get to this point, I am liking the commute with far fewer cars on the road.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 19:05:07 GMT
I live near a town with a national guard base and a VA hospital. Many parents I know from my kids' activities are employed through the federal government in some way. About half are still working. DH's company has a few government contracts. The federal ones are on hold for now. For him, it means certain employees no longer get overtime.
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Post by dald222 on Jan 3, 2019 19:06:41 GMT
I am sorry that you are all dealing with this.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 3, 2019 19:17:58 GMT
my guess would have been that people who are leaving the trash don't think about the fact that it's not getting picked up? But that's from my viewpoint back here in AZ, not living there where I'm imagining the shutdown and its affects are on the news. I hope the Democrats can make something happen; these kinds of shutdowns don't do anything but hurt people, infrastructure, and look bad. It does seem like it's all about grandstanding-- since one of the main responsibilities of the government SHOULD be to KEEP IT RUNNING, in my opinion.
As to the person who said the employees know going in that a govt shutdown could always be an option; did they happen in prior years, too, and I just wasn't paying attention, before?? (I mean like before the 1980s-90s.)
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Post by tiffanyr on Jan 3, 2019 19:27:05 GMT
As to the person who said the employees know going in that a govt shutdown could always be an option; did they happen in prior years, too, and I just wasn't paying attention, before?? (I mean like before the 1980s-90s.) Yes, the first gov't shutdown was in 1976. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 3, 2019 19:28:45 GMT
thx. are they typically disputes over funding, like this one? (this one is about funding something totally unrelated, though, which is what makes it so wrong, in my opinion.)
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Post by verdepea on Jan 3, 2019 19:51:31 GMT
We were in DV this weekend and there is trash EVRYWHERE in some of the areas of the national mall. It’s absolsutely disgusting. Wasn't it bow tie Tuckerton who said Immigrants make America dirtier? He certainly doesn't take out the trash. Americans can't pick up after themselves either. It's embarrassing because they probably middle class Americans who made reservations well in advance. |
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Post by chedanemi on Jan 3, 2019 19:57:03 GMT
My DH is 'essential' so he is still working and won't get a paycheck until the shutdown is over. And of course the non-essential people are not going to complain, they are getting some extra vacation days that they will eventually be paid for. ^^^This^^^ I was essential, so I worked through several shutdowns, including the 1995-96 one which was about 27 days of no pay. Of course we got the back pay, but all those non-essential employees got their back pay AND 27 days off over the holidays without using a day of vacation time! |
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Post by monklady123 on Jan 3, 2019 19:58:29 GMT
my guess would have been that people who are leaving the trash don't think about the fact that it's not getting picked up? But that's from my viewpoint back here in AZ, not living there where I'm imagining the shutdown and its affects are on the news. I hope the Democrats can make something happen; these kinds of shutdowns don't do anything but hurt people, infrastructure, and look bad. It does seem like it's all about grandstanding-- since one of the main responsibilities of the government SHOULD be to KEEP IT RUNNING, in my opinion. As to the person who said the employees know going in that a govt shutdown could always be an option; did they happen in prior years, too, and I just wasn't paying attention, before?? (I mean like before the 1980s-90s.) Maybe in the very beginning when the can wasn't really overflowing. But now it's beyond obvious that there's a problem with the trash pickup. Faced with a mound of trash I would think anyone might say to themselves "hmm... I guess I'll take my sandwich wrapper and Coke can back to the office/hotel/home with me and throw it away there". Here’s a photo of just one area.  |
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Post by anaterra on Jan 3, 2019 20:05:00 GMT
crimsoncat05 I know there was a Gov shut down in 2013... that is when I got married and I wasn't able to get my social security card changed until Jan of 2014...
