AmandaA
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Post by AmandaA on Feb 19, 2019 19:39:54 GMT
Did anyone watch the town hall with Amy Klobuchqr last night? I liked her before and like her even more now. I didn’t watch, but just read this piece from CNN on it (https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/18/politics/klobuchar-pragmatic-approach/index.html). I really like some of the answers and explanations they highlighted. You gotta love a candidate who will say no instead of promising everyone a bunch of ridiculous crap that they cannot, and should not, deliver.
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cycworker
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Post by cycworker on Feb 19, 2019 19:41:08 GMT
I'm not sure you can dump the Electoral College - I think that's too complicated, constitutionally. You'd likely have to reform it... give votes based on % of popular vote. So, say Florida has 90 Elector College votes (I'm making up numbers). If 2/3 vote Republican, they only get 60 EC points. The Dems get the other 30.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 19, 2019 19:47:04 GMT
Did anyone watch the town hall with Amy Klobuchqr last night? I liked her before and like her even more now. I didn’t watch, but just read this piece from CNN on it (https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/18/politics/klobuchar-pragmatic-approach/index.html). I really like some of the answers and explanations they highlighted. You gotta love a candidate who will say no instead of promising everyone a bunch of ridiculous crap that they cannot, and should not, deliver. I agree. The look on that college kids face when she said that she didn’t support free college....I like that she went back and said that she would love to do that but we can’t afford it. I thought her answers on gun control and health care were more moderate as well, which should make a lot of people happy.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 19, 2019 19:48:24 GMT
I'm not sure you can dump the Electoral College - I think that's too complicated, constitutionally. You'd likely have to reform it... give votes based on % of popular vote. So, say Florida has 90 Elector College votes (I'm making up numbers). If 2/3 vote Republican, they only get 60 EC points. The Dems get the other 30. After the last election someone posted about this. They had a system that would account for both the popular vote and the electoral, and it seemed to line up very well with how people actually voted. I think that would be a good solution.
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AmandaA
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Post by AmandaA on Feb 19, 2019 20:03:18 GMT
I didn’t watch, but just read this piece from CNN on it (https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/18/politics/klobuchar-pragmatic-approach/index.html). I really like some of the answers and explanations they highlighted. You gotta love a candidate who will say no instead of promising everyone a bunch of ridiculous crap that they cannot, and should not, deliver. I agree. The look on that college kids face when she said that she didn’t support free college....I like that she went back and said that she would love to do that but we can’t afford it. I thought her answers on gun control and health care were more moderate as well, which should make a lot of people happy. I found a video of the town hall on YouTube and will have to watch it later. There are a few candidates that are a hard no for me, but she is one I would like to hear more from so thanks for bringing this up to discuss!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 20:13:35 GMT
ABC News...
”Pres. Trump on multi-state lawsuit challenging his national emergency declaration: "I think we'll do very well. We have absolute right to do that. I have an absolute right to call national security." abcn.ws/2DXLhj2”
He is such a ditz. A president does have the right to declare a national security/emergency. But it has to be a real one and not because little toddler is stamping his little feet because he can’t get what he wants.
I suspect the courts will lay out the guide lines for what a real national emergency is.
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Post by kmcginn on Feb 19, 2019 21:04:47 GMT
In my state the electoral votes are not split. If 1 part get a majority, they get all the electoral votes. So my vote never counts. I think we should scrap the EC and go for the majority vote instead. 1 person - 1 vote.
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Post by hop2 on Feb 19, 2019 21:05:14 GMT
And this is what I see conservatives moving towards. Unfortunately, yes, because they don’t even value thier own conservative values that they supposedly hold. They just want to stick it to ‘them’ anyone who is different from they are. It shows in the “your just sour ‘we’ won so deal with it” comments. It shows in the way they called John Mc Cain a RINO just because he actually tried to uphold the values he believed in ( that they supposedly believed in as well ) It shows when they brush Trump & co racist comments under the rug & when they support openly racist senators ( Sen King, Sen Hyde-Smith ) But Democrats can’t do so much as bat an eye without all hellbreaking loose. The president shouldn’t be calling Senators things like Pocahontas, He shouldn’t be commenting on Congress representatives hair ( the last thing he should be poking fun at us other people’s hair ) Every time they accept, & defend these actions it SHOULD be clear to everyone, even conservatives, that the things they supposedly value are no longer the goals if the current Republicans in Office. Honestly it should be even more clear to conservatives that the party no longer represents them. Unless of course the things represents mean more to them than thier supposed conservative values.
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Post by hop2 on Feb 19, 2019 21:09:57 GMT
trump... ”I never said anything bad about Andrew McCabe’s wife other than she (they) should not have taken large amounts of campaign money from a Crooked Hillary source when Clinton was under investigation by the FBI. I never called his wife a loser to him (another McCabe made up lie)! Ah, we are suppose to believe this guy, who tells 11 falsehoods a day? Really? It’s probably much more than that now, since 11 lies a day is the *average* and he started out pretty slow. no he’s always lied pretty much all the time. 11 lies a day are just the easily provable lies, rather than the hard to prove lies or the half truths twisted to fit his agenda.
