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Post by Merge on Mar 19, 2019 18:33:56 GMT
These girls are 17 and 18. Seniors. It's not even like they're middle school girls.
Older DD's two "friends" let it be known at a party last week, when we were out of town, that they don't really consider DD their friend any more. They just hang out with her sometimes because they don't want her to "be sad." But they don't like her or want to hang around with her.
And then, of course, other "friends" rushed to gleefully report this to DD, who is crushed. It's the end of senior year and she feels completely unwanted and abandoned. She is a shy kid who doesn't make friends easily, so there's no big crowd of others to turn to.
I want to throttle these little teenage shits, duct tape them together and throw them in a closet. Why do young women age 17 and 18 have to be so ugly to one another? What kind of parents raise these nasty little nothings?
I know there's not really anything I can do, and I'm not looking for advice. My heart just breaks for my baby.
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 19, 2019 18:51:49 GMT
My heart is breaking for your baby, too.
The pack mentality of high school makes it harder to shift between groups of friends and lets mean girls thrive.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 18:53:53 GMT
Wow, with "friends" like that, who needs enemies? Tell your DD they did her a favor by showing their true colors. Half the people in the group will stop talking to/hanging out with each other once they graduate anyway.
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Post by mikklynn on Mar 19, 2019 18:54:10 GMT
I don't know why. I wish I did. My DGD is a smart, pretty girl who is often the target of these bitches.
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Post by mikklynn on Mar 19, 2019 18:55:01 GMT
Wow, with "friends" like that, who needs enemies? Tell your DD they did her a favor by showing their true colors. Half the people in the group will stop talking to/hanging out with each other once they graduate anyway. I agree. I have a few friends from HS, but mostly my friends are from college.
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Post by busy on Mar 19, 2019 18:58:43 GMT
I'm so sorry. I'd be livid, heartbroken and about a million other emotions.
Why are some girls so mean? There are a ton of different reasons and of course, nothing applies to all of them. But I think in many cases, it basically comes down to a lack of self-worth. They mistakenly feel like they will elevate the way they feel about themselves if they push down others. Why do they feel that way about themselves? Maybe they have a cruel or unsupportive family. Maybe they don't feel like they have anything of value to contribute to the world. Maybe they feel like they don't have the things that our society tends to value in women/girls. Many girls mature and grow out of it, but not all. It's sad.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 19:04:51 GMT
Why? Because they are all going through a highly stressful emotional time they don't know how to handle. One of the things we learned in an army family support group is when there is about to be a long term separation there WILL be arguing.... you can't separate from someone you are whole attached to. So the instinctive self defense mode is to fight and "cut" the strings. It is easier for many people to physically leave when they are mad/upset than when they feel all cozy and attached. Then in families make up later after the initial trauma of separation has happened. With friendships there may or may not be a reattachment after the trauma.
These girls are all about to go their separate ways into college or jobs or the stress of not knowing what they want to do. Your daughter was already gone so it was easy for the other two to target her. Before it is all over they will have their own cat fight and break up too.
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Post by kristi on Mar 19, 2019 19:12:35 GMT
My daughter had a similar experience last year during her senior year & it was rough. SO MUCH DRAMA in what was supposed to be an exciting time. Being on the other side, I am glad she learned who her real friends were (she removed herself completely from the group after high school graduation). She is a freshman in college and is having the time of her life with lots of really great girls she has met. Sorry you are going through this
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Post by kelly8875 on Mar 19, 2019 19:14:00 GMT
Stuff like this is why I laugh when people say high school was the best time of their life. Really? Then you were one of the bitches, is what I always think.
I’m sorry for your dd. She will find a new group, and in time see what she was missing.
I don’t talk to anyone from high school, except the couple of people who happen to work at our company.
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Post by huskergal on Mar 19, 2019 19:17:04 GMT
I hate that crap! I hope those girls get their just desserts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 19:38:28 GMT
She'll be leaving them behind soon anyway.
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Post by Heathen on Mar 19, 2019 19:43:52 GMT
She'll be leaving them behind soon anyway. Is that supposed to make Merge's daughter feel better?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 19:48:58 GMT
She'll be leaving them behind soon anyway. Is that supposed to make Merge's daughter feel better? It can, if framed properly. And a good life lesson that everyone is not your friend. My sons went through "friend withdrawal" once entering college, and they went locally. Friends go off to different schools, get jobs and are busier than they were in high school. They see a couple of friends during breaks and such but not frequently.
