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Post by joblackford on Apr 25, 2019 3:52:41 GMT
My friend sent me this Atlantic article about how people are turning away from the perfect staged photos on Instagram and young people especially are posting more messy, real life. If you follow any Influencers, do you see this trend yet in your feed?
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Post by msliz on Apr 25, 2019 14:12:08 GMT
I follow you on IG. Is your feed about to get more real and messy?
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Post by nicolep on Apr 25, 2019 14:27:52 GMT
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Post by KikiPea on Apr 25, 2019 15:27:09 GMT
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Post by Citygirl on Apr 25, 2019 16:07:15 GMT
I’m not sure which is worse 😂
These also seemed staged just in a more ridiculous half assed way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 17:27:25 GMT
Don't follow any influencers and follow maybe 2 who think they are but aren't lol (2 YT moms I enjoy watching)
I follow friends and family, horses, and lots of shih tzus. A few chefs. A few scrapbookers. I follow about 200 pages.
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Post by nicolep on Apr 25, 2019 17:41:55 GMT
Don't follow any influencers and follow maybe 2 who think they are but aren't lol (2 YT moms I enjoy watching) Oh, please tell me you're referring to I Mom So Hard?! 😂
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 18:03:21 GMT
Don't follow any influencers and follow maybe 2 who think they are but aren't lol (2 YT moms I enjoy watching) Oh, please tell me you're referring to I Mom So Hard?! 😂 Nope! One is Samantha from Happily and Housewife and the other is Nicci from A farmhouse full
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 18:03:48 GMT
And now I need to check her out
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 25, 2019 18:09:40 GMT
Oh, I deal with social media aesthetics daily so this is sort of my jam (but also what I try to get away from when I get home, to be honest). Influencer is such an umbrella term that one shouldn't attach too much value to it. Numbers are numbers and not necessarily a good reflection of engagement and trustworthiness or loyalty. I understand that Gen Z influencers aren't necessarily going to be the cup of tea of older generations but they are a breath of fresh air in a world of perfect, bright, saturated photos of mummy influencers on Instagram (and elsewhere). Their aesthetic and sense of humour is very much Tumblr: it's snappy, witty, WTF-y while keepin' it real. If you enjoy a good Vine compilation like this one, you'll likely get this type of imperfection on display even if you're not part of their target audience. Moving away from the Instagram aesthetic vs Tumblr aesthetic debate (which is polarised by generational gaps anyway), the visual and communication trends have steadily been moving away from the oversaturated perfection for more realism. It's something you can notice in the change of filters used, the search for less harsh contrast, the trend of celebrities sharing no makeup selfies, etc. It's of course all in a bid to remain relatable to sell you stuff but it's here to stay with the current political climate and ecological catastrophe looming on the horizon. Reminder that Gen Z is still very young and in their rebellious age bubble. We shall see how they balance the transition into settled adulthood and whether this will affect their aesthetic or desire to share as candidly. Specialists are predicting that this generation is bound to be more "welp, I guess this is my life now" with their social media than its precedents.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 25, 2019 18:19:32 GMT
This is very much Tumblr (RIP) on Instagram. I understand some people won't get it but it's not stupid. She's sharing tidbits of her real, unfiltered and without following the typical pattern of those using social media to sell stuff to their followers, which is extremely appealing and refreshing to her generational peers who were born and raised with social media access and tech, and are already suffering from fatigue and stress due to the constant display of perfection and competitive nature of online existence. On the surface, it looks silly and nonsensical but it's very much down to earth and real while trying to keep it light. Like teenagers and young adults behave and communicate daily. It makes sense. As a millennial, I embrace this generation for being candid, trying to navigate a complex and increasingly doomed world without going overboard and not feeling the need to cave to pressure to show off an enviable life. It's definitely a healthier approach to social media. The number of IG posts is of no importance as Gen Z does not rely on one social media for exposure and interaction. They are not the Instagram addict generation. Instagram is not the place to be for them. Hope this has helped to clarify why Joana Ceddia has that amount of followers and how her generation relates to social media and its influencers/big name personalities.