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Post by carly1030 on Feb 19, 2019 21:16:14 GMT
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Post by Merge on Feb 19, 2019 21:39:02 GMT
Uh oh... looks like someone is getting called to the principal’s office! Judge Amy Berman Jackson would like to see Mr. Stone on Thursday regarding his recent social media activity Lock him up!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 21:46:18 GMT
Chris Geidner...
”JUST IN: Judge Amy Berman Jackson orders Roger Stone to explain why the gag order AND/OR his conditions of release shouldn't be changed after yesterday's Instagram post.”
Really that was a dumb stunt he pulled and I think they should “lock him up!”
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Post by Merge on Feb 19, 2019 21:53:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 21:58:54 GMT
linkGood question. Paul Waldman in The Washington Post.. “Why do we live under the tyranny of Iowa and New Hampshire?” “In November of 2015, Donald Trump had a probing question he wanted answered. “How stupid are the people of Iowa?” he asked, the trouble being that at the time he was trailing Ben Carson in the polls. The good people of Iowa later gave Ted Cruz a victory in the GOP caucuses, with Trump coming in second. It was part of Trump's mad genius that he could get away with saying things like that, but other candidates are not so lucky. In fact, they are called upon to perform a ritual of supplication before the citizens of Iowa and New Hampshire if they want to reach the Oval Office, one that is only made more humiliating by the fact that they have to pretend to enjoy every moment of it. And if they should forget for a moment they’ll be reminded, as this story about Kamala Harris illustrates: And her chances of capturing New Hampshire were viewed with such a jaundiced eye by local media that one of Harris’ first exchanges during a two-day swing — with an in-state reporter — included a not-so-subtle reminder that she waited weeks after announcing her White House bid to travel to the Granite State. “We’re glad you’re here,” the reporter told Harris. Then he asked whether her absence helped feed the perception that New Hampshire isn’t a high priority. Another interviewer — this one on ABC affiliate WMUR — was more direct: “We haven’t seen much of you in the previous two years. Why was that?” he asked. “The narrative is out there, I guess, that ‘Sen. Harris is focusing elsewhere.’” How dare she not spend every available moment there, showing New Hampshire voters how wonderfully special they are to her? Granted, this wasn't New Hampshire voters asking those questions, it was the state's reporters. But everyone there has an interest in keeping that first-in-the-nation status. It means money for hotels and restaurants from the influx of reporters and campaign operatives every four years, but even more importantly, it means attention, influence, and status. Local activists are courted by national figures and local politicians can expect to be treated like kings and queens. Manchester has about the same population as Gresham, Oregon or Palm Bay, Florida, but the mayors of those towns probably won't have every presidential candidate calling them up, flattering them, and begging for their support. Likewise, the reporters who grilled Harris for her insufficient attention to the state were jealously guarding their own place of importance in this most important process. And what did they all do to deserve that status? Not much. It's mostly an accident of history, having to do with party reforms made between the 1968 and 1972 elections that took the decision of who would be the nominees out of the smoke-filled rooms and into the voting booth, giving us the primary system we have today. Before then it didn't much matter which state was first and which last, since primaries and caucuses didn't determine delegates to the party conventions. But once the power they were wielding became clear, people in Iowa and New Hampshire made sure we all accepted that their status is somehow natural and proper. It isn't going to change; both states have laws mandating that their contests take place before any other states. The two states aren't representative of the country; both are more rural and white than America overall. But more to the point, no one or two states could represent the nation. And their long traditions of primacy have led them to insist not only that they get this inordinate attention, but that candidates pretend that there is no greater honor than spending a disproportionate amount of time courting the voters of those two states.Even if you don't agree with Trump that the people of Iowa are particularly stupid, you can't say they're more insightful or wise than other Americans. They have their parochial concerns like anyone else (ethanol!) and they've come to expect a particularly personal brand of politics from presidential candidates, in which it isn't enough to have a strong policy agenda or a praiseworthy character. You have to come and demonstrate it to each of them. Personally. Which means that candidates who are deft at that kind of personal interaction are more likely to do well. It isn’t a guarantee — Donald Trump came in second in Iowa and won New Hampshire despite the fact that he avoided getting too close to voters, preferring to campaign in a series of rallies — but the system definitely favors those whose personal charm helps them excel at the one-on-one schmooze. Which, it should be noted, is something presidents don't really need to do in order to govern the country. It might be entertaining to watch the future leader of the free world try desperately to "connect" with voters down at the Laconia VFW hall or at a coffee klatch in somebody's living room in Dubuque, but it doesn't tell us much of anything about what sort of president they'd be. What may be the worst part of all, however, isn't the fault of the Iowa and New Hampshire voters. It's the way candidates are brutally culled by the news media if they fail to perform well enough in those two states — a decision made according to a set of arbitrary and ever-shifting criteria in which sometimes coming in second or third is a terrible defeat and sometimes it's a glorious victory. A few thousand votes in those contests can be the difference between "This candidate is a magnificent hero whom all in the party have come to admire" and "This candidate is a pathetic loser who ought to do us all a favor and disappear." In a better world, we'd have a system in which the order of primaries changed every year, with some guarantee that the earliest few would be more representative of the country (urban and rural, large and small, and so on). It is helpful that Iowa and New Hampshire are followed by Nevada and South Carolina, which have large Latino and African-American populations respectively. Nevertheless, we’re still living under the tyranny of the first two states, and we may never be able to pry them off the perch they now enjoy. But we don’t have to pretend we like it.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 19, 2019 22:42:15 GMT
It’s probably much more than that now, since 11 lies a day is the *average* and he started out pretty slow. Did he? LOL, by today’s standards! ETA: I based my statement on the WP fact checker graph which shows less than 200 lies a month in January 2017 compared with over 1200 lies in the month of October 2018 alone! So he went from about 6.5 lies a day back then up to almost 39 lies a day in October. That’s roughly a 600% increase!