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Post by Zee on Mar 19, 2019 19:52:50 GMT
Your poor daughter I blame the tattlers just as much as the other girls. People that love to tell others whatever mean thing they hear really suck. It's not just teenage girls--I've been working in a predominantly female environment for years. I never tell someone what others say about them unless it's positive, because to do otherwise just causes hurt feelings. There will always be those who like to pick on those they consider weak.
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Post by christine58 on Mar 19, 2019 19:55:49 GMT
I blame the tattlers just as much as the other girls. People that love to tell others whatever mean thing they hear really suck. I think the tattlers are worse. Your poor DD...
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Post by inkedup on Mar 19, 2019 20:06:14 GMT
How awful for your poor daughter. And how awful to have to watch her go through this.
I'd like to throttle those mean girls, too.
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Post by kate on Mar 19, 2019 20:42:36 GMT
The Peas are here to hold your earrings!
I'm mad for your DD, too. Senior year is such a delicate and painful time.
Volt has a really good point about the separation. My DD had a weird experience when she finished elementary school (her classmates were scattering all over the city for middle school). During her last semester, she got scooped up by the cool girls and became their new "pet." I was horrified, because there was no way DD was going to be able to keep up with that crew, and I knew they could turn on her in an instant. I was also afraid she would turn her back on her two old nerdy friends. Several years later, DD is still friends with one of her old nerdy friends but (thank God) none of the cool girls. That separation period was an anomaly.
I hope your DD has at least one true friend to lean on during this time. Big hugs to her and to you!
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Post by scrapngranny on Mar 19, 2019 20:59:34 GMT
Those girls are not or never have been her friends, if they do things like this. Teen years are when you learn friends from aquatinteances. The better they learn this, the less times they will be hurt. The other girls will learn what goes around, comes around. How many women do you know that still haven’t learn these skills?
I’m so sorry you daughter has to deal with this at the end of her senior year. Hopefully, college will be a much better experience for her.
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Post by karinec on Mar 19, 2019 21:13:54 GMT
I'm sorry to hear this. I went through a similar situation with my older daughter during her senior year of high school. I couldn't understand why she didn't want to break away from people who were treating her like crap. Her rationale was it was too late for her to make any new friends and she was just going to try and get through the rest of the year. I also have a close friend with the same situation and her daughter said the same thing!
There is a light at the end of the tunnel. When DD got out of high school, she made new friends and feels gratified because they love her for who she is. One of the people from high school ended up apologizing to her for the way he treated her, but it was a pretty empty apology, and she let him know it. It was really hard to watch her go through what she did, but it also helped her learn some valuable lessons on friendship, and I'm thankful she came out on the other side a stronger person.
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Post by papersilly on Mar 19, 2019 21:24:08 GMT
it sucks that mean girls in high school never change. you daughter will move on and be better off without them. check out those mean girls in 15 years or so when they get long in the tooth and see how entitled they are feeling then.
ETA: i ran into one such girl about 20 years after we graduated. she had two small kids and had just moved back in with her parents. it was obvious her cheerleader days were far behind her. i'm not going to lie, there was a slight twinge of satisfaction that perhaps life had leveled out a bit. actually, life had leveled out A LOT but that wouldn't be very nice to toot one's horn and go into more detail about it. LOL
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Mar 19, 2019 21:27:47 GMT
Your poor daughter I blame the tattlers just as much as the other girls. People that love to tell others whatever mean thing they hear really suck. It's not just teenage girls--I've been working in a predominantly female environment for years. I never tell someone what others say about them unless it's positive, because to do otherwise just causes hurt feelings. There will always be those who like to pick on those they consider weak. Or who they feel inferior to for whatever imagined reason.
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Post by peabay on Mar 19, 2019 21:35:07 GMT
Is that supposed to make Merge's daughter feel better? It can, if framed properly. And a good life lesson that everyone is not your friend. My sons went through "friend withdrawal" once entering college, and they went locally. Friends go off to different schools, get jobs and are busier than they were in high school. They see a couple of friends during breaks and such but not frequently. I agree. My girls all made their best friends at college. I think telling a child who is struggling socially that college is coming soon and things will get better can help. I'm really sorry this is happening to the OP's daughter. All four of my girls struggled occasionally socially but seemed to find their places in college and post-college. If you can just convince her to hang in there... One of my daughters was kicked out of her friend group and we brainstormed what other girls she liked and could join - and it worked. They were "temporary fixes" - she's not very close with the second group, but at least they were people with whom she could have lunch, share a limo to the prom etc...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 21:36:43 GMT
Once a mean girl, always a mean girl. I experienced it first-hand, 30 years after graduating.
