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Post by miss2peas on Jun 14, 2019 16:27:43 GMT
I wanted to get the perspective of fellow scrappers on the subject of hail video people on YouTube. I am in no way saying what they are doing is wrong by any means because I think you should do what you like as far as spending as long as you can afford to. However, I follow quite a few people that post haul videos especially from Tuesday Morning. I have to admit I have been buying more than normal for myself because the finds have been so good. These ladies are constantly buying, I mean they post every few days with tons and tons of new things. There is one in particular that buys multiple of things, always has a reason why is bought this or that(I collect this, I love these, I’m going to make this, I going to use it like this etc etc etc). I myself could never use all I buy and it is a very small fraction what they buy. Do you think they are buying to buy and do you think they will ever realize they aren’t using the stuff and it’s just sitting? Any other thoughts?
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Post by amom23 on Jun 14, 2019 16:41:08 GMT
I think crafters over shop like most people. Why are there so many hoarder TV shows? Because people buy too much crap they don't need. Entertainment shopping can be really hard to overcome, but it feels so good once you finally break that endless gotta buy something cycle.
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Post by cbet on Jun 14, 2019 16:42:43 GMT
Ok, I don't post videos, but here are my thoughts: I had to cut down on my visits to Michaels, Hobby Lobby and Joann because of that exact problem. I want everything and I get a rush from knowing I got a good deal. That doesn't equate to using it and it takes up a lot of space! Last summer, I did a deep clean of my craft room (which, frankly, was so full of STUFF that I couldn't use it for anything but storage) and got rid of a ton of stuff. Some just went to goodwill, some went to the third-grade teacher my mother works with, some went to my sister-in-law for the daycare she worked at. To tell the truth, I didn't get rid of nearly as much as I should have, and the room is starting to get a bit cramped again. So yes, I think they probably are just buying to buy, and they might eventually realize they aren't using the stuff, but as long as it's not hurting anyone else, it's their business. They also probably are buying partly to show it on their videos, especially if they make any money from ads etc.
And knowing that I need to watch myself, I still went a bit crazy at Hobby Lobby yesterday when I happened upon a most excellent selection of clearance items in their art supplies area. $10 pads of watercolor paper for $2.50? $20 brayer for $4.50? Yes, thank you! Although I did really work at holding myself back and purchasing only items that I genuinely felt I would use soon.
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Post by christinec68 on Jun 14, 2019 16:44:17 GMT
These scrappers could be very prolific, have a paper based business, like to have lots of options, share their supplies a lot or like looking at pretty things in their scrap space. I think it's easy to get caught up in good deals, getting new lines when they are released bc they seem to be more difficult to get after a short time or just straight up FOMO because we see all these supplies turned into beautiful projects and they want to make the same thing.
I used to shop without thinking about what I would really use and I ended up with a ton of supplies I couldn't possibly use in a lifetime, most of which were given away or donated.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 17:34:33 GMT
I only follow a few scrapbookers/paper crafters and they all do haul videos. They also use pretty much all of the items bought.
3 of them are friends and do pizza boxes, wands, flip books, pocket pages, ect. So they use what they buy and also gift some items to who is in their group.
There was one youtuber I no longer watch who constantly bought and never really used anything. It was crazy to see stuff all over the place while she showed off more.
Not my cup if tea BUT I do love the others I watch. NurseTara04 is one I really enjoy. Her tutorials are great!
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 14, 2019 17:41:00 GMT
I watch a bunch of these to help me decide if I really want something. I have noticed that some of the ladies now just go to the store to a film there. I do wonder if they are allowed to do it before the store opens because oftentimes there is no music or other shoppers passing by. There is no way I could edit out the craft shoppers at my stores. There are always people in the aisles and they are not quiet.
Some weeks I buy enough to have a haul and some weeks I get nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 18:00:44 GMT
I think they resell some. I know there was a lady at my TM loading up on the character dies and I am sure she was going to resell them.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jun 14, 2019 19:03:03 GMT
I shop at TM a lot. I can spend anywhere from $5 to $100 a week there...but I try and reign it in so I'm not buying like crazy and that means NOT watching YT hauls (I get my heads up about certain things from IG...where someone's vocal excitement about a product is inaccessible...I'm guilty of buying things because other people's excitement rubs off on me and IG is my way of finding balance between wanting to be in the know but not wanting to feel compelled to buy things because excitement is contagious). Shopping is sort of its own thing for me (its own distinct hobby, essentially) and I think one of the things that really fuels the shopping is that we see so many things and get wonderful ideas about how to use it...while many scrappers are quite prolific, a good many suffer from 'so many ideas, not enough time'. I try not to judge too harshly, but I do find amusement in those that are on the same path I used to be on. Don't get me wrong, I still shop a lot and will buy multiples of things I REALLY love, but I can leave behind stuff that I wouldn't have been able to a few years ago. Some people will buy 2 or 3 of everything and then 6-12 months down the line, they're purging because they can't find places to put everything or use it fast enough.
