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Post by hookturnian on Dec 21, 2020 11:57:10 GMT
Then I realized that I'm tired of policing woman's bodies and that republicans are only interested in making sure you birth that baby but not the circumstance that that child might be born into. Some states are trying to pass legislation where they want doctors to try and implant ectopic pregnancies, which they don't have the technology to do, because to remove the pregnancy is abortion. ( Ohio) They aren't interested in helping and supporting the family because you know your taxes might be raised, and all people on welfare are lazy so they don't deserve help. What if we truly supported women and families by providing health care, quality education, and food security. I suspect that abortions would go down because they would no longer be a necessity. I could go on. But who will breed the fodder for the military-industrial complex and the modern slaves for the prison-industrial complex.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 16:46:00 GMT
Where's my #walkaway peas!? "But with most Republican lawmakers sticking to Trump, these officials say they no longer recognize the party they served. Some have ended their membership, others are letting it lapse while a few are newly registered as independents, according to a dozen former Bush officials who spoke with Reuters. “The Republican Party as I knew it no longer exists. I’d call it the cult of Trump,” said Jimmy Gurulé, who was Undersecretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence in the Bush administration. Kristopher Purcell, who worked in the Bush White House’s communications office for six years, said roughly 60 to 70 former Bush officials have decided to leave the party or are cutting ties with it, from conversations he has been having. “The number is growing every day,” Purcell said. Their defection from the Republican Party after a lifetime of service for many is another clear sign of how a growing intraparty conflict over Trump and his legacy is fracturing it." www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-republicans-exclusive-idUSKBN2A1275These aren't just Joe Scmoe party members. These are leaders and former officials w/in GOP administrations.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 1, 2021 16:52:46 GMT
I think whether he purposefully intended to or not, Trump HAS effectively created a third party regardless of what he calls himself.
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Post by elaine on Feb 1, 2021 17:48:50 GMT
Where's my #walkaway peas!? "But with most Republican lawmakers sticking to Trump, these officials say they no longer recognize the party they served. Some have ended their membership, others are letting it lapse while a few are newly registered as independents, according to a dozen former Bush officials who spoke with Reuters. “The Republican Party as I knew it no longer exists. I’d call it the cult of Trump,” said Jimmy Gurulé, who was Undersecretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence in the Bush administration. Kristopher Purcell, who worked in the Bush White House’s communications office for six years, said roughly 60 to 70 former Bush officials have decided to leave the party or are cutting ties with it, from conversations he has been having. “The number is growing every day,” Purcell said. Their defection from the Republican Party after a lifetime of service for many is another clear sign of how a growing intraparty conflict over Trump and his legacy is fracturing it." www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-republicans-exclusive-idUSKBN2A1275These aren't just Joe Scmoe party members. These are leaders and former officials w/in GOP administrations. It has become more and more evident that the whole propaganda strategy of the GOP since Trump took office is to blame the Democratic Party of just about everything negative that the GOP is actually doing itself. I am waiting to hear about more evidence coming out that it is actually GOP members - like Epstein - who are the pedophiles that Qanon is screaming about. I still think quite a bit about Skybar/Skypea’s ranting on and on about how Barack Obama (or DBO as she called him) would never leave the White House willingly. That Obama would try to enlist the military to overthrow the government. I thought that she was seriously delusional at the time, because that would never happen in the USA. It is now chilling how prescient she really was, just that the narrative fit the next GOP President, not Obama.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 18:08:31 GMT
It is now chilling how prescient she really was, just that the narrative fit the next GOP President, not Obama. Yep. Blame your enemy for that of which you are guilty.