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Post by anaterra on Jan 3, 2019 20:06:05 GMT
monklady123 that is insane!!!! Some people suck!!!! Bravo to ur dh and his friends
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Post by GamGam on Jan 3, 2019 20:12:21 GMT
We were in DV this weekend and there is trash EVRYWHERE in some of the areas of the national mall. It’s absolsutely disgusting. Yes, my dh said it's awful. I don't understand people who continue to pile trash on top of trash...why don't they just take it with them until they get back to their office or hotel or house, somewhere where they know the trash will be picked up. We all do it in state parks so it's not that difficult. If I could brag on my dh and some of his colleagues... they've started taking garbage bags with them and at lunch they walk down to the mall area and at least bag up what they can. Kind of like trying to stop the ocean with a wall of sand but he said it makes him feel like he's making a small difference. Give him a big hug from me. 😊 |
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Post by needmysanity on Jan 3, 2019 20:18:35 GMT
I work for a non profit victim services agency and we are really affected by the shut down. Our HUD grants, AIDS/HIV housing, Human Trafficking and Elder Abuse grants are all frozen. We also have 7 state grants that have federal funding in them. They will be able to fund us through January 18th and then will also be frozen. Those funds run our domestic violence shelter and rape crisis center as well as other programs.
We are on essential spending only so travel, training and extra program supplies are all halted. We have enough in reserves to get us through 3 pay periods and then another 3 on our line of credit. We have 116 employees so we are crossing our fingers we won't have to lay anyone off.
We have been reaching out to the community for help for things like food for the clients at the shelter, buss passes, etc and people have been very generous. As CFO I watch the government antics pretty closely because it really does affect our daily life here. It's scary because we would hate turning away a client who really needs our help.
Also...because of the government shut down some laws lapsed that affect our domestic violence clients from getting the protections they need. The laws won't be reinstated until the government reopens.
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Post by mikklynn on Jan 3, 2019 20:29:34 GMT
I'm not affected, but I think it's shameful. God bless the volunteers cleaning up: linkJust Google volunteers cleaning National Parks for more stories.  |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 3, 2019 20:45:29 GMT
I work for a non profit victim services agency and we are really affected by the shut down. Our HUD grants, AIDS/HIV housing, Human Trafficking and Elder Abuse grants are all frozen. We also have 7 state grants that have federal funding in them. They will be able to fund us through January 18th and then will also be frozen. Those funds run our domestic violence shelter and rape crisis center as well as other programs. We are on essential spending only so travel, training and extra program supplies are all halted. We have enough in reserves to get us through 3 pay periods and then another 3 on our line of credit. We have 116 employees so we are crossing our fingers we won't have to lay anyone off. We have been reaching out to the community for help for things like food for the clients at the shelter, buss passes, etc and people have been very generous. As CFO I watch the government antics pretty closely because it really does affect our daily life here. It's scary because we would hate turning away a client who really needs our help. Also...because of the government shut down some laws lapsed that affect our domestic violence clients from getting the protections they need. The laws won't be reinstated until the government reopens. That really does speak to the widespread impact of it. It’s not just directly employees going without pay, but so many federally funded programs (and those who depend on them for help and their salories too), that are impacted. ☹️ |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 20:51:54 GMT
My dh is "essential" (although I don't think they use that word anymore) so he's working anyway, although not getting paid. We are very fortunate not to be living paycheck to paycheck so we're fine. However, dh has tomorrow off and we'd planned to go to the Udvar-Hazy site of the Air and Space Museum (I've never been) but the Smithsonian just ran out of money so it's closed. I grumbled about it, but of course that's the equivalent of a first-world problem... petty when others are struggling to pay rent or buy groceries or buy medicine or whatever else they need. Anyone here being affected in some way? My son is between state dept assignments at the moment. He was scheduled to complete his home leave early next month. Now, he doesn't know if this time counts as furlough so his next report date will change or it if counts as his home time so he will go on as previously scheduled. |
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 3, 2019 20:55:00 GMT