I get asked if I sell stuff from TM staff here and there. It happened from all of the creative ones at one store this week (there is one of my 4 stores that staffs 3 crafters) and I couldn't tell if they were curious about my intentions for the product (reselling) or if they were trying to wrap their heads around my consistent shopping habits (I'm at TM every week and have been a regular for years because I like to have as close to first dibs as possible and my current point in life affords me that opportunity). I answer honestly, but who knows if they believe me or not. Most of the stuff is a good price, but not low enough that there is much to be gained from reselling unless it is a highly sought after item that is hard to find at retail pricing and people are willing to pay that. I'm not going to scour stores for $1 profit on an item and I doubt with the pricing increases that there is even much room to make money on most merchandise anyway.
There was once a time where I could buy whatever I wanted and fit it in my space easily...now my room is essentially full and I have to get rid of stuff to make room for new things or become even more creative with my organizing (which I honestly don't mind...I love to organize, too). Thankfully, my shopping habits aren't so out of control that I'm purging recent purchases. Most of the stuff I'm getting rid of is several years old (or pieces of kits that I never liked and just didn't get around to getting rid of when I first bought it).
If anything, rather than judging how others choose to spend their money, I use it to help me feel better about my own spending. As easy as it is to buy more than I can use (which I still do, just not nearly as bad as I used to), it is also easy to feel guilty about it. Knowing that other people have the bug worse than I do now makes me feel a lot better, so I'm grateful that I have people to look at and say 'at least I shop less than that', lol.
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Post by Elsabelle on Jun 14, 2019 19:24:02 GMT
I've seen some YouTubers who regularly post haul videos that seem a little bit impossible for all of it to be used. Some give off a bit of a hoarder's vibe. But it's not my money or credit card so I really don't care. And I don't know what their discretionary income situation is and it's not my business, of course. I go to TM often but rarely spend over $20. I just don't find enough stuff that I want to take home. I'm pickier now than I used to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 19:39:21 GMT
I'm grateful that I have people to look at and say 'at least I shop less than that', lol. True that! In fact, I hope that someone buys up all the merch from my TM that has been hanging around for weeks and weeks so they get some new stuff, lol! |
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Post by Elsabelle on Jun 14, 2019 20:14:53 GMT
I'm grateful that I have people to look at and say 'at least I shop less than that', lol. True that! In fact, I hope that someone buys up all the merch from my TM that has been hanging around for weeks and weeks so they get some new stuff, lol! Stuff isn't moving fast enough at my TM either.  |
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Post by Tammiem2pnc1 on Jun 14, 2019 23:27:27 GMT
I don't really watch haul videos. For some reason I find them kind of annoying. I will say this, I never ever go into any craft store, especially TM without a budget. It makes me really think about my purchases and I get what I really want and know I will use. And honestly I will not buy something just because it's a good price, I must have a purpose for it. This keeps my stash under control. I will admit I am a bit of a paper hoarder, so I have put myself on a paper buying freeze. I really do not need anymore.
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Post by miss2peas on Jun 15, 2019 2:51:35 GMT
Thank you ladies, you all have valid points. I appreciate the in site you are offering.
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Post by msliz on Jun 15, 2019 3:36:02 GMT
I don't usually watch the haul videos that are completely random stuff, like from a trip to TM, but I do like unboxing videos when someone has ordered everything from a new line that I'm interested in. I like seeing all the pieces all together, getting the close-ups on the papers and embellishments, and hearing their opinions on the quality of the stuff and what their plan is for how to use it.
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Post by joblackford on Jun 15, 2019 4:07:39 GMT
I personally avoid watching hauls because I don't need the encouragement to want more stuff and I'm just generally not a fan of the consumerism they promote.
I came across an article recently that put a different spin on the phenomenon. I can't remember where I saw it, and it wasn't specifically about craft hauls. But it referred to how some retailers are changing their returns policies in response to the kind of shopping haul shoppers were doing. I guess some (certainly not all, and maybe just in certain circles) haulers buy up tons of stuff to promote on their channels and then return it all and buy more.