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Post by hop2 on Feb 1, 2021 18:50:20 GMT
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Post by SockMonkey on Feb 1, 2021 19:09:40 GMT
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Post by hop2 on Feb 1, 2021 19:33:56 GMT
That WaPost link is incomplete. Probably because I don’t have a subscription but if you google whataboutism it’ll come up
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Post by lucyg on Feb 1, 2021 20:46:48 GMT
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Post by lucyg on Feb 1, 2021 20:48:56 GMT
Where's my #walkaway peas!? "But with most Republican lawmakers sticking to Trump, these officials say they no longer recognize the party they served. Some have ended their membership, others are letting it lapse while a few are newly registered as independents, according to a dozen former Bush officials who spoke with Reuters. “The Republican Party as I knew it no longer exists. I’d call it the cult of Trump,” said Jimmy Gurulé, who was Undersecretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence in the Bush administration. Kristopher Purcell, who worked in the Bush White House’s communications office for six years, said roughly 60 to 70 former Bush officials have decided to leave the party or are cutting ties with it, from conversations he has been having. “The number is growing every day,” Purcell said. Their defection from the Republican Party after a lifetime of service for many is another clear sign of how a growing intraparty conflict over Trump and his legacy is fracturing it." www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-republicans-exclusive-idUSKBN2A1275These aren't just Joe Scmoe party members. These are leaders and former officials w/in GOP administrations. It has become more and more evident that the whole propaganda strategy of the GOP since Trump took office is to blame the Democratic Party of just about everything negative that the GOP is actually doing itself. I am waiting to hear about more evidence coming out that it is actually GOP members - like Epstein - who are the pedophiles that Qanon is screaming about. I still think quite a bit about Skybar/Skypea’s ranting on and on about how Barack Obama (or DBO as she called him) would never leave the White House willingly. That Obama would try to enlist the military to overthrow the government. I thought that she was seriously delusional at the time, because that would never happen in the USA. It is now chilling how prescient she really was, just that the narrative fit the next GOP President, not Obama. Only, unless she’s had a massive change of heart (her own #walkaway) she is probably vigorously defending Trump’s attempt to steal the election using the military. SAD
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 0:25:45 GMT
NPR picked up on the CO story of about a week ago... "Lyle Darrah was on a conference call at work in rural Weld County, north of Denver, when the riot at the U.S. Capitol started on Jan. 6. When his boss mentioned what was happening, he turned on news coverage — and immediately felt his last allegiance to the Republican Party slipping away. "I was completely shocked and ashamed. That's not how I think of the Republicans — who we were, and who we are," he said. "It's something I felt I could no longer be in support of." That night, he talked with his wife over dinner at their home. Darrah had been a lifelong Republican, while his spouse and children are Democrats — the kind of family that joked about canceling out each other's votes. Later, Darrah, age 49, sat in his living room and pulled up the state's voter registration website. And then, like thousands of other Coloradans in the wake of the insurrection, he left the Republican Party. "I think it should be a signal," said Darrah, a software company director who voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020." www.npr.org/2021/02/01/962246187/spurred-by-the-capitol-riot-thousands-of-republicans-drop-their-party
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 0:29:13 GMT
Some walking to even rightier parties
""It feels like we're living in the upside-down world," she said. Ocker feels that "RINOs" — Republicans in name only — betrayed the president and wrongly blamed him for the riots. She added that it was impossible that any Trump supporter could have committed violence that day.
"We've all been living a lie and been told a lie," she said.
She hasn't spoken with her parents, who are Biden supporters, since the election. They see her as a QAnon conspiracy theorist, she said, but she thinks of herself as a skeptic who does her own research. Now, she fears a civil war — or, at the least, a generation-long rebuilding of conservative politics.
"A party's got to implode," she said. "I think that's what's happening to the Republican Party, a little bit.""
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Post by inkedup on Feb 2, 2021 0:44:05 GMT
I'd love to hear our most ardent Trump supporters' thoughts on the insurrection and impeachment. I'd love to hear them talk about the Constitution, rule of law and how police lives matter.
