*Survivor - San Juan del Sur* Discussion Thread October 1st!

excited to watch tonight!

Last night I watched the first episode and was so thrilled when "Twinnie" got votes off. She sure didn't have anything to say after that!!

I think it is going to be a really good season!!

What a great episode! I was yelling and cheering at the TV almost the entire hour. Okay, first of all have you ever heard of any of the Survivors losing flint before? I can't remember it happening before (but again my memory is horrid) and it's happened over and over this season so far. I really thought it was great of Jon (was that his name?) to admit right away that he was the one who lost it to everyone. Standing up and admitting you're the one that did the bad deed took guts and I admire him a lot for that. Honestly I thought for sure he was going home tonight just for that-I mean, to lose all of that great fishing gear after such a hard reward challenge-it was so close neck to neck the entire time, to give all of that up just to get back the flint was a tough blow for the entire team. It must have been the other team that went to tribal tonight. I'm still learning who is who.

Jeremy. Oh my gosh! How could you be soooo stupid and share your clue at Exile Island with a racist like John Rocker? I honestly could NOT believe he did that. That was such a stupid move. Your wife was smart and kept her clue to herself one day one, well even if she didn't find the idol. If he had just kept that clue info to himself he would have found the idol not that horrid person John Rocker. I cannot stand that guy! I didn't know him at all from the past because I do not follow team sports, but I of course read his infamous quote and can't stand him for his racist, homophobic, and sexist attitudes. Did you hear what he said when he lost to his girlfriend in the challenge. BTW, I'm surprised you didn't hear me cheering all the way from my house to your's when he lost. Something about, "well I didn't just lose to my girlfriend, I lost to a girl" I yelled at the TV-"You sexist pig!" Oh my-how can she date him? She is gorgeous, but her IQ must be sorely lacking.

On to the immunity challenge. Oh goodie-it's a water challenge. I really love those. Oh no-it's the boring who can knock who in the water. But wait a minute, John Rocker not only gets knocked in the water but gets a bloody nose at the same time?! Now I know you heard me cheering from my house here in Maryland to wherever you were watching on that one!

The losing team treads back to their beach with their heads hanging low and they are deciding to split the votes between Val and Baylor while I'm thinking to myself, "C'mon folks, you had the discussion in the shelter while John Rocker was on Exile Island who he is. You know he's an ex pro ball player who's had his chance to make millions. Why the heck aren't you targeting him?" Maybe they want to save him for now just because of his physical strength. I guess as a team and it's very early so far that makes sense.

Anyway it looks like his true nature comes out by the reviews for next week anyway and his teammates realize even further what a jerk he is. Time will tell how long they decide to keep him around. I feel sorry that Val got voted out. BTW, Dale surprised me with his strength in that knock your opponent in the water-did you guys see that? He's the oldest guy on his team by 20 years that they talked about voting out because of his age. He's also the guy that made fire the first day with his reading glasses. I have to say I really like the guy. I think he found the first immunity idol by accident that Val had the clue for. He found something on the lid of the well and took it-I'm not sure he knew what it was at first. Can anyone confirm this?

I haven't read Dalton's review yet-I don't think it's up yet, but as usual I'm looking forward to it and to what you all have to say. Have a great night (or morning as it is 1:27 am here!)

Debbie in MD.

For the same reason I thought I might attend, finally, a book group at my church. ugh. Fortunately for me this was the last meeting for this particular book so I decided it was silly to go since I haven't read half the book. Next month they're starting a new one, so I have a month to make up an excuse. lol. (or, I could just watch it online the next day, which I *might* do.   )

40 yrs old and John Rocker is still challenging men to fight. Seriously? You've got quite the man there, Julie.

Also, as much as I dislike the Twinnies I did feel sorry for the one who's left (I never remember who's who). I know twins have a special bond to begin with, and she was really upset. She seems good at challenges and looks like she's working around camp, so maybe she'll last awhile. She might grow on me a bit since she won't have her Twinnie to talk to. Much of their annoyance factor, for me, was due to the way they talked with each other. 

Yes, that John Rocker is a real case. ugh.

That was "redemption island".

John seems like a real jerk, his gf is a walking talking advertisement for plastic surgery in my opinion.

Not sure why Val wouldn't actively try to find an idol that was dumb. Jeremy shouldn't have shared the clue either especially since he didn't know if Val was trying to find the idol still.

Not really sure how he thought John had the power to save Val, I don't think he would share an idol and he is just one vote and I doubt he would change the group's decision if they decided it was Val's time.

I liked Val in episode 1...I thought she was strong, independent and sassy.

I wished she was smart...because frankly...telling people you have TWO idols was just dumb. And she didn't even look for the idol when she got back to camp.

That could be, but I'm pretty sure they always show footage of someone looking for the idol...even if they don't find it.

Wow, I'd never heard of the baseball player and his quotes. After googling them I think he is a vile human being.

I liked last night's episode but like you guys, not so impressed with Val's game play. And to think Jeff had her picked for the win! I'm bummed because she was my dd's pick in the pool and because I like her dh, Jeremy. But honestly I didn't particularly like her in the game, right from the get-go. And the two idol thing was stupid--stupid to say and stupid for anyone believing it. I guess anything's possible though.

It was great to see John beat by his girlfriend AND great to see his true colors come out afterwards. Keep going John and dig your own grave. I have you in the pool but I do NOT want you to win (not that there's any danger of that happening).

I felt so bad for Missy, Baylor's mom. Really, how is she supposed to fight hard while her daughter is staring at her crying? Not fair. I was waiting for Baylor to say "Hah, gotcha, I'm not hurt that bad!" Frankly I was a little surprised at how she barely seemed like she could go on. I didn't see her lip swollen (and lips swell easily) so was she really hit that hard? I remember when one of the seasons Parvati was on, they had to push some cart or something and Parvati got whacked in the face good. I saw it happen and I saw her lip swell to huge proportions. I never saw her cry and never saw her have to step back and collect herself--she just kept going. I think Baylor should have sucked it up better. I guess strategically it worked out for her though since it through her mom off her game.

I don't think John sharing the clue with Jeremy was such a bad idea. He was trying to form relationships with the other tribe and find a strong ally for his wife. I thought it made sense. On Tocantins, the other season that used the two urns on Exile Island thing, they always shared the clues. Contestants were able to forge relationships and I think it helped them when the one tribe was outnumber, yet still prevailed, after the merge.

I thought that the reaction Baylor had just emphasized what a young person she is. I can't really see her as anything other than a kid. I was sorry she wasn't voted out.

I hope that Wes (?) gets the others rallied against the baseball player, for sure. I would hate to see him go much further. I laughed at him getting a bloody nose during that challenge. (I am not usually so cold-hearted, but that just seemed "right").

Oh, seeing Jeff laugh when Baylor and her mom hit heads made me laugh out loud, too.

I'm punchy from working too many OT hours lately.