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Feb 19, 2019 23:56:38 GMT
I'm not sure you can dump the Electoral College - I think that's too complicated, constitutionally. You'd likely have to reform it... give votes based on % of popular vote. So, say Florida has 90 Elector College votes (I'm making up numbers). If 2/3 vote Republican, they only get 60 EC points. The Dems get the other 30. I had no idea until this election that it wasn’t this way. My state’s popular vote was 60/40 but 100% of our EC cotes went to the 60% candidate
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2019 1:10:29 GMT
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2019 1:22:54 GMT
God dammit I am tired of this administrations lie after lie after lie.
It is ridiculous that when called out on their blatant lying, they claim that it is all Democrats vying for political gain.
MOTHER FUCKERS. I fucking hate every last one of them.
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Post by carly1030 on Feb 20, 2019 1:56:50 GMT
God dammit I am tired of this administrations lie after lie after lie. It is ridiculous that when called out on their blatant lying, they claim that it is all Democrats vying for political gain. MOTHER FUCKERS. I fucking hate every last one of them. I think all the mother fuckers feel the same way.
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Post by carly1030 on Feb 20, 2019 1:57:18 GMT
Lame ass reply......usual....
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AmandaA
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Post by AmandaA on Feb 20, 2019 2:12:41 GMT
So apparently walls and wheels aren’t the only effective medieval tools, who knew 🤷🏻♀️ Border patrol agents find drug catapult . I really feel like we need a hashtag along the lines of #quitwastingmyf’ingtaxdollars. It would get soooo much use for so many things!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2019 2:17:40 GMT
Lame ass reply......usual.... Not as much as your lame ass weak parroting. You’re predictable.
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Feb 20, 2019 2:46:31 GMT
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Post by carly1030 on Feb 20, 2019 2:50:54 GMT
Lame ass reply......usual.... Not as much as your lame ass weak parroting. You’re predictable. I know I am but what are you, hmmmmmm child.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 20, 2019 3:07:16 GMT
trump... ”I never said anything bad about Andrew McCabe’s wife other than she (they) should not have taken large amounts of campaign money from a Crooked Hillary source when Clinton was under investigation by the FBI. I never called his wife a loser to him (another McCabe made up lie)! Ah, we are suppose to believe this guy, who tells 11 falsehoods a day? Really? And Whitaker was Acting AG, and now a created (possible noshow) job at DOJ, while being investigated about the shenanegins at his position with that company in Florida.? ? ?
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Post by Merge on Feb 20, 2019 3:07:51 GMT
Sorry, back on to the negative misery: Covington Teen Sues WaPo for $250MSure, that seems reasonable. Not a money grab at all. And I'm sure the RNC-affiliated legal team that represents him has no political motivation in this ask at all.
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Post by Merge on Feb 20, 2019 3:17:35 GMT
This is what Trumpers are teaching their kids:
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 20, 2019 3:20:41 GMT
So apparently walls and wheels aren’t the only effective medieval tools, who knew 🤷🏻♀️ Border patrol agents find drug catapult . I really feel like we need a hashtag along the lines of #quitwastingmyf’ingtaxdollars. It would get soooo much use for so many things! The wall does not stop drugs!
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AmandaA
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Post by AmandaA on Feb 20, 2019 3:37:54 GMT
So apparently walls and wheels aren’t the only effective medieval tools, who knew 🤷🏻♀️ Border patrol agents find drug catapult . I really feel like we need a hashtag along the lines of #quitwastingmyf’ingtaxdollars. It would get soooo much use for so many things! The wall does not stop drugs! I suppose if he gets his damn wall they will just start loading the women, children, and bad hombres into the catapult next. Seems a lot simpler than tunneling under it 🤔
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Post by carly1030 on Feb 20, 2019 3:40:22 GMT
So apparently walls and wheels aren’t the only effective medieval tools, who knew 🤷🏻♀️ Border patrol agents find drug catapult . I really feel like we need a hashtag along the lines of #quitwastingmyf’ingtaxdollars. It would get soooo much use for so many things! The wall does not stop drugs! Wonder why obama wanted it before? I guess Hilary has, what you call evolved.
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