And yes, I know. Why would they come back here and engage the pitchfork peas, right? 🙄
I'm quite certain I love my country more than any politician and I'd disavow the Democrats in a heartbeat if they pulled the crap the GOP is pulling. I guess it's hard for these "patriots" to admit that they put Trump over country and/or that they openly support sedition and insurrection.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 2, 2021 1:17:42 GMT
NPR picked up on the CO story of about a week ago... "Lyle Darrah was on a conference call at work in rural Weld County, north of Denver, when the riot at the U.S. Capitol started on Jan. 6. When his boss mentioned what was happening, he turned on news coverage — and immediately felt his last allegiance to the Republican Party slipping away. "I was completely shocked and ashamed. That's not how I think of the Republicans — who we were, and who we are," he said. "It's something I felt I could no longer be in support of." That night, he talked with his wife over dinner at their home. Darrah had been a lifelong Republican, while his spouse and children are Democrats — the kind of family that joked about canceling out each other's votes. Later, Darrah, age 49, sat in his living room and pulled up the state's voter registration website. And then, like thousands of other Coloradans in the wake of the insurrection, he left the Republican Party. "I think it should be a signal," said Darrah, a software company director who voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020." www.npr.org/2021/02/01/962246187/spurred-by-the-capitol-riot-thousands-of-republicans-drop-their-partySomeone, maybe you, posted about state legislatures making changes to voting. They have been busy, and seem to be even more determined to cheat if they can’t win. So even if they lose voters-which they deserve-they are doubling down.
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Post by freecharlie on Feb 2, 2021 1:22:38 GMT
NPR picked up on the CO story of about a week ago... "Lyle Darrah was on a conference call at work in rural Weld County, north of Denver, when the riot at the U.S. Capitol started on Jan. 6. When his boss mentioned what was happening, he turned on news coverage — and immediately felt his last allegiance to the Republican Party slipping away. "I was completely shocked and ashamed. That's not how I think of the Republicans — who we were, and who we are," he said. "It's something I felt I could no longer be in support of." That night, he talked with his wife over dinner at their home. Darrah had been a lifelong Republican, while his spouse and children are Democrats — the kind of family that joked about canceling out each other's votes. Later, Darrah, age 49, sat in his living room and pulled up the state's voter registration website. And then, like thousands of other Coloradans in the wake of the insurrection, he left the Republican Party. "I think it should be a signal," said Darrah, a software company director who voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020." www.npr.org/2021/02/01/962246187/spurred-by-the-capitol-riot-thousands-of-republicans-drop-their-partySomeone, maybe you, posted about state legislatures making changes to voting. They have been busy, and seem to be even more determined to cheat if they can’t win. So even if they lose voters-which they deserve-they are doubling down. holy shit. Hopefully they don't pass
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 2, 2021 1:36:52 GMT
Someone, maybe you, posted about state legislatures making changes to voting. They have been busy, and seem to be even more determined to cheat if they can’t win. So even if they lose voters-which they deserve-they are doubling down. holy shit. Hopefully they don't pass 🤞🏻🤞🏻 I hope that Dems use this sort of thing as an example of why voting in midterm elections matters.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 2, 2021 2:23:15 GMT
I'd love to hear our most ardent Trump supporters' thoughts on the insurrection and impeachment. I'd love to hear them talk about the Constitution, rule of law and how police lives matter. And yes, I know. Why would they come back here and engage the pitchfork peas, right? 🙄 I'm quite certain I love my country more than any politician and I'd disavow the Democrats in a heartbeat if they pulled the crap the GOP is pulling. I guess it's hard for these "patriots" to admit that they put Trump over country and/or that they openly support sedition and insurrection. Putting Trump over country and/or supporting the Jan 6 insurrection (however it’s done) - wholly deserves a pitchfork, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 5:00:41 GMT
"The Democratic Party is big enough for centrists like me In November, I voted for a Democrat for the first time when I picked Joe Biden for President, because I believe decency, character, and respect for democracy have to matter again. The Democratic Party is far from perfect, and I don't agree with everything they do. But going forward it will be my party, because under President Joe Biden it's becoming a bigger tent rooted in our shared American values. As a former Republican, I feel that I can stand on the Democratic platform without giving up what I've always believed in. I believe we can expand healthcare access to everyone while upholding the free enterprise system. I believe we can have robust investment in infrastructure and public transportation, while making sure commerce and trade can thrive. I believe we can ask the wealthy to pay more in taxes to make sure the little guy gets a fair shot, without punishing success or innovation. I believe America can be a global leader by engaging our allies to tackle climate change and support human rights, while standing up to adversaries like China. It's not easy walking away from the party I have devoted myself to, but it's clear that President Trump's hold on the GOP isn't going anywhere. I know a lot of good people who want to change the direction of their party, and I hope for America's sake that they can. But they'll have to do it without me. Nick Pasternak ... served as the speechwriter for U.S. Senator David Perdue (R-GA) and worked on numerous Republican campaigns, including Sen. Marco Rubio's Presidential campaign." www.businessinsider.com/worked-gop-senator-david-perdue-marco-rubio-campaign-leaving-gop-2021-2Another heavy-hitter.