Long story short, one of the popular hometown girls thought it would be a good idea to embarrass me in front of everyone at our reunion. Keep in mind, she owns a restaurant in my hometown that I always tried to patronize whenever I went home because I thought it was the right thing to do and we are all adults now.
I will never go to another function with those people again and I found out afterwards that she was very rude to parents of another classmate of ours when they had the gall to complain about one of their meals.
I’m just waiting for the Karma bus...
OP, sending good thoughts to your DD.
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Post by NanaKate on Mar 19, 2019 21:38:31 GMT
I’m sorry your daughter is dealing with this. (((HUGS))) for her...
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Post by 950nancy on Mar 19, 2019 21:46:11 GMT
Why? Because they are all going through a highly stressful emotional time they don't know how to handle. One of the things we learned in an army family support group is when there is about to be a long term separation there WILL be arguing.... you can't separate from someone you are whole attached to. So the instinctive self defense mode is to fight and "cut" the strings. It is easier for many people to physically leave when they are mad/upset than when they feel all cozy and attached. Then in families make up later after the initial trauma of separation has happened. With friendships there may or may not be a reattachment after the trauma. These girls are all about to go their separate ways into college or jobs or the stress of not knowing what they want to do. Your daughter was already gone so it was easy for the other two to target her. Before it is all over they will have their own cat fight and break up too. I don't remember seeing this in high school with my friends. I can imagine it, but I only went to college with one of my friends and the rest of us never acted that way. OP, that just flat out sucks. It was a blessing in disguise for sure. A really mean one though.
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Post by lauradrumm on Mar 19, 2019 21:56:46 GMT
If it helps tell your daughter about my daughter’s experience. Something like this happened to her. Years later she’s able to look at these losers and laugh. Her life is soooo much better! Only those who have significant poor self esteem look to hurt others IMHO. Even at this age. Hugs to you both. It’s hard not to want to throttle those girls! My daughter says to this day that she’s glad it happened because it taught her so much.
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Post by roberta on Mar 19, 2019 22:32:17 GMT
So sorry your dd has to endure this. My heart breaks for her and you! We went through similar problems with our dd. Last year of HS several friends turned on her. ( it had also happened in MS). She is an introvert also and I do believe that makes it harder.
Freshman year of college she was thrilled with her suite mates but then two of them turned into total mean girls ridiculing, laughing at her, omitting her etc. it hurt a lot but the silver lining is she learned a lot from it. We talked a lot about friendship, insecurities, abusive behavior, staying true to your values, and that life ain’t fair.
She is stronger, more confident, and kinder now.
Please tell your dd from us that this too will pass. Those girls are acting out their own issues and using your dd. There are billions of people in the world so there will always be people who don’t like us. Remind her to feel the love of family and true friends. We feel for her and wish her quick healing from this undeserved wound.
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Post by scrapmaven on Mar 19, 2019 22:42:34 GMT
I blame the tattlers, too. They are just as mean. I always look at it this way, those mean girls might have peaked already. Your dd has years to peak and live her best life. When girls act like that I always wonder what the parents are teaching them or in this case NOT teaching them? I'm sorry that your dd is hurting, because of some stupid brats.
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Post by snowsilver on Mar 19, 2019 22:46:48 GMT
Aw, girl, I'm so so, sorry. There is really nothing I can say to make her or YOU feel better. We Mama Bears always have to hurt right along with them and it.is.hard!!! The tough thing is that many posts above are right on. She will get through this. But nothing anything says takes away the hurt now. What you CAN do is love her....and make sure she knows how you care. She might not say so, but that simply means the world. Having Mama there, totally in her corner, does help patch the wound.
I wish we moms came with a magic wand to "fix" things. But I guess it's good that we don't. We'd try to fix things that our kids need to go through in order to deal with life.
You're a good Mama...remember that. Your caring heart is one of the best gifts she will ever have in all her life.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 19, 2019 22:49:21 GMT
I don’t talk to anyone from high school, except the couple of people who happen to work at our company. Nor do I.
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