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Post by scrappyem on Apr 25, 2019 21:40:20 GMT
This is very much Tumblr (RIP) on Instagram. I understand some people won't get it but it's not stupid. She's sharing tidbits of her real, unfiltered and without following the typical pattern of those using social media to sell stuff to their followers, which is extremely appealing and refreshing to her generational peers who were born and raised with social media access and tech, and are already suffering from fatigue and stress due to the constant display of perfection and competitive nature of online existence. On the surface, it looks silly and nonsensical but it's very much down to earth and real while trying to keep it light. Like teenagers and young adults behave and communicate daily. It makes sense. As a millennial, I embrace this generation for being candid, trying to navigate a complex and increasingly doomed world without going overboard and not feeling the need to cave to pressure to show off an enviable life. It's definitely a healthier approach to social media. The number of IG posts is of no importance as Gen Z does not rely on one social media for exposure and interaction. They are not the Instagram addict generation. Instagram is not the place to be for them. Hope this has helped to clarify why Joana Ceddia has that amount of followers and how her generation relates to social media and its influencers/big name personalities. This is fascinating. She has millions of followers on Youtube and not a ton of videos either. Thanks for the insight into Gen Z & their social media habits. It will be interesting to see how they reshape the workplace as more enter the workforce. I'm the tail end of Gen X and have loved the perspectives the millennials have brought to office. Can't wait to see what cool stuff Gen Z does in the world.
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Post by anniefb on Apr 26, 2019 4:52:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 13:26:15 GMT
I don't yet notice any changes in the blown-out, filtered, "perfectly imperfect" young mom of moppets demographic. They're still curating ad nauseum w/their pictures all having the same "brand" look - think Freckled Fox. I LOVE that the account above has 400K followers - gives me hope that the younger generation is rejecting all the imperfect perfection of the 30-49ish crowd. sleepingbooty - here's a question for you - I love that you're an "insider" on this stuff: When counting "engagement" I know that likes, followers and comments are big metrics. But on comments, don't a lot of wanna-be influencers goose their comment counts by commenting on every comment themselves - usually w/an inane "true" or something like that comment. Seems like a way to inflate one of the engagement metrics artificially. Is that a fair assessment? Or do the engagement monitoring sites have a way to "throw out" those comments from the account owner to get a better representation of true engagement? ETA: Have to say though, that first IG in the article (Emma) is just as bad or worse than the 30-49ish overblown crowd. Just selling her body image in a different way. Gross. The other two mentioned are more like the accounts my teen enby follows.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 13:58:30 GMT
Holy cow - fell down the rabbit hole of ring lights and Celebface www.nytimes.com/2019/04/18/opinion/instagram-celebrity-plastic-surgery.htmlWhat a sad time we live in when so much money and tech that could have been deployed to help those in need, instead is helping everyone try to look like the Kardashians - and monetize it. But maybe it's changing: "A year ago, an influencer could post a shot with manicured hands on a coffee cup and rake in the likes—but now, people will unfollow. According to Fohr, 60 percent of influencers in his network with more than 100,000 followers are actually losing followers month over month. “It’s pretty staggering,” he says. “If you’re an influencer [in 2019] who is still standing in front of Instagram walls, it’s hard.”... “It’s not the same as it was even a year ago,” she says. Consider, for example, the Happy Place, an Instagram museum that opened to great fanfare in Los Angeles in 2017 and bills itself as the “most Instagrammable pop-up in America.” When it opened, people were thrilled to fork over the nearly $30 admission price ($199 for a VIP pass). But when it arrived in Boston this month, it landed with a thud. “I would not go,” said Claire, the 15-year-old. “I’d rather take pics in front of a library or something.”"