my guess would have been that people who are leaving the trash don't think about the fact that it's not getting picked up? But that's from my viewpoint back here in AZ, not living there where I'm imagining the shutdown and its affects are on the news. I hope the Democrats can make something happen; these kinds of shutdowns don't do anything but hurt people, infrastructure, and look bad. It does seem like it's all about grandstanding-- since one of the main responsibilities of the government SHOULD be to KEEP IT RUNNING, in my opinion. As to the person who said the employees know going in that a govt shutdown could always be an option; did they happen in prior years, too, and I just wasn't paying attention, before?? (I mean like before the 1980s-90s.) Maybe in the very beginning when the can wasn't really overflowing. But now it's beyond obvious that there's a problem with the trash pickup. Faced with a mound of trash I would think anyone might say to themselves "hmm... I guess I'll take my sandwich wrapper and Coke can back to the office/hotel/home with me and throw it away there". Here’s a photo of just one area. They should put up a poster that says "effects of the shutdown" - unfortunately I've been on the mall when it looks like that because people are fucking lazy assholes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 21:00:41 GMT
I work for the VA and I am essential, and getting paid. Thank goodness, I pay the utilities and groceries... :0
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Post by needmysanity on Jan 3, 2019 21:08:57 GMT
I work for a non profit victim services agency and we are really affected by the shut down. Our HUD grants, AIDS/HIV housing, Human Trafficking and Elder Abuse grants are all frozen. We also have 7 state grants that have federal funding in them. They will be able to fund us through January 18th and then will also be frozen. Those funds run our domestic violence shelter and rape crisis center as well as other programs. We are on essential spending only so travel, training and extra program supplies are all halted. We have enough in reserves to get us through 3 pay periods and then another 3 on our line of credit. We have 116 employees so we are crossing our fingers we won't have to lay anyone off. We have been reaching out to the community for help for things like food for the clients at the shelter, buss passes, etc and people have been very generous. As CFO I watch the government antics pretty closely because it really does affect our daily life here. It's scary because we would hate turning away a client who really needs our help. Also...because of the government shut down some laws lapsed that affect our domestic violence clients from getting the protections they need. The laws won't be reinstated until the government reopens. That really does speak to the widespread impact of it. It’s not just directly employees going without pay, but so many federally funded programs (and those who depend on them for help and their salories too), that are impacted. ☹️ Yes it is very wide spread. We understand that relying on government grants this "could" happen so we try to have a reserve just in case. But it's still scary and is hard to tell a client no they can't receive services when they are in the middle of a traumatic event. |
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Post by craftmepink on Jan 3, 2019 21:13:17 GMT
Yes, I'm a contractor and have to take leave until the agency I support opens up again. I'm pretty annoyed about this whole situation since we're going to be entering week 3 of this next week. It doesn't look like they are coming to any agreement anytime soon. Please no politics.
I'm trying to see the silver lining in this whole situation, I've never had 2 weeks off in a row before.
I feel bad for the people living paycheck to paycheck and the breadwinner in their family. Small businesses also depend on federal employees to spend money (the small mom and pop deli cafes, food trucks, etc...).
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Post by Tearisci on Jan 3, 2019 21:18:18 GMT
my guess would have been that people who are leaving the trash don't think about the fact that it's not getting picked up? But that's from my viewpoint back here in AZ, not living there where I'm imagining the shutdown and its affects are on the news. I hope the Democrats can make something happen; these kinds of shutdowns don't do anything but hurt people, infrastructure, and look bad. It does seem like it's all about grandstanding-- since one of the main responsibilities of the government SHOULD be to KEEP IT RUNNING, in my opinion. As to the person who said the employees know going in that a govt shutdown could always be an option; did they happen in prior years, too, and I just wasn't paying attention, before?? (I mean like before the 1980s-90s.) Maybe in the very beginning when the can wasn't really overflowing. But now it's beyond obvious that there's a problem with the trash pickup. Faced with a mound of trash I would think anyone might say to themselves "hmm... I guess I'll take my sandwich wrapper and Coke can back to the office/hotel/home with me and throw it away there". Here’s a photo of just one area. we Well, the ever present DC rats will be ecstatic! |
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Kind of like trying to stop the ocean with a wall of sand but he said it makes him feel like he's making a small difference. 