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 14:14:14 GMT
GOP faces massive realignment as it sheds college-educated voters "It's an off-year for national electoral politics, with only a few big gubernatorial races later in the year in Virginia and New Jersey. Still, polling data show the great shift in the nation's two major political parties is continuing and some of those changes could have significant impacts at the ballot box. Earlier this month Gallup released data showing a sharp drop in the number of people who chose to identify as Republican in the first quarter of 2021. The 9-point gap between the two parties was the largest Gallup had recorded in almost a decade. Democrats celebrated the numbers, but Republicans and analysts were quick to point out the figures don’t necessarily represent a departure from past political norms. The last time the Democrats held this large an advantage, Barack Obama had just won his second term in the White House. In fact, going back in time, Democrats have held even larger advantages in Gallup’s partisan affiliation data, particularly when the party was riding an election wave. Back in 2008, when the Great Recession was just beginning and Barack Obama was cruising to his White House first win, Democrats held a massive 14-point edge in party affiliation. In 1999, just after Democrats did surprisingly well in Bill Clinton's second midterm election, the party had an 11-point advantage. And in 1993, just after Bill Clinton first won the White House, Democrats had a 12-point edge in party ID. That's all good evidence for the Republican argument that "we've seen this before." And further bolstering their point of view is the fact those numbers bounced back, of course. Republicans held the affiliation edge in the mid-1990s and the early '00s, and the two parties were basically even in early 2020. But another trend in politics suggests that what we are seeing might be more than a somewhat typical election-related bump for Democrats. Data from the Pew Research Center show that, increasingly, different people are populating the two major political parties — with Republicans and Democrats moving in sharply different directions among college-educated voters. At the beginning of this century, Republicans held an 11-point edge on party affiliation among college-educated voters. By the time Barack Obama was president, the figures had flipped to become a 4-point edge for the Democrats. And as President Donald Trump’s term was winding down, the numbers had come full-circle and the Democrats had a 13-point edge among college-educated voters on party affiliation." So, the data suggest that what we are seeing might be more than just a sudden Democratic edge in party affiliation. Those 2021 changes are coupled with a larger shift in party composition. And that might have real impacts come election time because voters with different levels of educational attainment have long exercised their right to vote at different rates. In 2018, voters with a bachelor's degree cast ballots at a much higher rate than other parts of the electorate, according to data from the U.S. Census. Their 64-percent voting rate was 12 points higher than those with some college and 25 points higher than those whose highest level of educational attainment is a high school diploma. As Republicans shed college-educated voters, the party could find a new challenge that compounds the Democratic edge in affiliation. Even if the affiliation numbers bounce back this time, the different people in the GOP might make it more difficult for the party to get big turnout numbers in 2022. Midterm elections in particular are often about which party can excite and turn out their voters. To be sure, there are still a lot of question marks. It's not yet clear what Trump's impact will be on the 2022 race, or how voters will feel about President Joe Biden 18 months from now. But the drop in GOP party ID, coupled with the Republican's loss of college-educated voters, could spell trouble for the party in coming elections. It's not just how many people are calling themselves Republicans in early 2021 that looks like a potential problem for the party, it is which voters are identifying with the GOP." www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/gop-faces-massive-realignment-it-sheds-college-educated-voters-n1264425Reality has a well known liberal bias - Stephen Colbert
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Post by pilcas on Apr 19, 2021 17:21:15 GMT
We all walk away from things that we don’t like. I was a registered independent for 40 yrs. Last year I became a registered Democrat because after Trump I know I lost all respect for the Republican Party. I did my own little walk away!
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