I'm guessing that's probably more common at higher ends stores, maybe fashion hauls. I'm not sure. I suspect most craft haulers are stockpiling supplies with potential, because that's how we tend to think ("I could make x y z with that!") or collecting to enjoy how stuff looks rather than just shopping and returning to create a popular channel they can monetize.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jun 15, 2019 4:47:43 GMT
I personally avoid watching hauls because I don't need the encouragement to want more stuff and I'm just generally not a fan of the consumerism they promote. I came across an article recently that put a different spin on the phenomenon. I can't remember where I saw it, and it wasn't specifically about craft hauls. But it referred to how some retailers are changing their returns policies in response to the kind of shopping haul shoppers were doing. I guess some (certainly not all, and maybe just in certain circles) haulers buy up tons of stuff to promote on their channels and then return it all and buy more. I'm guessing that's probably more common at higher ends stores, maybe fashion hauls. I'm not sure. I suspect most craft haulers are stockpiling supplies with potential, because that's how we tend to think ("I could make x y z with that!") or collecting to enjoy how stuff looks rather than just shopping and returning to create a popular channel they can monetize. Almost all stores have limits on no receipt returns (which is why they ask for your ID to keep track of your no receipt returns) and many more have with receipt return limits. Most are pretty generous with what they'll allow you to return (the husband was disgusted to see someone returning a bottle of juice with a single sip in it saying it was gross at Walmart and the employee had to process the return because it's their policy) but even with receipts some will put a limit on it.
Costco has one of the most generous out there (I returned a Christmas tree that didn't even last me 2 Christmases and immediately bought a new one...only because the manufacturer I contacted to send replacement parts said in OCTOBER they could not guarantee me the right parts until AFTER Christmas which was not acceptable to me for a $300 tree and yes...I put my tree up in October) and while they will not refuse refunds, if you abuse their policy, they'll cancel and refund you the cost of your membership and apologize for not being a satisfactory business for you (which I totally read with snark when I saw an article about them doing that to someone, lol). I say good for them on that front!
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Post by marg on Jun 16, 2019 12:15:00 GMT
I don't usually watch the haul videos that are completely random stuff, like from a trip to TM, but I do like unboxing videos when someone has ordered everything from a new line that I'm interested in. I like seeing all the pieces all together, getting the close-ups on the papers and embellishments, and hearing their opinions on the quality of the stuff and what their plan is for how to use it. I'm the same. I find haul videos very handy for deciding if I want to buy something or not specific, so I will search for haul videos only for the particular line of paper or stamp set I am interested in, and use that to make my decision. It has helped me to decide against stuff because it wasn't what I originally thought, so it definitely works both ways for me. |
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Post by jacquelinescraps on Jun 16, 2019 18:16:26 GMT
I got tired of watching them. Would be cool to see like a portion of a video showcasing a haul and the the rest using the product.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 16, 2019 22:57:30 GMT
I enjoy unboxing videos but not hauls. Hauls make me uncomfortable. Especially when you can see parts of their scrap room and it's full to the gills with stuff. The puritan in my head is appalled at the conspicuous consumption.
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Post by mamagidget on Jun 16, 2019 23:13:39 GMT
Like many have mentioned, I stay away from haul videos, unless I am looking for one that shows a particular line or product I want to "see" before I buy. Haul videos seriously give me anxiety (how are they going to use all of that, where are they going to store it?!), and I would rather watch process videos. They also give me FOMO, and I have plenty I HAVEN'T missed out on, lol. 😳☺
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jun 17, 2019 0:39:17 GMT
The irony is that I have a friend who youtubes and she has made an effort to showcase more projects (her software is having issues, so she can't do voice overs...so no scrapbooking processes right now) and in spite of the declarations that people want to see more projects than hauls, her haul videos are what drive the majority of the traffic to her channel. Her projects don't get nearly as many views and take significantly more time to produce.
So...I guess you gotta take that into perspective. What people are saying they want and what people are actually viewing could very well be quite different. The only videos recently that have given her more views than hauls have been the throwback videos she's done as she's going through older product and deciding if she needs to pass it on to kids of her relatives or find a place for it with her newer products so it will get used up. So hauls and nostalgia are apparently the biggest forces for her.
