anniebygaslight
Drama Llama
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Post by anniebygaslight on Feb 18, 2019 11:02:53 GMT
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Feb 18, 2019 11:20:36 GMT
Further proof to me that Jeremy should have stayed as an activist and not become a leader. He has no leadership qualities.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 11:36:55 GMT
It wouldn't surprise me if a few more joined them now that the lid has been lifted. The labour party hung themselves the minute they voted Jeremy Corbyn as their leader IMO.
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Post by gillyp on Feb 18, 2019 13:43:50 GMT
Further proof to me that Jeremy should have stayed as an activist and not become a leader. He has no leadership qualities. This. |
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Sarah*H
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Post by Sarah*H on Feb 18, 2019 16:50:53 GMT
Can you break down what this means for those of us in the US who read it with bewilderment? I read a couple articles trying to figure it out but I remain confused!
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Feb 18, 2019 17:01:39 GMT
Can you break down what this means for those of us in the US who read it with bewilderment? I read a couple articles trying to figure it out but I remain confused! In short, the seven MPs are free to vote whatever way they wish without having to follow the party line. Will make some upcoming votes interesting. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 17:07:25 GMT
Countries dividing and destroying themselves from within. Putin must be thrilled.
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 18, 2019 18:20:29 GMT
I am not following this mess closely, but have to say good for them. I wish something similar would happen in US politics.
In Canada, we have seen parties crash and burn at both the provincial and federal level and I admire those able to say enough is enough and walk away.
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Feb 18, 2019 18:27:05 GMT
I've had a look at the new composition of the House of commons, Labour started this session with 262 MPs now have 248. Will be interesting going forward.
From the BBC
How many MPs are independent?
The resignation of seven Labour MPs leaves Jeremy Corbyn with 248 MPs under his leadership. For now, the new group will sit as independents, but could soon form a new political party.
Five other MPs are already sitting as independents after leaving the Labour Party for various reasons, but they are not part of an organised group.
Separately, Peterborough MP Fiona Onasanya was kicked out of the party when she was jailed in January.
There are two other independent MPs - former Lib Dem Stephen Lloyd, who quit his party because he disagrees with them on Brexit, and North Down MP Lady Sylvia Hermon - a former Ulster Unionist.
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Post by gar on Feb 19, 2019 18:16:03 GMT
I think the chances of more MPs leaving to join this breakaway group seem quite high. I wonder if they will for a new party.
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Feb 19, 2019 19:46:33 GMT
I think the chances of more MPs leaving to join this breakaway group seem quite high. I wonder if they will for a new party. And look who is rejoining the party, www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47294393 |
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Post by gar on Feb 19, 2019 19:49:31 GMT
I think the chances of more MPs leaving to join this breakaway group seem quite high. I wonder if they will for a new party. And look who is rejoining the party, www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47294393 Oh! Interesting...in a way  Labour Party members must be having many a late night at the moment! |
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Post by gillyp on Feb 19, 2019 19:55:50 GMT
 The words barrel and bottom spring to mind. |
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Post by gar on Feb 19, 2019 20:12:50 GMT
The words barrel and bottom spring to mind. Yes, good point! |
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Post by gillyp on Feb 19, 2019 21:02:16 GMT
Any bets on how long it will be before he’s in a position to stage a leadership bid, notwithstanding the final paragraph of the article?
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Post by gar on Feb 19, 2019 21:39:16 GMT
Any bets on how long it will be before he’s in a position to stage a leadership bid, notwithstanding the final paragraph of the article? It won't be long but will the party go for it? Corbyn hasn't been the success many expected, I can't see him being any better although he was more 'charismatic' - at least compared to Corbyn  |
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Feb 19, 2019 22:42:21 GMT
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Post by wellway on Feb 19, 2019 22:50:54 GMT
Plus talk of three Tories leaving tomorrow, Anna Soubry is one suggested name. Heard it on Newsnight.
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Post by gar on Feb 19, 2019 23:23:40 GMT
Plus talk of three Tories leaving tomorrow, Anna Soubry is one suggested name. Heard it on Newsnight. I heard of Anna Soubry too. Gathering pace it would seem! |
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Feb 20, 2019 12:28:19 GMT
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Post by gar on Feb 20, 2019 12:35:21 GMT
So they've left because of the Tories 'shift to the right'...saying that the party of economic stability is now risking massive instability via Brexit. They have a point...
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Post by gar on Feb 20, 2019 15:22:57 GMT
So are we seeing the birth of a new, more central party? BBC |
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anniebygaslight
Drama Llama
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Post by anniebygaslight on Feb 20, 2019 17:49:27 GMT
So are we seeing the birth of a new, more central party? BBCLet's hope so. |
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Post by gar on Feb 20, 2019 19:16:41 GMT
So are we seeing the birth of a new, more central party? BBCLet's hope so. Would be a good thing wouldn’t it! |
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Feb 20, 2019 19:19:28 GMT
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Post by gar on Feb 20, 2019 19:52:40 GMT
Ha ha. I wonder how long it took them to decide to accept him initially...yes he’s just what they need! 😏 |
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Post by hop2 on Feb 20, 2019 23:07:26 GMT
So are we seeing the birth of a new, more central party? BBCGeez I wish we could just make a new more central party like that. Poof! no more being at the whim of fanatics of either wing! One can dream |
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Post by gar on Feb 20, 2019 23:12:38 GMT
So are we seeing the birth of a new, more central party? BBCGeez I wish we could just make a new more central party like that. Poof! no more being at the whim of fanatics of either wing! One can dream There’s no certainty it’s going to happen yet but I hear what you’re saying 🙂 |
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anniebygaslight
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Post by anniebygaslight on Feb 21, 2019 8:04:57 GMT
All we need now is George Galloway to be allowed back into Labour.
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Post by gar on Feb 21, 2019 9:45:39 GMT
All we need now is George Galloway to be allowed back into Labour. Good lord, thanks for that thought! 😏 |
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Labour Party members must be having many a late night at the moment!
The words barrel and bottom spring to mind. 