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 26, 2019 14:47:05 GMT
sleepingbooty - here's a question for you - I love that you're an "insider" on this stuff: When counting "engagement" I know that likes, followers and comments are big metrics. But on comments, don't a lot of wanna-be influencers goose their comment counts by commenting on every comment themselves - usually w/an inane "true" or something like that comment. Seems like a way to inflate one of the engagement metrics artificially. Is that a fair assessment? Or do the engagement monitoring sites have a way to "throw out" those comments from the account owner to get a better representation of true engagement? Ah, engagement rate calculations, thing of the devil! ERs are not easy to calculate and despite all the online tools telling you they have THE way, the fool-proof method, yada yada yada, there isn't one. Trust me, I've tried to to find one I could stick with and be happy with but it just isn't that simple. Professionals who work meticulously and on a one-account-at-a-time basis don't use those basic free tools nor do they rely on one to come up with their final assessment. That's the secret. But yes, we exclude the comments coming from the mother account and its associated support accounts (e.g.: for pure ER calculation for, say, @kellypurkeyshop, I would exclude at the very least @kellypurkeyshop,(at)kellypurkey, (at)babz510 and the current CT members - which can make things complicated for accounts that switch out CT members frequently like @everydayexplorersco has started doing recently). I don't want to get into the specifics but it's a bit of a detective job at times with (potential) clients fattening up their numbers by having several commenters come play up the hype regularly without disclosing this to those they're trying to work/working with. ERs are calculated either as a general measure for an account (broad) or for a particular post or type of post (this is where stuff gets interesting because you can start contrasting engagement for, say, sponsored posts/ads against engagement for other posts or figure out which posts are getting the most engagement before you start pairing up with sponsors to make the most out of your potential revenue). Have to say though, that first IG in the article (Emma) is just as bad or worse than the 30-49ish overblown crowd. Just selling her body image in a different way. Gross. Emma Chamberlain is often referred to as one of the more controversial Gen Z influencers (I don't really agree based on the lack of actual scandals but that's another discussion up for debate). She's still breaking the mould of the depiction of a perfect life although, as you can see, she's also more curated than some other Gen Z influencers mentioned in the Atlantic article. But she's definitely far more sexually expressive. Her sense of humour is on point though which is what made her big with her peers. Her total ER (non-specific for type of posts) is crazy high (it used to be around 20-25% but she's lost a bit of appeal since the start of the year) and a slap in the face of those most people think are the engagement queens like the Kardashian sisters. Gen Z is coming of age which comes with finding one's sexual identity (Emma Chamberlain is 18). I have no problems with this and, again, it was definitely part of the Tumblr blogs they grew up on. The question really remains how they will transition into adulthood. This is what's fascinating to look at from the other side: they are still babies but they're also already cynical and aware of how limiting social media platforms are when it comes to living life and finding happiness.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 26, 2019 15:03:16 GMT
Holy cow - fell down the rabbit hole of ring lights If you watch YT videos, you've probably spotted the actual ring of light you can see reflected in the pupils. It was a hot topic several years back when a lot of makeup YouTubers switched to them (and everyone was wondering how much this influenced the actual result of the tutorial or test that was being carried out). Softbox is the new lighting standard for makeup videos as it's less harsh but it requires more knowledge about lighting to use correctly. Some combine both. Status: it's complicated.
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Post by joblackford on Apr 26, 2019 17:47:46 GMT
I follow you on IG. Is your feed about to get more real and messy? Oh man, I'm working on it. Two selfies in a row and one was me sitting in an Amazon box? That was for you, my friend!
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Post by joblackford on Apr 26, 2019 17:57:06 GMT
I understand some people won't get it but it's not stupid. She's sharing tidbits of her real, unfiltered and without following the typical pattern of those using social media to sell stuff to their followers, which is extremely appealing and refreshing to her generational peers who were born and raised with social media access and tech, and are already suffering from fatigue and stress due to the constant display of perfection and competitive nature of online existence. On the surface, it looks silly and nonsensical but it's very much down to earth and real while trying to keep it light. Like teenagers and young adults behave and communicate daily. It makes sense. Re Joana C - This is one of those things where I accept that this girl's account is not speaking to me because it's not *for* me, and that's totally cool. I don't get it, any more than she probably gets my account. I don't get it in the same way I didn't get how young people used Snapchat to communicate with their friends. Or how they talk to their friends generally! I have accepted that I don't get "kids these days" lol
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Post by joblackford on Apr 26, 2019 18:00:42 GMT
Holy cow - fell down the rabbit hole of ring lights I saw a young woman at Tokyo Disney with a small ring light for her phone selfie camera.
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