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Post by miss2peas on Jun 17, 2019 0:55:35 GMT
Like many have mentioned, I stay away from haul videos, unless I am looking for one that shows a particular line or product I want to "see" before I buy. Haul videos seriously give me anxiety (how are they going to use all of that, where are they going to store it?!), and I would rather watch process videos. They also give me FOMO, and I have plenty I HAVEN'T missed out on, lol. 😳☺ This is exactly what I am thinking during most of the time I spend watching, them. I am also thinking if they themself believe the stuff they are saying about how they are going to use this or that. |
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Post by miss2peas on Jun 17, 2019 0:57:42 GMT
The irony is that I have a friend who youtubes and she has made an effort to showcase more projects (her software is having issues, so she can't do voice overs...so no scrapbooking processes right now) and in spite of the declarations that people want to see more projects than hauls, her haul videos are what drive the majority of the traffic to her channel. Her projects don't get nearly as many views and take significantly more time to produce. So...I guess you gotta take that into perspective. What people are saying they want and what people are actually viewing could very well be quite different. The only videos recently that have given her more views than hauls have been the throwback videos she's done as she's going through older product and deciding if she needs to pass it on to kids of her relatives or find a place for it with her newer products so it will get used up. So hauls and nostalgia are apparently the biggest forces for her. Yep, I can totally believe this, most of the if I post a picture of some new goodies on Instagram it gets a lot of like. So this very thing has crossed my mind in the past. |
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Post by tripletmom on Jun 17, 2019 0:57:44 GMT
The irony is that I have a friend who youtubes and she has made an effort to showcase more projects (her software is having issues, so she can't do voice overs...so no scrapbooking processes right now) and in spite of the declarations that people want to see more projects than hauls, her haul videos are what drive the majority of the traffic to her channel. Her projects don't get nearly as many views and take significantly more time to produce. So...I guess you gotta take that into perspective. What people are saying they want and what people are actually viewing could very well be quite different. The only videos recently that have given her more views than hauls have been the throwback videos she's done as she's going through older product and deciding if she needs to pass it on to kids of her relatives or find a place for it with her newer products so it will get used up. So hauls and nostalgia are apparently the biggest forces for her. What’s her channel? |
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jun 17, 2019 1:12:33 GMT
The irony is that I have a friend who youtubes and she has made an effort to showcase more projects (her software is having issues, so she can't do voice overs...so no scrapbooking processes right now) and in spite of the declarations that people want to see more projects than hauls, her haul videos are what drive the majority of the traffic to her channel. Her projects don't get nearly as many views and take significantly more time to produce. So...I guess you gotta take that into perspective. What people are saying they want and what people are actually viewing could very well be quite different. The only videos recently that have given her more views than hauls have been the throwback videos she's done as she's going through older product and deciding if she needs to pass it on to kids of her relatives or find a place for it with her newer products so it will get used up. So hauls and nostalgia are apparently the biggest forces for her. What’s her channel? OhDonna |
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Post by Embri on Jun 17, 2019 1:16:28 GMT
Part of that may be that it's easier to watch multiple haul videos - they're like snacks, you can scarf down a whole playlist of them at once. Techniques or tutorials are more like main courses; takes time to digest the information if you're going to actually retain it.
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Post by mrssch on Jun 17, 2019 1:57:37 GMT
I have no judgement for those who share haul videos. I sometimes watch to see if there set new items I might need or want. Other times, I don’t watch because I don’t need the temptation. Either way, I don’t concern myself with whether or not they use their items; or if they resell them. It’s not my business.
People purchase or over-purchase for lots of reasons. They may be sad or grieving running a business or just splurging. Making assumptions about strangers’ habits is non-productive.
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Post by jacquelinescraps on Jun 18, 2019 5:07:00 GMT
The irony is that I have a friend who youtubes and she has made an effort to showcase more projects (her software is having issues, so she can't do voice overs...so no scrapbooking processes right now) and in spite of the declarations that people want to see more projects than hauls, her haul videos are what drive the majority of the traffic to her channel. Her projects don't get nearly as many views and take significantly more time to produce. So...I guess you gotta take that into perspective. What people are saying they want and what people are actually viewing could very well be quite different. The only videos recently that have given her more views than hauls have been the throwback videos she's done as she's going through older product and deciding if she needs to pass it on to kids of her relatives or find a place for it with her newer products so it will get used up. So hauls and nostalgia are apparently the biggest forces for her. I LOVE her throw back videos and am waiting to see her show her old scrapbook layouts  |
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Post by pas2 on Jun 18, 2019 10:08:32 GMT
I love to watch the new at TM videos on fast forward and on mute. I just want to know what products might be coming to my store since we are always a week or two behind the west coast stores. I particularly love videos that provide a look at the product codes. I screen shot them,then make my shopping wish list. The videos of the person browsing the store is particularly helpful because I can see what else is hanging on the racks that the hauler might not be showcasing but I might be interested in. It’s like a virtual catalog.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 18, 2019 17:52:21 GMT
I have no judgement for those who share haul videos. I sometimes watch to see if there set new items I might need or want. Other times, I don’t watch because I don’t need the temptation. Either way, I don’t concern myself with whether or not they use their items; or if they resell them. It’s not my business. People purchase or over-purchase for lots of reasons. They may be sad or grieving running a business or just splurging. Making assumptions about strangers’ habits is non-productive. We all make assumptions about what is being offered for consumption, be it haul videos, influencer posts or commercials. Of course I don’t know why they are purchasing like they are. I’m uncomfortable with the process so I choose not to watch. Doesn’t prevent me from having an opinion on the process. |
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